HardCoreBlue

Still enjoying that the Leafs lost as I watch CM prove over and over again he is the best player on the planet.

SportsNet cheering hard for the Oil. We’re told LD is ‘gutting it out’ at 50% while a 100% press box guy looks on.

The Leafs lose. Ahhhh

How about losses on the Ukraine side? I wouldn’t know where to look for legitimate data on this.

And I got to say the blue checkers on the sane side are also making dolla dolla. It’s all a game while us average folk wonder what the hell is going on here.

Great observation. This is exactly true imo.

Fair enough but it don’t matter to me how many teams are in a league. My loyalties have never changed and stay with one team per league. But hey different strokes for different folks. At least both of us greatly detest the Leafs.

McDavid is the best player on the planet by far regardless of Toronto’s media suggesting Matthews is in the same conversation.. A lot of us here are hardcore Jet fans built at a very young age. We don’t cheer for two teams regardless where we happened to relocate years later. It’s frustrating the Oilers were rewarded for years of losing after they dominated in the 80’s. And yes if the shoe was on the other foot I would not be apologizing to anyone if the Jets were rewarded with McDavid for sucking. But hey here we are.

Move on from hating the Oilers? Why? This line of thinking then would suggest it’s time to move on from you’re team you’ve cheered for for forty years because they haven’t won enough.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the United States Supreme Court. The highest Court in the land is abusing its power, but no one with influence, power, authority does anything about it.

What exactly is Merrick Garland and his crew doing?

Ironically he and ilk like him use their consistently bad and often illegal behaviour to their advantage as is in ‘another hit job people, I told you this would happen but it won’t stop me, I will fight for you until my last breath’, and people with a very narrow view on this world lap this up like thirsty dogs while parting with their money and sanity. Oh and all while Garland and crew stand on the sidelines suggesting to the populace that no one is above the law.

This is pretty serious stuff but I’ll wait until after and report it in a book I’ll write.

I'm unclear what you mean here?

Not singling you out, I'm just suggesting we're sometimes focused on the wrong thing, i.e., spend less time and energy on constantly exposing these lies and more on what the consequences of all these lies should be. I don't know why you would throw this (the second bolded part). Of course this is the purpose of a place like this, I'm just suggesting to evolve the discussion beyond exposing everyone's lies and their misleading info and to focus more on discussing what we need to do about it. But at the end of the day this is a discussion forum and people can choose to discuss what they want.

That's what I don't agree with. They have indeed been exposed everywhere where you look on social media, the links you provided and numerous other links if one so chooses to access them on the world wide web. All sides are being presented with numerous links and sources valid or not and its being used to distract away from consequences. It's not like you have a hidden source that isn't accessible for others. As for proposing what needs to be done, this is where the Justice system has failed us miserably and needs to be held more accountable. Completely overhaul the justice system to bring it back to Justice is blind. I know I'm being naïve not easy task but has to be done to help change course on the path we are in now. First step, reverse all rulings and do not allow news outlets like Fox News, CNN, NewsMax, MSNBC etc etc to get away with the crap they get a way with to make a buck. If they present/imply themselves as a news outlet, do not let let squirm out of their accountability and split hairs by claiming to be an entertainment industry. Hit them in the pocket book for spreading lie/misinformation. At the ground floor treat each lie separately. For example, penalize Joe Rogan for spreading lies/misinformation thru punitive damages. Then move on to any industry that has misconstrued what Joe Rogan has done to push their own agenda and hit them with punitive damages. Hit them all in the pocket book where it hurts because ultimately that's what drives the show.

Nope. I disagree. Just jump on social media whether it's journalists and/or key board warriors. The problem is it gets convoluted with 'everyone does it, you're just not paying attention if you only present one side, here's the links'. It's everywhere you look. Then that one side gets away with it because, even by your own words, we don't feel the need to re-iterate the original lie/spreading of misinformation. The time has come to focus energy and efforts on how do we impose consequences of lying and what needs to happen and less on twitter shaming the lie or follow-up lies on the original lie. Left, right, middle pay for for your lies.

Fair enough. However what frustrates me is when someone lies and/or disseminates misinformation that hurts others then someone else reports on these lies/misinformation but adds their own narrative on top of that which can be misleading and/or false, the first reaction for some is to deal with the latter first and then it feels like the original lie/misinformation is being exonerated by deflecting the attention to other liars/misleaders. All I ever hear when some are reacting to stories like this is False narratives everywhere, Bias's, everyone is pushing their own agenda's, everyone lies etc etc and that's where the conversation stops. It's a perfect scenario for a liar to feel no consequence for their behaviour. 'Look they're lying too!' My wife and I have two children, a daughter and son. We've all lied, some more impactful then others. We've also exaggerated and/or added misleading information to the original lie. However, most times we have paid a consequence for a lie we have told regardless of another one of us lying as well.

That’s f’ing insane but let’s be nice in trying to convince these ‘lawmakers’ and their supporters on the downfalls of this approach. Ffs.

Fair enough. I just think this might be his last mulligan if things remain the same or regress next year. Eventually the buck has to stop at him.

Yea I get that but sometimes people can be let go with years remaining on their contract.

Garland: 'No one is above the law'. Lol.

Nope. Agree to disagree on that one.

What are reasonable expectations specifically for Chevy next year? I would think making post season would be one of them. If the Jets don't make the post season next year, that can't only fall on the shoulders of his next hire imo.

Yup. Depends on what one is talking about I guess.