Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

17 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Its actually interesting to go back to page one of this thread and see who predicted what.  I was trying to hold out hope that Trump would rise to the occasion.  Others called it more accurately.   Some of the Trump supporters have given up but its wild to see some still doubling down.  

I think they are less trump supporters, more "**** the Dems and all progressives at any cost" supporters- even if it's a vile, orange hued, malignant narcissist...  

2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

I think they are less trump supporters, more "**** the Dems and all progressives at any cost" supporters- even if it's a vile, orange hued, malignant narcissist...  

Yeah true but thats really a cover.  Not many people would say, "I hate the KKK but man, their economic policies are pretty good."  

23 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

I started following it more closely early on as trump just kept saying and doing stupid things and it was funny and I figured it'd be an easy case of them tossing him out, but now it's just more sad than funny as the lunatic is going about destabilizing the world and just generally doing the worst possible thing in every scenario. 

What's insane is that this twitterer/curator of news/author Seth Abramson wrote a couple of books on the why and the how- most of it eerily accurate, yet gets very little coverage and seems to be locked out of the main stream... 

Sorry to interrupt your McD's cadet bonespurs but your genius is needed in the situation room.

Too busy to make a statement about an attack 

 

Don’t worry, Hannity will fix that 

The war hawks are soooo happy tonight 

What are the odds trump calls it even?

 

Edited January 8, 20206 yr by The Unknown Poster

Now that Iran is finished with their rocket hissy fit Trump should dial it back and take the win. Too bad he's surrounded by warmongers and AIPAC who won't let him.

how to find peace immediately:

Give Hannity and Graham a rifle, and send them to the nearest combat zone fighing ISIS in Syria.

edit:

"Aipac made Trump do it."

More penetrating analysis from the bitter Mr.  "thousands of illegal voters".

 

 

Edited January 8, 20206 yr by Mark F

Connect the dots 

 

They may be terrorists, but they're our terrorists!  And they paid me! Lots!

 

also worth pointing out, not just Rudy.

 

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a large group of prominent former US government officials from both political parties has spent the last several years receiving substantial sums of cash to give speeches to the MEK, and have then become vocal, relentless advocates for the group, specifically for removing them from the terrorist list. Last year, the Christian Science Monitor thoroughly described "these former high-ranking US officials - who represent the full political spectrum - [who] have been paid tens of thousands of dollars to speak in support of the MEK." They include Democrats Howard Dean, Ed Rendell, Wesley Clark, Bill Richardson, and Lee Hamilton, and Republicans Rudy Giuliani, Fran Townsend, Tom Ridge, Michael Mukasey, and Andrew Card. Other prominent voices outside government, such as Alan Dershowitz and Elie Wiesel, have been enlisted to the cause and are steadfast MEK advocates.

Money has also been paid to journalists such as The Washington Post's Carl Bernstein and the Chicago Tribune's Clarence Page. Townsend is a CNN contributor and Rendell is an MSNBC contributor

 

 

Edited January 8, 20206 yr by Mark F

Why does trump have generals lined up behind him during this address?

Three shades of a dictator's address on state television... Kim Jun Un- I'm looking at you!

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

how to find peace immediately:

Give Hannity and Graham a rifle, and send them to the nearest combat zone fighing ISIS in Syria.

edit:

"Aipac made Trump do it."

More penetrating analysis from the bitter Mr.  "thousands of illegal voters".

 

 

You seriously trying to say Israel doesn't have powerful , linfluential lobbies in Washington ? My gawd you're not informed at all.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Connect the dots 

 

Now do John Kerry, Noah.

Just now, Zontar said:

Now do John Kerry, Noah.

Sure, is John Kerry the President?  Or the Presidents lawyer?  Or operating a shadow State Department?  Or caught up in investigations of fraud?  And who's Noah?

Its getting laughable at this point, pal.

9 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Sure, is John Kerry the President?  Or the Presidents lawyer?  Or operating a shadow State Department?  Or caught up in investigations of fraud?  And who's Noah?

Its getting laughable at this point, pal.

What's laughable is "progressives" trying to distill the recent events down to more Orange Man Bad and score cheap partisan points .

Last few days have been yet another example of the corrupt rotten foreign policy of US, ISrael, Saudi Arabia that BOTH Republicans and Democrats have willingly advanced no matter the cost for 70 odd years .

If progressives are really upset how the possibility of war they have to get serious and widen their curiosity over why the system is the way it is.

Be better, be smarter. We all have a stake in this. 

Just now, Zontar said:

What's laughable is "progressives" trying to distill the recent events down to more Orange Man Bad and score cheap partisan points .

Last few days have been yet another example of the corrupt rotten foreign policy of US, ISrael, Saudi Arabia that BOTH Republicans and Democrats have willingly advanced no matter the cost for 70 odd years .

If progressives are really upset how the possibility of war they have to get serious and widen their curiosity over why the system is the way it is.

Be better, be smarter. We all have a stake in this. 

You cant really spend your time in this thread flag waving for Trump and ask others to be smarter.  Trump handled this like the moron he is and made Iran look positively statesmanlike.  Maybe you try being a bit more progressive.  Its not a bad word, certainly compared to alt-right anyway.

The justification was impeachment.  
 

 

Trump's sniffles were out of control at his presser today

 

Edited January 8, 20206 yr by bustamente

First time in decades that I can recall a country like Iran bombing a US military installation, and no response from America.

The only explanation that makes sense to me, is Putin told Trump to back off. He's the only person Trump listens to and obeys.

 

Edited January 8, 20206 yr by Mark F

37 minutes ago, Mark F said:

First time in decades that I can recall a country like Iran bombing a US military installation, and no response from America.

The only explanation that makes sense to me, is Putin told Trump to back off. He's the only person Trump listens to and obeys.

 

I think Putin would love open warfare.   Oil prices would go up.  Russian arms sales would go up.  Russian influence would go up.  
 

I think it’s more likely trumps embarrassing rhetoric the last few days got a ton of behind the scenes push back from advisors, Congress and allies. And he was desperate for a way out. 

 

 

Edited January 9, 20206 yr by The Unknown Poster

Okay this confirms it.  Graham is totally compromised.   The same speech everyone is openly wondering if trump was sedated or on drugs?  When he sniffles throughout, could speak clearly and mispronounced several words?   What a joke. 
 

 

23 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

You cant really spend your time in this thread flag waving for Trump and ask others to be smarter.  Trump handled this like the moron he is and made Iran look positively statesmanlike.  Maybe you try being a bit more progressive.  Its not a bad word, certainly compared to alt-right anyway.

Flag waving.? Do you actually read what I post ?

17 hours ago, Mark F said:

First time in decades that I can recall a country like Iran bombing a US military installation, and no response from America.

The only explanation that makes sense to me, is Putin told Trump to back off. He's the only person Trump listens to and obeys.

 

Then you would be wailing about Trump escalating things.

When Iran took US sailors hostage OBama did nothing. Stop pretending strange foreign policy decisions began with Trump .

Edited January 9, 20206 yr by Zontar