Booch

Hogan back...why....pointless
Couldnt cut ties with useless Thomas so have him coach?...??...Like wtf....with all his coaching experience and all....the least adept technical/skill guy we have...so have him coach?...makes sense to me...what a joke...those 2 moves just take the shine off of what so far has been a good off-season...but not a shocker...

Can this team grow a pair of balls and cut loose guys.      Hugely disappointed in this bull crap.       Sign Jake + Hogan to fill the Buzz and Boomer costumes if you don't have the balls to say "good bye".     Massive steps back on this club.   I'm at the point of cleaning house at the top.  
Have we ever heard anything remotely that suggested that Jake Thomas was big in the film room and while limited on physical abilities he had the brains and the ability to dissect plays on the field.    Come on now this is a joke.
Hogan f'd up big time... soooo we bring him back?  A complete joke.  

Problem player might not have been the correct term - biggest liability is probably more suitable.  My issue isn't with Jake the person, it's the player that never showed a ton of skill (even in his younger days) now being responsible for coaching up others in an area that we desperately need help.
He absolutely may turn out to be a great coach but let's not act like he was some great superstar back in the day and he's just no longer the player he once was.  The drop-off from prime Jake and 2025 Jake is not that severe and he was closer to his prime 7 years ago when we first tried to move on from him.  The fact that he lasted 13 years is a testament to his dedication but also a damnation of our scouting/drafting.

THat was also 8 yrs ago also...before we effed up our SMS to Assett/ability ratio 
Since we grabbed WJ in FA ....who is a big ticket FA we have grabbed that was a coup or considered a big score?....I cant really recall any off the top off my head...but can think of multiple guys we re-upped/extended for big money...but small production....cause it was the curse of status quo/we good....and not projecting 2...3 yrs ahead

THat was also 8 yrs ago also...before we effed up our SMS to Assett/ability ratio 
Since we grabbed WJ in FA ....who is a big ticket FA we have grabbed that was a coup or considered a big score?....I cant really recall any off the top off my head...but can think of multiple guys we re-upped/extended for big money...but small production....cause it was the curse of status quo/we good....and not projecting 2...3 yrs ahead

wasnt it like 50k a yr moving up to the next collective bargaining agreement?
Lat yr 400k bump was a precentage of the new rev the league got from its rev sharing part of deal....so that first big bump may not be the norm yr in and yr out...or it could be even greater...Too bad the League isnt a bit more transparent about it...or putting it out there for all to see
Maybe this yr its up another 300....400k in addition to the 50k....so essentially almost a million higher than 2024
 

wasnt it like 50k a yr moving up to the next collective bargaining agreement?
Lat yr 400k bump was a precentage of the new rev the league got from its rev sharing part of deal....so that first big bump may not be the norm yr in and yr out...or it could be even greater...Too bad the League isnt a bit more transparent about it...or putting it out there for all to see
Maybe this yr its up another 300....400k in addition to the 50k....so essentially almost a million higher than 2024
 

THat was also 8 yrs ago also...before we effed up our SMS to Assett/ability ratio 
Since we grabbed WJ in FA ....who is a big ticket FA we have grabbed that was a coup or considered a big score?....I cant really recall any off the top off my head...but can think of multiple guys we re-upped/extended for big money...but small production....cause it was the curse of status quo/we good....and not projecting 2...3 yrs ahead

I agree if it takes him off the field I'm all for it,,,,,but to become the DL coach...piss poor decision really when we have been pretty bad there for most part last few yrs....with him being of the worst...I'm sure there were better options out there

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....
just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

Hogan back...why....pointless
Couldnt cut ties with useless Thomas so have him coach?...??...Like wtf....with all his coaching experience and all....the least adept technical/skill guy we have...so have him coach?...makes sense to me...what a joke...those 2 moves just take the shine off of what so far has been a good off-season...but not a shocker...

he also had the worst collection of guys in league to work with too the last few yrs....so hard to say...I do know Patterson is a well respected and experienced coach both sides of the border...But he chose to retire so was out of our hands ....he did quite well in 2021 as the coach when we had talent to utilize.....Grey Cup ring and dominate defence cant be argued there
I agree with SANKEY...More holes in his game than T.Jones and yes as bad as T.Jones is in space he way better than Sankey....so why pay Sankey premium cash when we can get the same for less....Now if we can grab McManus tho....you do that

Hogan back...why....pointless
Couldnt cut ties with useless Thomas so have him coach?...??...Like wtf....with all his coaching experience and all....the least adept technical/skill guy we have...so have him coach?...makes sense to me...what a joke...those 2 moves just take the shine off of what so far has been a good off-season...but not a shocker...

he also had the worst collection of guys in league to work with too the last few yrs....so hard to say...I do know Patterson is a well respected and experienced coach both sides of the border...But he chose to retire so was out of our hands ....he did quite well in 2021 as the coach when we had talent to utilize.....Grey Cup ring and dominate defence cant be argued there
I agree with SANKEY...More holes in his game than T.Jones and yes as bad as T.Jones is in space he way better than Sankey....so why pay Sankey premium cash when we can get the same for less....Now if we can grab McManus tho....you do that

a group of godplayers can make a lousy coach look good, just as much as lousy players can make a good coach look bad....I know you like to defend Osh and challenge me, but in a pivitol yr for us and one where we may need a lot to go right to get us on track again...dumb move....and I sute there were better options...heck I know there were...
Patterson choose to retire...and was known actually during the season it was his last...even further shows that we had a long time to bat names around...and this was best we came up with

oh I agree...100 percent.....but my point is...is this the best we could have done??....thats an unequivocal hell no!....Thomas prob still wanted to play but Walter's may have taken that option away from Osh....so Osh offered him this....we shall see tho how it turns out....but if the DL improves it will be from players brought in and not some new crazy moves JT came up with never seen before to catch olines off-guard, and taught them to the guys, or some funky new scheme to revolutionize how dlines play in pro football 😁
 

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....
just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

You might be right, you might be wrong. None of us can know with any certainty right now as to how well JT can do. Anybody saying they know for sure he will fail or succeed is straight up showing bias. Hey, if the DL shows no improvement I'll call for his head. Bombers first....always. What I won't do is not give him a chance.
Maybe he is exactly the coach we need and this turns out to be a great hire. Right now that is as feasible as him failing. Every coach who ever becomes a coach is because someone saw something in them and took a chance. Let's give him that chance too before declaring this a poor hire. He's off the field now....no reason to dislike him anymore.

Stegall always said his ego would never allow him to be a good coach. He is very self aware in that regard.

wasnt it like 50k a yr moving up to the next collective bargaining agreement?
Lat yr 400k bump was a precentage of the new rev the league got from its rev sharing part of deal....so that first big bump may not be the norm yr in and yr out...or it could be even greater...Too bad the League isnt a bit more transparent about it...or putting it out there for all to see
Maybe this yr its up another 300....400k in addition to the 50k....so essentially almost a million higher than 2024
 

I agree if it takes him off the field I'm all for it,,,,,but to become the DL coach...piss poor decision really when we have been pretty bad there for most part last few yrs....with him being of the worst...I'm sure there were better options out there

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....
just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

Hogan back...why....pointless
Couldnt cut ties with useless Thomas so have him coach?...??...Like wtf....with all his coaching experience and all....the least adept technical/skill guy we have...so have him coach?...makes sense to me...what a joke...those 2 moves just take the shine off of what so far has been a good off-season...but not a shocker...

I think he may have been the choice but with that personal issues he had to deal with..they bumped OC Guy up in the interm...as just choosing him as unqualified as he was...seemed an odd choice...with maybe the gentlemen agreement that JJ would take over when he got here...and then we renaged on it kinda?? The whole thing seemed odd and we did interview experienced guys...and guys with solid coaching resumes...and then went with that maroon?? Like wtf

Good plan.   Put hogan specifically as the coach for the one area he was the most horrible at last year.   And Jake Thomas coaching.   Feels like two giant steps backwards to me, but I hope I’m wrong.