TrueBlue4ever

Yes, Liegghio practices punting and aiming for the sidelines a lot too. And there are hundreds of “what ifs” in a game that would change the discussion, but the hard reality is that we didn’t make the kick, which is why we should entertain these other options, and maybe entertained them before the miss. Punting for the single point seems like the easiest way to score from that close in, the returner shouldn’t even have a chance to touch the ball given the distance. Other than the football “code” that it looks like a cheap way to win, what stops them from taking the easiest route to winning?

From a “which team do I dislike more” standpoint, if I have no favourite I just watch it unfold without cheering one way or the other. I always approach this type of game in terms of “what is best for the Bombers”. Right now, a Lion loss helps us more, so even if I am not openly rooting for them, a Rider win is the preferred outcome. As for Rourke, the media should absolutely be singing his praises. He is putting up numbers not seen since Doug Flutie, and a home-grown phenom at the sport’s most important position who is articulate and clean-cut and resurrecting a franchise who have struggled for a while is nothing but great for Canadian football. What’s not to like about it?

Typical of any fan base. Switch the players, and the same thing was done here.

Yep, lots of latent hostility out there. The loss heading into the bye week certainly did not help the mood (as evidenced by the title of this thread). Let’s try a less contentious topic. Paul LaPolice - great offensive coordinator, or the GREATEST offensive coordinator? Debate! 🤣

Question: What is easiest? (A) to punt a ball 26 yards for a single point out the side of the end zone (b) kick a 32 yard field goal, (c) punt a ball 45 yards through the back of the end zone for a single (d) kick the ball off a tee from 52 yards through the end zone for a single (e) kick the ball off a tee 33 yards out the side of the end zone for a single point (f) punt or kick it into the end zone and let your cover team pin the returner for the single point (g) go for the touchdown? What gives us the best chance of winning, and should anything else matter beyond that (like how it looks, what it says psychologically)?

Is there anything more hypocritical than a guy who pled the 5th 440 times in a recent deposition asking for transparency in the court system?

And then claim you were hacked if it was you with the dumb hot take. 😁

The first game of the year against Ottawa. Brown marched them down to the 21 with passing then 2 running plays to burn the clock and kick the field goal. So not Collaros himself but the team played for the FG, I imagine Zach would have run the same plays if he was in.

The really troubling thing for the GOP is that even though they parroted Trump’s lies, most of the old guard Republicans did not truly believe the election was stolen. But the new generation of Trump-endorsed candidates who are winning these primaries actually do believe it.

I did not know that was the name of the game. The bean bag one, that is.

I’m afraid to ask what the “corn hole” activity is.

But why do you “have to show faith?” Show faith In his ability to punt for the game winning single. It’s like those who argued that running the clock to zero in the last minute was bad because it showed no faith in the offence to go for the TD by throwing the ball and potentially leaving time on the clock. Should the coach not tactically play the best odds to win the game? Was the punt not the better tactical play odds-wise? Is it just the optics of “winning cheap”? And should it matter? I can understand the idea that it could psychologically affect a kicker if his coach doesn’t trust him to kick a 32 yard game winner, but O’Shea can totally frame it as “yes we trust him, which is why we put him out to kick an important 45 yarder earlier rather than punt, but this was about getting the point we need to win. If we trailed by 1 or 2, I make a different decision”. And how is Liegghio’s psyche now that he has missed those 2 kicks? Which is more damaging to his confidence? Just asking, appreciate the counter-arguments from you and would love you to expand if you want to.

To be a 32 yard field goal, ball would be on the 25 yard line. Punt distance is measured from the line of scrimmage, not from where the punter kicks it, so Liegghio’s 47 yard average means he is actually kicking the ball another 10 yards or so from where he stands. It was 45 yards from the line of scrimmage to the back of the end zone, and 26 yards (plus whatever angle distance) to kick it out of bounds in the end zone to the side. 26 yard punt should be pretty automatic.

So, thinking about the end of regulation, and wondering why this was not discussed more. Should O’Shea have called for a punt instead? Aside from the “who wants to win that way?” argument, (and is it really a valid argument?) should O’Shea take any heat for not taking the best option to win? Remember Ken Miller trying this and the punter couldn’t kick it through the end zone, but also remember Lui Passaglia deliberately shanking a field goal out the side of the end zone to win a game in Winnipeg on the last play by one point. Is it a cheap way to win, or smart tactics if the rules allow it? Thoughts? (and this is not just entirely 20/20 hindsight - I did say to my wife in the stands just before the kick “why don’t they just punt for the single?” -did no one else think this?)

Brilliant Twitter guy to follow. This Twitter post launched him into stardom:

Yeah, he could really use the money. His wardrobe looks a little thin. Can’t even afford a shirt or long pants.

Excellent post.

Actually, it is more often than it is not. 60% of the time in the last 20 years first place has been decided in the last or second last week of the season. It is better to measure the loss column in determine how far back a team is. BC has 2 games in hand on Winnipeg and is tied in the loss column. Calgary is two losses behind with two games in hand. Now, you do have to win the games in hand, but Winnipeg’s lead isn’t as huge as the current point spread might suggest. Lots of season to go before the West is settled.

Well, thanks very much for the kind words. 🙂

No one was to begin with, but thanks for your line in the sand.

Labour day game has traditionally always been a tough game.

What can I say, I’m a Shakespeare guy in a Twitter world. I guess I could have just said “stop being such whiny ******* here about every little thing” but that tends to lead to fights and name-calling, so I opted for measured perspective instead.

All typing. 🤣 Beats 25 posts of one sentence each, or the auto grouping format. But that’s just me. I know some hate the long posts.