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Discipline tho has been a problem all year and it falls on the coaches. Myers needs to be benched next game

Refs didn't cost the jets the game but that penalty on wheels was crap.

Rams and Chargers to LA they say. Oakland staying in Oakland

That 19 year old Danish guy is the best Jet so far by far. Kids having a game. Keeps getting better every game.

BTW TUP... Flair never defended the title in the Rumble. He won it. It was vacant. Sometimes your WWE agenda shows.

No to Higgins. Just a shell if his former self. Hell no to ehlers for Drouin. Little known fact... Allan Walsh is Drouins agent... same guy Frolik had and pav has. Pain in the ass. Not sure what some expected From a 19 yr old. He's playing just fine. If he wasn't jets would have let him play for Denmark at the junior tourney. Ehlers is gaining so much playing against men and will be better for it next year. Drouin has really proven nothing and I doubt Tampa gets what they want in return for him.

Ask Oiler fans or Leaf Fans or Panthers FAN (yup) how they feel about their teams and what they have done the last 5 6 7 10 years in some cases, It takes time... ask Blackhawk fans what it was like b4 Kane and Toews showed up, It takes time.... I think last year was a fluke and i think fans expectations were raised for some reason because of it. This team isn't gonna compete just yet but when they are ready, just like Florida appears to be ready right now (it took many years of sucking to get there tho first), They will be good. What do people want? A team that makes the playoffs only to be swept or lose in the first round? Or a team that makes the playoffs year in year out and actually has a chance to win it all, Cuz if you want the chance to win it all, It takes time to build your team to get to that point. Like i said, Ask Chicago, Ask Edmonton, Flordia, NYI for that matter, Washington for that matter also, Hell Pittsburgh even. It doesn't happen over night or in 2 or 3 years, face it 2011 was a wash, and to an extent so was 2013 because it was a lockout shortened season. Last year was fun but it was probably the worst thing to happen to the Jets organization so far because it gave the fans this false sense that this team was actually good enough to compete. What do you need to be competitive tho.. A franchise Goalie (Helle looks like he is the guy), A Franchise d man (Trouba??), and a Franchise Center man (Scheif??) but ideally Mathews Little is good but he's not an elite #1 center... Scheif might not be that #1 center either but.... at worst he's a above average number 2 guy.

Opinion because for some reason because Drouin was a top 3 pick, apparently that means his value is higher even tho he's basically done nothing except asked to be traded. His value is lower because of that. Yzerman has said that he wants a young player in return, similar to Drouin, aka a guy making not a ton of money cuz Tampa has no cap space right now. The name Fabbri from St Louis was thrown out there, Fabbri, Petan... what's the difference really. Both are prospects just like Drouin still is. I don't think I'd add De Leo, I think De Leo is a guy who they could call up shortly to the main roster. Petan won't be, he was healthy scratched with Kostalek for being late to a practice. And quite frankly, I don't think Tampa does it because they don't have the cap space for both Petan and De Leo right now.

You can't lose to the bottom feeders like Buffalo Edmonton Colorado even (who are above us but still a bottom feeder) and expect to make the play-offs. Especially in the Ultra competitive Central division. Jets play-off hopes are pretty much on life support at the moment. That's fine with me. Didn't think this team was good enough to do some damage anyways, getting swept last year should have shown management that the core isn't good enough and changes need to be made. As for this talk of firing Chevy, He has said all along that this is a draft and develop team, His draft picks have all worked out, Scheif is a stud, Trouba is solid, Helle will be a franchise goalie, Ehlers is 19 years old and when paired with Perreault and Scheif looks like he belongs, Lowry had a rough start but has come around recently and still projects to be that 3rd line shut down center type. Copp has done a damn good job on the 4th line this year. These are all players the Jets have drafted. Trades? Myers has been good, Stafford might be our best goal scorer, Perreault was probably the best signing a GM has made in the last several years, what a bargain at 3 million a year. The Jets are on the right track and as much as it frustrates me to no end watching them play this year, I half expected them to struggle. I think management and that doesn't include just Chevy but all of them, needs to pick a direction to go in right now. Trade Ladd,Buff, etc and go with the youth and the draft and develop model that is so far working quite nicely or.... sign them and trade prospects and picks for established NHL players and try to win with this core, however after 5 years now and probably only 1 playoff appearance, i think it's time to change things up and I think management does also. You can't fire a guy because your expectations for the team are ridiculously high, this is a bubble team at best currently, they are good enough to not be a bottom 3 team (or are they?) but not good enough to consistently compete. It takes time to actually build a winner, People can talk about Dallas and all that but Dallas is not Winnipeg and it's easier for a team and city like Dallas to attract players than it is for us too. That's reality. People think we could sign this guy that guy and the other guy and whoever else but reality is... we can't. WE ARE WINNIPEG. Along with Edmonton and some other places we are the destination that players do not want to sign with, why? Because it's cold, because it's small, because it's "crappy". That's the reality, it's a fish bowl, players don't like that, unless you are gonna massively over pay for them and no thanks. This team when ready to compete will be competing with Scheif,Trouba,Morrissey,Ehlers,Connor,Helle,Roslovic, etc...Mathews lol, those are the guys that we will be competitive with. We are in the central, this team currently with it's core is not good enough to compete with Dallas,Chicago,St Louis, Nashville even (unless our goalie stands on his head). Fire Chevy? Nope, he's done a good job. He's let core get a chance to prove that they can get the job done, this year, they haven't and have regressed big time, outside of Wheeler really. Fire Chevy? Only if he decides to sign ladd and buff to long term big money deals but i doubt that happens. There is no quick fix and i feel some people expected that, But in reality, in order to be good, you have to be bad first pretty much. Guess what, we aren't even that bad yet, we are a .500 team, definition of a middle of the pack team, not bad enough to get a high draft pick but not good enough to make the playoffs consistently. Time for change and i'm pretty sure the people with the power realize it too. Otherwise Ladd and Buff would be signed by now, you wouldn't hear of Toby Enstrom being shopped rumors. The people in charge have more knowledge than all of us combined and i think it's about time some actually admitted it. It is what it is. We are fans, they are the people in charge. Fire Chevy? Why and hire who? and how is this new guy gonna make things better? Draft and Develop is the name of the game in Winnipeg and it's time to accept it. It takes time to build via draft and develop but the pieces are there and coming, it just takes time... You can say that the current core is just there so the guys they do draft and develop can take over one day. That's what this is all about, The current core are just place holders until the drafted and developed guys are ready. And they will be ready soon, it just takes time. The lack of patience shown by some is just crazy actually.... Realize a couple things and then step back. 1. WE ARE WINNIPEG - <--- that is a major one. Realize what that means 2. We are a draft and develop team <--- goes hand in hand with #1 because big name FA'S won't ever sign here, EVER.

Yeah, he does but he won't. That's not the type of player he is.

LOl i was there too, in the end zone, definitely never dressed for it... was freezing and by the time the 4th rolled around, i spent most of it in the concourse not freezing to death, still freezing lol but out of the wind at least. Good game tho, do remember being in my seat when Westwood kicked the FG to win the game. (that was the 2011 one right? if not, that's the one i'm talking about, vs Montreal with no AC)

Well, the trade route is always there as is playing Internationals on the line.

About Ladd, I think he's fighting an injury still, he has to be. He's looked so bad that it has to be something. He's not fully recovered from his off-season sports hernia surgery or he has another injury that he playing through. I hope so at least, it's either that or his GAD level is ultra low and he's wanting to be traded cuz no way is the guy on the ice this year worth even close to 6 million a year for 6 years. Honestly, I'm not sure if he would even get that as a UFA seeing as how poorly he has played and how, well, his effort level just seems to be non existent most nights. Is he pouting cuz he hasn't been signed? I hope not, he's a pro and the captain. There has got to be something else going on there, for Ladds sake, i hope it's an injury cuz if it's not and he's just regressed that much in less than a year, not good. He looks almost done most nights. Ladd is seriously making a strong case as to why the NHL's contracts shouldn't be guaranteed, getting paid 4 million plus this year and is awful. Not worth it. Wonder how good hockey would be if these contracts these guys signed weren't guaranteed.

First Lemmy, Now Bowie... Just terrible.

Being a former goalie myself, I played AAA and i even played a couple years in the MJHL... Confidence does play somewhat of an issue. I'm not sure exactly how much but... It does play a role, I do think when NHL players say it, It's kind of cliche cuz i mean, just look at your bank account and that should fix your confidence issues but... it does play a role, I personally think it's minor however i will say that if something bad happened, for example, when i was playing for the Sharks (AAA), my grandfather passed away, was the first real time i had to deal with death, outside of a family pet dying and no doubt, it definitely made playing hockey a little more difficult. I remember that pretty well, my grandfather died and 2 days later i played a game, thinking, hey, what better way to get my mind off of this then to play.. Coaches said, you know, you don't have to play right, and i was like but i want 2. Well, i had a pretty crappy game, we lost 4 2 that game, i wouldn't say it was awful but...my head was definitely somewhere else and in hindsight, i probably should have told the coach that i couldn't play. Not sure that's a confidence issue tho as much as it's just dealing with a personal matter. We really have no idea what any of these players deal with in their lives on a daily basis, illness, injury, death... who knows. Maybe Hutch is dealing with an injury or personal matter or who really knows. Confidence? Not sure that's it cuz the guy has played relatively well most games, i guess just at times, the team in front of him folds faster than superman on laundry day and as a goalie, if your team is not strong mentally ( and i feel that the Jets aren't that strong mentally), as a goalie, it does affect you because, you are always thinking to yourself, i can't let in more than 1 or 2 goals a game other we will lose for sure. That does start to get to you a bit.

Try 5 or 6 pieces. Do we have a top line lw? Left handed D? Bottom 6 ? Jets aren't contenders so I'm hoping for a top 3 preferably top pick in the draft

Jets lack the top end talent. Outside of Wheeler who is more of a set up guy than goal scorer... they just don't have the talent right now

Hutch was never great. He had a good stretch of games but since the all star break last year.... he's been terrible. With that being said I think he still has potential to be a good or better than pavelec nhl goalie. Plus he's younger and is paid less than pav. I don't think it's a confidence issue tho. He has deserved a better fate some games. I just think the team in front of him... well they just aren't that good. Maybe it's like Cam Talbot. Looked great playing for the NYR who played a very strong defensively sound game but not so much for the Oilers. Somewhere along the way thus team forgot what made them successful last year. Team D isn't the same and it's not cuz 1 or 2 players are different. It's an entire team thing.

I'm not sure they outplayed them. Ya they out shot them but 40 of them were weak shots with no traffic at all aka easy saves. Jets didn't really have many what I'd call high percentage scoring chances and buffalo took over in the 3rd.

Yawn. Time for a nap. What a crap game and crap crowd

Boring game. Crowd has died.

Buffalo has way better top 6 talent than the Jets do especially with scheif out.

Man. And people complain when it's minus 10 or 15 here in November. 60000 people in Minnesota Watching that game in minus 40 almost. -6 farenheit is minus 21 Celsius. Windchill makes it -35. It's as cold there as it is here today and 60000 people filled that stadium.

Social Outcast is correct and I kinda feel they were put together so the bullet club can destroy them. Nothing wrong with the job squad 2.0 tho.

Yzerman apparently wants a young player similar to Drouin. The name Robby Fabbri from St Louis has popped up. Wonder if Petan would get it done. Tampa only has 2 million in cap space right now