Booch

a group of godplayers can make a lousy coach look good, just as much as lousy players can make a good coach look bad....I know you like to defend Osh and challenge me, but in a pivitol yr for us and one where we may need a lot to go right to get us on track again...dumb move....and I sute there were better options...heck I know there were...
Patterson choose to retire...and was known actually during the season it was his last...even further shows that we had a long time to bat names around...and this was best we came up with

oh I agree...100 percent.....but my point is...is this the best we could have done??....thats an unequivocal hell no!....Thomas prob still wanted to play but Walter's may have taken that option away from Osh....so Osh offered him this....we shall see tho how it turns out....but if the DL improves it will be from players brought in and not some new crazy moves JT came up with never seen before to catch olines off-guard, and taught them to the guys, or some funky new scheme to revolutionize how dlines play in pro football 😁
 

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....
just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

You might be right, you might be wrong. None of us can know with any certainty right now as to how well JT can do. Anybody saying they know for sure he will fail or succeed is straight up showing bias. Hey, if the DL shows no improvement I'll call for his head. Bombers first....always. What I won't do is not give him a chance.
Maybe he is exactly the coach we need and this turns out to be a great hire. Right now that is as feasible as him failing. Every coach who ever becomes a coach is because someone saw something in them and took a chance. Let's give him that chance too before declaring this a poor hire. He's off the field now....no reason to dislike him anymore.

Stegall always said his ego would never allow him to be a good coach. He is very self aware in that regard.

wasnt it like 50k a yr moving up to the next collective bargaining agreement?
Lat yr 400k bump was a precentage of the new rev the league got from its rev sharing part of deal....so that first big bump may not be the norm yr in and yr out...or it could be even greater...Too bad the League isnt a bit more transparent about it...or putting it out there for all to see
Maybe this yr its up another 300....400k in addition to the 50k....so essentially almost a million higher than 2024
 

I agree if it takes him off the field I'm all for it,,,,,but to become the DL coach...piss poor decision really when we have been pretty bad there for most part last few yrs....with him being of the worst...I'm sure there were better options out there

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....
just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

Hogan back...why....pointless
Couldnt cut ties with useless Thomas so have him coach?...??...Like wtf....with all his coaching experience and all....the least adept technical/skill guy we have...so have him coach?...makes sense to me...what a joke...those 2 moves just take the shine off of what so far has been a good off-season...but not a shocker...

I think he may have been the choice but with that personal issues he had to deal with..they bumped OC Guy up in the interm...as just choosing him as unqualified as he was...seemed an odd choice...with maybe the gentlemen agreement that JJ would take over when he got here...and then we renaged on it kinda?? The whole thing seemed odd and we did interview experienced guys...and guys with solid coaching resumes...and then went with that maroon?? Like wtf

Good plan.   Put hogan specifically as the coach for the one area he was the most horrible at last year.   And Jake Thomas coaching.   Feels like two giant steps backwards to me, but I hope I’m wrong.   

Sankey is over rated and I would rather be have T.Jones. However, I want to see this year's camp to have some proven CFL talent challenging incumbents at every position groups. We don't play rookies unless they stand out, and that is only OK if you mix rookies with CFL proven talent to challenge at camp. Having 24 starters, a handful of 2nd year players, all rookies cannot be feasible if your organization likes to slow roll rookies.
Also, the CFL talent has to be correctly identified. We saw maybe some of the worst GMing in Bomber history in our FA signings last year. Just atrocious.

I didnt say I want Sankey one time at all...and yeah said hard pass before...that was a general statement...and agree...hes a bit better version of T.Jones...just saying if a guy is available...who makes u better...get him regardless of who is under contract already
But do agree...if this "regime" again decides to play the inferior player...excessive Canadians when not needed...and not best option...then yeah I gonna complain...cause its just more of the same again
And I havnt said sign every player available either...so appreciate u not putting words in my mouth please and thanks...and save for guys who were cut already...and our own guys...there is nobody out there worth signing yet...

I didnt say I want Sankey one time at all...and yeah said hard pass before...that was a general statement...and agree...hes a bit better version of T.Jones...just saying if a guy is available...who makes u better...get him regardless of who is under contract already
But do agree...if this "regime" again decides to play the inferior player...excessive Canadians when not needed...and not best option...then yeah I gonna complain...cause its just more of the same again
And I havnt said sign every player available either...so appreciate u not putting words in my mouth please and thanks...and save for guys who were cut already...and our own guys...there is nobody out there worth signing yet...

KW is responsible for who comes to camp. 100% on him. Terrible GMing last offseason. He needs a big offseason this year.

regardless of potion, or your situation.....if you have a chance to make your team better....you take it....we dont seem to do that here
We seem to think that if you have a returning player or vet....a guy you perosnal like for whatever reason, then there is no need casue we think we "good"

Yup...experienced it first hand...and seen it happen too...The Arland Bruce and Troy Mills incident still is one that sticks in the ol memory bank quite vividly

100% agree. I mean, the missing all of camp thing is really strange for a guy who was basically the insurance policy at OC, and was a HC not long ago. Must've been some really serious family stuff. Going from that to being away from home for the majority of the season is a lot to deal with. 
On top of that, we saw flashes of toxic narcissism from Hogan every time he opened his mouth, which was not even frequent or long in length. I shudder to think what he was like to work with. From what I saw, it firmly looked like the play call duty was taken from Hogan and given to Jackson very late. But we never had a proper install or repping to go with the playbook. 
Certainly, the strangest occurrence during the Mafia era. We took so long that half of our candidates took other jobs. It sure seemed like Jackson was going to be a 1a 1b with Hogan, before camp. 

If he sticks for 4-ish years, even without becoming a regular starter, he could make enough money to retire. IF he is fiscally wise. And if he doesn't have that burning desire to play football. Neither of which is a tremendous chance imo. If he doesn't become a starter down there, I think he will be up here. 
 The only real move could be if he forces a trade, which I think has happened a time or two but it is rare. And as it is, he would be better served coming here if his NFL window closes. Marty is extremely prolific as an OL coach. Over the next couple years he'd have a much better path to playing here, coaching, and mentorship. 

Yup...if his nfl chance fizzled...and more than likely will within 2 yrs...its play here...or don't play
 

Yup...if his nfl chance fizzled...and more than likely will within 2 yrs...its play here...or don't play
 

I think he may have been the choice but with that personal issues he had to deal with..they bumped OC Guy up in the interm...as just choosing him as unqualified as he was...seemed an odd choice...with maybe the gentlemen agreement that JJ would take over when he got here...and then we renaged on it kinda?? The whole thing seemed odd and we did interview experienced guys...and guys with solid coaching resumes...and then went with that maroon?? Like wtf

Bloodsport wasnt real?!?!??!?!?!....damn I feel so cheated now 

Sex pest

Yep..as i said take it with a grain of salt. It is overheard chat in physio room. 
I don't mind Condell at all. He's a good experienced OC. He is what we needed