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Knox is still on the roster,it's not written in stone that Hurl will start. Perhaps we should wait and see if Hurl starts and how Hurl plays before we say all is lost and woe is me??
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2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:That could be true. But Fleury did specifically say one of the reasons he waived was because it was the right thing to do for the Pens.
I want Toby to put the Jets first too. But he has zero obligation to do so. He was given a contract. He's abiding by that contract. If he waives, its a favour he's doing for the Jets. If he over-performed we would not expect the Jets to give him a raise mid-contract.
Yet how many players hold out when they do have a break out season.....Enstrom had a brutal year last year and wasn't great the year before...give back a little...no way Vegas takes him at 5 million...its not a big gamble for him??but would help the Jets who have stood by him the last couple of mediocre to brutal years....
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7 hours ago, Goalie said:
Its better to not know. Look at phaneuf and ottawa... Leaked that they asked him... He said no i want to stay... He is now getting crapped on by ottawa fans... Odd.. HE wants to stay and now rumors are hes being shopped. Its like Toby.. Better to not know.... If they asked and he said no, and it was leaked he would get crapped on... But crapped on for wanting to stay is kind of silly. Better to not know. The only way we find out is if hes not on the protected list Sunday. And if he is on the list... Could mean he was asked and said no or he wasnt asked at all... We will never know probably.
Yeah well if he is here and we lose Perreault or Lowry or Myers it's ethier Enstrom gets crapped on or Chevy take your pick... looks like Enstrom is gonna throw Chevy under the bus....nice way to pay back the Jets who overpaid for him and stood behind him with his horrible year last year...no Fleury here that's for sure..
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1 hour ago, Goalie said:
Ill say this...
Myers Toby Perreault Lowry.
Myers healthy gets you a first rd pick plus probably. It definitely gets you a LHD of similar ability.
Toby? Rough year. 1 year left till ufa status. Overpaid for his production. Probably gets you a 2nd rd pick and prospect or something similar. Its a bad contract but theres only 1 yr left and hes better than chiarot and stuart. So ya... Huge hole there on the lhd side without toby. Huge.
Perreault. I like him. I think hes a good guy to have around. Hes good offensively and defensively. Fits on really. 1st 2nd and 3rd lines. Good contract actually.
Lowry. Ideal 4th line center who plays a checking role with armia on his right.
Id rather lose Lowry cuz i think Copp would and could replace Lowry as that 4th line center.
What do u do? Work out a deal with Vegas where you expose toby and he agrees to waive. Tell them i will give you a "insert appropriate definitely not 1st rd pick" here if u dont take him and take Dano instead and go 7 3 1. So vegas gets a 3rd rd pick lets say and Dano from the Jets.
Jets could probably lay the foundation for a entry draft day deal with Vegas for a goalie
Man I would hate to lose Lowry..rather lose Perreault but really we are in tough here to lose a good player. ?
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6 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:When did the draft rules get released? Wasn't it just last summer? So last summer we knew guys like Laine were protected. You could maybe fault Chipman for not dealing with the 4 D we want to protect over this past season but the more pressing matter was trying to make the playoffs. The only thing they could have done was trade Myers, except he was hurt so they couldn't. Or trade Toby but he had a NMC and was dealing with a serious personal issue and I don't see the Jets trading him during that. And even if they wanted to, you need to find a team Toby wants to go to.
Im not sure Chipman had many options. He has more now. Because he can make side deals with Vegas. Toby, with one season left and it being the off-season, perhaps its easier for him to consider waiving to go somewhere.
Other teams in worse situations than the Jets. Losing Myers would suck. Losing Lowry or Perreault would be disappointing but not the end of the world. Reality is we will lose SOMEONE for nothing. At least were not in the position where we have to give twice as much to Vegas to take certain players because we're at the cap.
Make the playoffs? That's why we didn't sign a vet goalie last summer when they knew they weren't going with Pavs? No making the playoffs was not a priority last year going with youth was. So why keep a dman that's gonna cost us big? Big time fail on Chevy anyway you look at it.
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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:
He didn't give him the NMC in the last two years though.
Yea I know gave it to him in a long term deal then sat on his hands last 2 years when he knew he had to protect Myers and Trouba now we are stuck ....this is from a GM that knew this was coming at least 2 years ago... who supposedly looks at building our future first?
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Just now, The Unknown Poster said:
maybe because there was no need to protect players when Toby signed his contract. I suppose we could be critical of Chevy for not knowing there would be an expansion draft 5 years later but that might be pushing it.
Talking about the last 2 years.....sat on his hands.
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1 hour ago, IC Khari said:
Anyone who post here see themselves in this pic?
Is that a Freudian slip??
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Just read the Sun article where Mr Bell stated he is actually 5"11 not 6"1. Actually I think this guy may be sneaky good. Smaller qbs rarely get a sniff in the NFL based solely on their measurables.(except Russell Wilson?) So maybe we have something here..? he even compares himself to......Darian Durant.?
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The Expansion Draft
in Winnipeg Jets Discussion
Couple guys in league available but Vegas is going to be in tough to be competitive...not as bad as when we got into the league both times but the cupboard looks bare for wasn't it 50 million? Screw the expansion teams still alive and well in the NHL ?