White Out
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So is the narrative now that the OL finally showed up, just in time for Nichols?
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I dont even recognize this offense. What a difference.
Imagine that. You cant judge a qb by practice alone... what a concept.
Go Nichols, Go Bombers
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5 hours ago, 17to85 said:
and it holds true whether you use Burris or Harris as the starter in Ottawa.
Upon reflection however, I guess it's really not right to include Ricky Ray since he was developed by Edmonton. Still though, the bulk of qbs are coming from only a couple places.
What are the odds of that in an 8 team (9 very recently) league. Oh... actually pretty good.
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How can he not be? His salary is what will do him in.
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23 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
Reinebold's a good special teams coach. That's about it.
Funny, 3 years of being an ST coach was the only resume padding that MOS required.
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what do you think Bomber management is going to put out there? That MOS has his job on the line in 2 weeks? Jesus.
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21 minutes ago, Atomic said:
If you don't care then quit crying about it.
*sigh *
How am I supposed to win this argument? You reply to me and basically take a huge dump all over me, and, if I respond 'I'm crying'. If I don't I'm basically endorsing your views. Grow up. "Cry about it" lol.. seriously, this sounds like something my child might come up with.
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2 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:
A few have suggested that your "What, who me" routine coupled with sarcastic and forced civility; could be the reasons why he is angry...
Or, or, or- you taking the higher road when in fact you are just as if not more guilty of travelling down that same road as everybody else.
I'm sorry you feel that way. The admins have asked me to try and be less combative and bring it down a notch. And I agree its probably in everyones best interests we all try and find a way to discuss things with a more even keel. If you aren't interested in discussing these topics in a respectful manor, that's on you.
Edit: Same for your atomic. Rage all you want. I don't care. Legit question and point of discussion. Feel free to scream at your keyboard for all I care.
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the 5-1 start was pretty awesome. I remember being really up on Willy after not wanting him, and, some what impressed with MOS. The results were there. Since that 5-1 start it's been a debacle. Just a hot mess.
I think I mentioned before too about how winning 07 or 01 or 11 would have made a world of difference for this team and our fan bases morale. 01 was the least excusable. That was our Cup and a sub 500 team got hot at the right time, and, we didn't show up. That one hurts. The loss to BC was painful of course but not entirely unexpected. It's the loss the Riders that stings the most even now, and probably within the hard core fans still rings in our ears a bit. We were the better team for sure and a terrible fluke injury doomed us. Ugh. I can`t even bare to think about that game much more or I`ll get all pissed off.
What Mike said was bang on. As Bomber fans were not enjoying this team right now, were coping with it. Its a terrible way to be a sports fan.
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7 minutes ago, Goalie said:
Austin is a good coach but at the same time he's yet to develop a QB on his own. You take Collaros away and they are just an average team
If the worst thing you can say about Austin is that if he loses his starting QB he still can field an average team, wow, sign me up
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2 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:
Milts last second TD was in 2006
Dont know how I missed that.
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2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
I can feel the nervousness of the its all willys fault toxic group as they get to see nichols in edm. wonder how many games of excuses he will get before full panic sets in.
im guessing hes gonna be between 2-3 tds and the same for pics. Hit around 10 times. Hard to beat a team all three meetings out of the year nichols may pull it out in edm. I hope mos doesnt panic pull nichols for willy though.
I don't feel a tad bit nervous. Why would I? See my above post. Good god, it's an absolute no lose. If Nichols even comes within 2 scores he will out done previous Bombers teams.
I feel like the only way Nichols can really do himself harm is if he throws 3 or more picks, zero touchdowns, and the Bombers score no more than a field goal. Otherwise it's fairly par for the course.
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1 hour ago, Westy Sucks said:
In Edmonton, I wonder what the point differential is for our last 5-6 games at Commonwealth. Hopefully Nichols has a big day
Last 5 games at Commonwealth:
3-32... -29
9-41, -29, added to -32 = -61
7-25, -18, added to -61, = -79
10-42, -32... added to -79, = -111
10-24, -14, added to -111 = -125Last 5 trips to Edmonton are 5 losses with a combined point differential of -125. Meaning we've lost, on average, by 25 points in Edmonton over 5 years.
But hey guys, this is just game 5, right? Sorry couldn't help myself.edit: In fact, using the CFl website, I can't even see a recorded win in Edmonton. Prior to 2004 it seems the game results aren't available.
Meaning the Calgary Flames have played in the Stanley Cup final more recently than we won in Edmonton. Holy ****.
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1 hour ago, bb1 said:
With Masoli in Edm but we can't win at home no matter who we put in? And coaching has nothing to do with it huh? Anyone here not willing to trade MOS for Austin? Anyone?
Our teams "recipe" for being terrible isn't just one ingredient. We have a bad coach, a bad GM, and a bad QB (in this league that's a kiss of death). Look, talent is missing elsewhere but those 3 positions can't all suck. If they do, you're going to need incredible luck elsewhere.
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53 minutes ago, Goalie said:
Really don't think they are even close to firing MOS at this time. I don't know, call it a gut feeling, calling it all media people who are credible saying it's not gonna happen anytime soon, but... i just don't think it happens anytime soon. I think MOS is here until the end of the season... at that time, i think unless this team makes the playoffs, he's probably a goner at the end of the season. Is this gonna pop up every week? What happens if we win next week? are we gonna have a should MOS gets a new contract poll?
I have 2 areas I'm going to disagree with you on here. First, you think MOS will be here until end of season. That's entirely dependent on the Bombers and MOS. If this losing continues the decision will be made for the BOD and Walters. You can't tell me that if they go winless straight thru the Banjo Bowl they won't fire him. And how unrealistic is that, really? Even 1 win from now until Banjo Bowl.
Also, it won't pop up every week. If he wins, he buys himself probably a 3-4 losses for every win. If we lose to Edmonton I promise not to start a thread... by then the voices for his firing will be louder and there's no point in asking peoples opinions. If he does win why would anyone think of a contract? How ridiculous is that? I feel like that last line was thrown in to try and make my poll seem ludicrous, as if the firing was an out of line question based on one week. This is 2 years of losing becoming a third year of losing... cmon.
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14 minutes ago, Atomic said:
Well no ****, the likelihood of O'Shea getting fired obviously rises with each loss. Don't need a poll to figure that one out. Or maybe you did.
Why so angry?
If your not interested in the poll, don't participate. What a poisonous atmosphere some people want to incubate around hete
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1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:
Don't you get tired of your shtick? I know many have. You should take a break.
Troll/clown hybrid- please stop.
I'm sorry you feel that way, and that instead of engaging in a respectful debate you've decided to sling mud instead.
There's value in this poll, whether you agree or not. In just 1 week we've gone from 90% to the same question getting only 55% no. If you can't recognize the fundamental shift in how MOS is perceived, this poll has all but erased that. Fans have certainly gone into this year with doubt, but, now we're entering territory where if MOS doesn't get a win, and within the next 2 weeks, he's likely gone.
Sorry if you think this thread is some sort of schtick.
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10 minutes ago, Rich said:
What game do the Bombers have a high chance of winning right now? Hamilton the week after? Toronto the week after that? Then we are into our bye and that is the most likely week O'Shea gets fired.
I mean, if that is a serious question, ya. What's our winning % and average margin of losing in Edmonton? It's brutal. Yes, a home game vs Hamilton is a much easier game than Edmonton @ Commonwealth.
That being said I don't think it's a trap by MOS. He's 1) not smart enough for that 2) trying to save his job. Willy isn't getting it done and even Iron Mike has to stop smiling for a moment and try something new.
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2 minutes ago, iso_55 said:
I want MOS gone but this poll is lame. Just what results are you looking for? What results do you expect? That he should be retained??? LOL!
It's already shifting. Look at the last poll; 90% said no. We're close to 50-50 now. You don't see value in seeing this movement in the base?
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Just now, 17to85 said:
Or how about you drop the charade and just admit that you're pushing an agenda rather than feigning surprise when people go in the only natural direction a thread like this can go? The next time you try civil discourse will be the first. You always come in with hostile tones and then act surprised when people react in kind. You are the kind of person that is so convinced of your opinions that you are actually shocked that anyone might actually disagree and it offends you that not everyone shares your utter brilliance.
Why is it an agenda? Do you really think I have any sway in getting someone fired? Please. If you think that trying to gain the morale high ground is achieved with your boorish behavior, and that said morale high ground will some how elevate your flimsy opinions of MOS you're mistaken. On both accounts.
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28 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
bullshit, there are no credible sources speculating that firing O'Shea is even being considered right now and one source even says it's not in the cards yet you put up this same poll as last week, for what reason? There is only one, to get people talking about firing the coach.
am I supposed to feel bad that I'm ahead of the curve when it comes to this stuff? MOS being fired has been talked about in the media more and more. Soon it will become all but inevitable unless this team/coach flips a switch and figures it out.
But ya, lets get all amped up and yell profanity at each other? Cmon. How about civil discourse. I'm really trying here.
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3 minutes ago, Goalie said:
I voted NO. I don't think they are even considering firing MOS at this time, Whens our first bye week tho? That's a possibility. I don't think it's at that point yet tho, should it be? that's another question. Is it? Probably not.
Losing hurts and drills away at peoples confidence. Look at how badly peoples confidence in MOS has been shaken by a dull loss to Calgary. Not a blow out, just a couple scores. Mike has given up on MOS, and there's media speculation ramping up. It's easy to talk about it being early in the year but it's not early in MOS's regime. 1-5 with a crushing loss to the Eskimos is a very hard spot to be in if your Michael O'Shea... just try and picture these boards and how people will feel if the Eskimo's put the boots to us 35-10 or more. It would be a blood bath.
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Same poll and idea as last time. I'll state again this poll is simply about MOS's job in the near term. This isn't supposed to be a 10 page debate on firing MOS in the off season, or, if we should fire him. This is just me gauging where the fan base is at and if people think he will be fired if get blown out against Edmonton. Not a loss like Calgary yesterday, but a real good rodgering that we often get at Commonwealth Stadium.
Please be respectful in the thread, this isn't meant to be a divisive post to cause arguments. If you can't keep your comments and replies respectful then maybe considering Pm'ing me your anger instead lol.
OK, it IS Willy ...
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That wasn't the question though. If we're just going to say this was the OL, and, Willy would have been just as good behind it, then we're just starting at the result and moving backwards.
Nichols clearly had better protection but that also can be a function of him releasing the ball faster, looking off receivers, and pushing the ball further downfield. It's never just one thing. It's a combined effort.