White Out

I do have a child. And a very protective Mother as my Wife. I ran this story by her without telling her about my doubts, and, made no attempt to highlight beer was all over the child. She stopped me near the end and asked "why didnt this person take the jacket off? what is her problem?". And she has no idea about sports and rivalries like I do. Sorry. This story makes zero sense.

Let me unpack this further, and why I have a very high suspicion of this event: I have a tough time with the story. Reading it further, it's basically this: -Mom and son, son dressed in a blue bomber shirt with a green jacket, go to game -After game 2 drunk women yell at the son, and declare, according to mom 'well he has a green shirt on', after pouring beer on him -Mother decides to leave son her in sopping wet jacket that is the cause of verbal assault, and proceeds to run through a gauntlet of abuse. all because of the green jacket, now sopping with beer -She doesn't take the jacket off to keep her son free of abuse and stinky, sticky beer all over it. nope. keeps it on -A bizarre gauntlet of abuse occurs, where she undergoes more verbal abuse in 30 minutes than i've ever witnessed in going to football games for 30 years. all in this horrendous trip home from the stadium -Again, all due to a green jacket she was told at the start was the reason for the abuse. That is sopping wet in sticky, smelly beer. on a child. It just doesn't pass the smell test.

Zero witnesses and a completely absurd story. I have a tough time believing it went past anything other than a few drunks yelling at her kid like an idiot. I'm trying to envision myself at the game and this is my kid. Ok, the idiot fans are now pouring beer on my kid and verbally assaulting us. Take off the green jacket thats now presumably soaked anyways, right? No. We are to believe she kept her son in a sopping wet green coloured jacket to continue receiving verbal torment. According to her. I call BS. Occam's razor suggests this is a greedy fan looking for free crap after a couple people yelled at her and her son.

Calgary scored 19 points against the Riders, I guess we should predict the demise of Mitchell and the Stamps too, hey? Garbage. More like it.

I think this is a pretty decent list. I think most people would have Willy some where around 11-15. I think the fact Toronto overpaid in a time of desperation doesn't mean Willy has a higher value.

Where would you rank Willy as a QB in the CFL? All QB's of all teams? Top 10? Top 15?

yah, based on a very full body of work, 2.25 seasons as a starter. his resume is very poor. bazinga?

Lol. I guess we can only judge him if he was a starter for Calgary amirite?

Oh good. A qb controversy for some reason.

The debate will be finally solved. Willy will be given a chance to start in Toronto and I predict mediocre results.

So long mr willy. It was a slice.

And this is th flaw in your argument. He is doing things better, and differently. He's engineering scoring drives when we need them. He's not turning the ball over. And he's making faster reads which means teams can't just blitz over and over again without consequences. You're just wrong.

We don't have a Mike Reilly or Bo Levi Mitchell. We have a game managing qb who makes very few mistakes and can engineer drives when needed. It will have to do because that's what we have. Behind him we have a qb who's lost all confidence in his game and can't make quick decisions. And is error prone. I'd love to have our d give up the least yards and most take away. Heck while I'm at it let's add ray lewis circa 2000. This is the team we have and MOS and our coordinators have found a winning strategy. Let's enjoy it.

I dont think you'll find me anywhere claim Nichols is carrying this team. Our d and special teams are driving the bus. So we agree there too. But Nichols has been far superior to Willy.

The feeling is mutual. Solid post though. 10/10 for adding new discussion points and advancing the thread with personal attacks.

2014 drew willy threw 16 interceptions to his 14 touchdowns. Try again.

This win streak must be just a nightmare for you. Thoughts and prayers.

He had 5 good games 2 years ago. Honestly. So what? Let's go find Casey Printers I guess?

1 interception in 6 games, 71% completion ratio, and undefeated. If that's not consistent then you simply have an agenda and don't care to hide it. Why can't you be happy with 6 wins in a row? Sweeping the Riders? (who by the way took Calgary to the ropes both games they played them just before us). Honest to god. It's one thing to have your team losing and hope they get spanked to effect change you think will help your team. But this may be the first time I've ever seen fans of a winning team want the wheels to fall off to effect change they want and perceive will make us "elite".

Disagree completley. Nichols engineered scoring drives and also had at least 5 drops yesterday from his receivers. No idea where your getting 3 dropped interceptions from. He's thrown 1 interception this season. Is that luck too? I've never seen a fan base with so many people calling for the head of a 6-0 QB with a 71% completion, 7 to 1 TD to int ratio.. It's baffling. Absolutely incredible.

Who's doing that? " Willy did himself no favours and is absolutely as much to blame for him getting knocked around as our line. " Go ahead. Read what I wrote for yourself. I realize that you have your dander up but take it down a notch. If you put Willy in the Bombers scheme right now there's no reason to think he'd suddenly start reading D's better. Does improved O line play mean he won't lock on to his 1st read for way too long? Get caught like a deer in headlights under pressure? As far as your assertion that if it was Willy in yesterday I'd be calling for him to get out of town, I don't know how I can win that argument. You're attacking a position that not only I haven't taken, but, also suggesting that I'd want to run a QB out of town who's winning. I think you have to try and divorce what you think I feel about Willy and what I actually feel about him. Look at MOS. I hated the guy and was sick of his stupid smirking and his relentless Willy starting. At this point I'd be in complete support of extending him. Why? My opinions are malleable; results matter. I always thought Willy and MOS both were good guys who were obviously well liked (albeit I still think Willy might be a little below average IQ compared to other CFL qbs). If Willy came back in and was winning for us, I would be thrilled. I'm ok with being wrong, and it would seem that once MOS has come to the same conclusion I did, that Nichols is a better option, he's running a very solid football team. I support him fully. It's ok to be wrong and I was about MOS. I would suggest that you (and others who think Willy should get another try) reflect on your opinions and ask yourself this "do I really think Willy is a good qb or do I just not want to be wrong?" Dont take it personally, just food for thought.

The fact that you do want to go back to a qb who's 1-4 on a 7-4 team doesnt make you wrong but it does call into question your decision making.

Ya, no. If he made faster decisions and helped relieve the pressure himself that wouldn't have been the case. The biggest misunderstanding I find occurs here is people think our offensive line did this magical 180 when Nichols went in. Not so. Our new starter simply makes fast reads and dumps the ball away when there's pressure. He also takes a lot of hits but stands in the pocket and gets the ball out. Happened several times yesterday. Willy did himself no favours and is absolutely as much to blame for him getting knocked around as our line. That's the truth. He wasn't a golden boy 400k bonafide star qb so many of us do desperately wanted to believe he was. He was a mistake. To the credit of MOS he was able to identify it and move on in time to save his job and our season. I'm now firmly in support of O'Shea and will eat crow on him being a good coach at this point.

No.

Now is a great time to deal Willy to Toronto if we can get that Cody Fajardo back and some other pieces. I really like Fajardo. A lot.