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exactly...a 100 percent healthy..or close to Strev next yr....ZC if back, and Wilson...as well as hopefully Elgersma after an off-season of actually grabbing a legit FA receiver and Oline guy, and or trading for some, a real OC nad a pro level coaching is deserved to them, and then judge....and if that all stink then...well...we screwed for that yr and time to clean house in the QB department

Vaval right now...sucks as a corner....he isnt reacting or aware....he too busy thinking still...he's a hinderance right now.... well you can pull Vanterpool for one....And if you replace Mitchel with Echols theres a returner...Also Cobb for one of Jake or Korn...There's another option at returner.... Bailey can come on for any Canadian....Ball...Thomas...etc Or...Give Castillo all 3 kicking duties and swap the punter with Baily...Punter guys presence on our roster isnt gonna win us any games and be key.... Woodbey has usurped what visions they had for Ayers....so drop Ayers as well for a game or 2 and get Woods/Adams on.... Lotsa ways we could fix some things with minor roster config, but Osh is too much a stubborn dipshit to do it....Cant make us worse...BUT could make us better Parker and Houston for Lawson Jr and Vaval would make a world of differnce as well

it's not anymore....it's currently....he has less recovery than even Schoen had and before retearing his ACL again he had zero burst...minimal ability to separate...or create separation after the catch...It's rare at best for any player save for a lineman to come back first yr post op to show they have regained it all...doesnt happen...Yr 2 tho yes.....they should be back, and if not 90% That's where you need to judge Strev with his running ability. Also any (all) QB's here need and deserve the chance in 2026 camp to show what they can do with legit offensive weapons and an actual pro playbook...or pro coordinator...starting all new will be worse than this yr Right now as mentioned yeah he looks uncomfortable...and very rushed.....and I sure its a combination of what's mentioned...and also how he wired...he very high energy...he needs to slow his process down, a bit as well and then things will develop a bit more on field...and also with him...coaching can fix that but I profess over and over our coaching is killing us...and not just at Q.B If he look same as he does this yr, next yr...well then yeah you cut bait, but judging it now is really not truly indicative...Our offence as a whole all yr has been a clusterfuck...even ZC more times than not looked like a first yr starter Barring a trade...we kinda relegated to what we have in house...and possibly Elgersma...Is ZC gonna play again this yr...let alone next?...no clue...But whoever wins the starting job next yr....you cant roll into the yr with no experienced, let alone capable QB as your number 2 Love Schoen and Strev but we banked on both coming off not even a yr removed from major surgery as guys we were gonna lean on and ignored any other possible/option...and we paying for it Same can be said for dline...Look at the guys who were available in FA...guys who were available via trade (Flo) and we just stood pat cause we figured 2025 would manifest like 2019-2021 and that in itself was wishfull thinking as some those guys were already at their apex and only direction they had was down We grossly mismanaged and misjudged our roster, and looked backward and not forward...had no succession anywhere other than BO in place....and look at us now...teetering on a possible tear down and rebuild We should never have been in this spot yet here we are....and we could really be a lot better than we are, but our coaching isnt where it should be, and we too stubborn to make changes Before I forget...Wilson has the best arm of all our QB's and the best overall skill set...he needs polish and experience.....and well we know here getting the polish and experience is a big ask

I actually think we match well defensively, but we need the experienced corner in Houston to be succesful Guy is a good corner....sure he took a lot of chances and git burned at times...but if he reigns that in....we are worlds better....and are more experienced.....which helps everyone Hope to see Kramdi soley at Safety and Griffin at SAM....Even some use of Woodbey there and Griffin at that dime role he excelled at, and NOT Kelly! With 6 starters on offence and only needed 1 on defence....no need for Kelly to even be out there....Or Thomas/Korn for that matter

then we should mesh well as basically I do too....Ratio would be changed...players to facilitate it would be targeted....no position would be penciled in pre-camp save for maybe BO but even then if we un-earthed a Mike Pringle we'd be seeing a lot of 2 back sets and BO used in slot Loyalty would be shown to the team....not the player as well.....Thats the world I came from...You underperform....you're out

Oh I know you would have...as many others too....Same here....said it many times banking on Schoen was a error....But this atempt to "extend" his seson...was just a flailing move was my point in my ramble lol....no point to it....doesnt put the best player out there...and basically eliminates him for 2026 On that 2 point convert attempt that went for the int to the house...Schoem couldnt cut and break on the ball as he should due to his limitations, and well we saw the result Another healthy receiver would have....and who knows...maybe we win that game in O.T and the chance for a home playoff game is still in play...Its not now unless we run the tabnle, and cant see that happening

or just sashay through it Not bringing Houston on ...he with experience and knows BLM and the receivers is boneheaded for Vaval....he's not ready yet, and may never be....his niche this yr is returning and it suffers when he plays defense Mitchell I would swap out for Echols and see what he brings....cant bring less and he has a nice skill set...Not sire what happened to Mitchell, or if its in his head now but just seems so tentative, and unsure, and shows zero explosion...let alone jump in his step I know we beat Jake to death but he doesn't help us out there at all...he's a body and takes reps...Korn too....insignificant reps at best....so why? We give BLM time in pocket....good luck with that Bring on an athletic Baily to help spell off our ends AND actually use Person for more than 6 reps....Drop Ayers...again for basically just ST use and get Adams/Woods on roster...preferably both and doable if we go 3 nationals on oline...and then re-assess how defence looked....cant look worse, and we already know Woods and Adams can play, and anyone who thinks Thomas and Korn brings more than either of them....likely even Bailey really is lost in the dark like Osh Toss Vibert in as well as the extra guy, he may surprise and you dont know unless you try guys. Due to injury we had to put an unused and really unknown Speller in and he Centered us to a Grey Cup win with lockdown play...who here would have predicted or were pining for that?....Nobody Just because Osh rosters them being the head coach doesn't mean they the best...we have seen that over and over his time here that a lot of his choices are strictly a personal like As with Strev....guy is less than a yr off reconstruction, so to expect him to run this yr like before....aint realistic, next yr tho....more than likely and needs to be offered that chance.....Has he looked bonafide this yr...no....has shown signs at times, but as mentioned has been hampered by scheme...OC/coaching and supporting cast He looked worlds different in his start he had basically 2 weeks to prep for, and if handed it over to him now and sole prep time....who knows, but we need to adapt who we use/what we do on offence and actually put in the coaching and prep work OC needs to wisen up...create a plan that caters to his strengths and others right now and if we have to pare down the playbook to what works...and what we do well...A lot of it is with BO dominance in varying ways....and work off that...Not much more we can do really...nobody is gonna float us a starter, and trotting ZC out there anytime soon is about as dumb...or dumber than us trotting out Schoen. He and the team need to think of ZC longterm health now....guy got knockedthefuck out last game....compounding the other huge shots he's took Fortify our defence with the best guys we have available that can create havoc/confusion Manage the offence with our bread abd butter and tailor it accordingly, and not try to be fancy The remainder of the season and any success we may have in play-offs (and I believe we can have some) is completely in coach's hands now...Time to show they deserve the accolades many give them, and coach this team and make the smart choices/moves 2/3rds of the season in the books surely has been enough time to figure it out and see who/what is the issues

which is fine....you adjust ratio geared toward your talent and roster...I'd easily flip ratio positions if it helps team..Thats what good smart coaches do...you dont let a talent walk out the door cause you like a guy like Thomas...Kolo....etc Osh....not so much...to him it is what it is no opinion or idea is necessarily a bad one.....save for the insanely absurd one....They all should carry weight and consideration

Yeah...I know you are on this "no plsyer is 100 percent" kick ..but cmon now your just being foolish And yeah.. there are a lot of guys still 100 percent and good majority other than the typical bumps..bruises and fatigue of a season who are as good as you can be And really....why have an IR...1 game or 6 then? Any guy on it will say "yeah I can play" or "i will give it a try for the team" And guys without having had surgery...let one retorn previous recent surgery Anyone who thinks only Schoen was willing is dumber than I give a lot of yiu credit for being then Why didnt we play Makonzo....Woods...Kramdi....Case...and others...? Why Schoen...why this particular guy? A guy who missed a yr...then retore what just got fixed...and it wasnt partial...it was 100 percent torn...and seeing as we now shut him down...msy have made something worse...or else why not continue the lunacy? Answer me that. Everyone is a starter ..as we told...so why risk further...or God forbid permanent damage on basically our marquee reciever? 2 reasons...desperation due to lousy roster Or stupidity....take your pick Same for multiple positions

Id rather be roster efficiency and evaluation... @wbbfan and @GCn20 can coordinate Id give em what they need

Yeah...spell checked me...lol...no worries Yeah...you are classic.....

Wow...regurgitation of what I said re Marve...and others earlier....kool aide aside...whatevet that means...he who likes to serve his personal brand of kool aide....Elway had none in left knee But Schoen retore his...a freshly repaired one...no rehab on the 6 game is gonna fix that. Partial torn and braced sure...u can manage...but you're playing damaged goods so why bother and delay actual recovery? Put in a player who is 100 percent Youde think our braintrust would have learned from 3 consecutive failures playing hurt damaged players...no? Surely your kool aide is of similar flavor? Also...manageable...and ideal/optimal are nowhere clear to be close

The two that were part of this success were far from hotshots...point? That's why you start at HC like the overwhelming majority of teams in all sports leagues do What g.m candidate is gonna come in and agree to take over a team and not be allowed to shape it in his vision...and it starts with HC

Lately tho...not far off There was no reason for Schoen to try that tho..hes still young...wouldn't have made difference...and was just delaying the inevitable...surgery required

Dline rotation yeah is huge...if its with guys who can play...and their dline is primary American...they have a global...and the one Canadian they drafted...but they also get minimal reps out of the 9 they listed And our Cdn starters with reg reps on defence are weakest in league save for Lawson...there is that too

Yup...target mid section He didn't need to target the collar bone area U don't need to.be hit in the head directly to be concussed...that's probably why...its the sudden stop of the body and brain stays in motion and slams into skull....

There was no point in it...and usually too a braced attempt is more on lineman...not skilled position guys...and what good woukd a guy less than capable be?? And then surgery post sesson...and miss the whole next...if he has surgery after we exit season...and won't be late Nov...he won't be ready for 2026 I like how your take is supposed better than anyone else and everyone else's is wrong...have you played with an acl injury...before it...after it...and had surgery...and played again?...just curious... Why didnt we brace him up last yr then...or Parker...or Bonds this yr...Biggie....cause its stupid We tried it after he retore a fresh repair cause we woefully weak and lacking talent and depth...and woefully inept at rostering ...that's not an excuse or reason for what we tried...it was desperation at its finest Also...detail everytimes its been done here...seeing as its so often

No...get it fixed...and appropriate rehab...feom cgy game on...that didnt occur There's a.diff between sprains and strains...bumps and bruises...broken bones...and tendons requiring season ending surgery You can play thru...and rehab without surgery sprains and strains...breaks...etc...the latter...no I played 2 seasons with a cast on hand...cause you can Blew knee out 2x....surgery...rehab...slow integration back to part time...then full bore usage Lig...tendon...both require surgery...and thanks for the tip but been thru what Strev has...and once just acl....also a patella issue once too...and was a kinesiology student...so have a decent idea of whats what...sorry for my typo Grammer police 😁

Exactly...regardless what a player says or wants...you have to thank him for his passion and desire..but put him...and key word "team" first U can't rehab a torn acl...u need to surgically repair it...so this "he rehabbed it as best he could" so he could play is a heap of crap Re-tearing a surgically repaired tendon basically last yr post surgery...should be an automatic back to surgery ASAP and fix it and start "actual" rehab Why delay it...for sub par play...and then pooching the whole next season?

Complacency started with coaching...and seaped into the players as a result Part our problem is designating where/who we were using with ratio...and that was that...set in stone...and due to that let probably better...and obviously younger talent go...stayed with status quo...in some instances sub par players...or old and injury prone and didnt develop anyone We also for whatever lame reason insist on extra Canadians where they are not adequate..no offense to Canadians but there only so many who are legit starter quality...we have prob 3..4 on roster who are not...and then we need to roster backup to them as Canadian who are even worse...bad recipe...that's what u gonna also get with a Canadian HC who has this Canadian Bias and seems to be wanting to prove some kind of point...which has failed We need to set ratio as per how camp dictates and the best guys take spots...not pre determine it before a single rep in camp takes place...and that goes with our vets too That's where we gotta start...and in a semi rebuild/gutting...history in pro football has shown 80% of time you start with Coach...and that's what we need to do...12 yrs is eons as a HC in same spot...especially a stubborn and at times arrogant one who thinks his way...is the way and won't deviate Wj is a good piece...key word piece and is only as good as players around him...and for most part they not good...or the better ones can't get on roster...he needs to be the augment rotation guy now to continually spell of 2 young studs All the good dominant teams focus on pretty much mostly import dlines...save for the random Cdn stud...we have no real cdn stud...dress 2 additional duds...and play them ad nauseum for no effect...basically nullify our ends...then play a stupid scheme teams have figured out... There's a start Also...maybe we need to facilitate a trade with an asset or 2...or a guy we all love to infuse some talent in a key position or 2 That or don't treat FA like we did this yr.. Cause they play legit studs...mainly Americans and don't over use weak Canadians Also...those teams don't continually rotate guys in and out like we do...switching positions...nobody...especially on the dline allowed to.get in a groove or rhythm

And coaching sucks...and refuse to change anything Only change we will see is at qb and again...only cause of injury Osh truly thinks we got a winner...and they doing all the right things and it will just work out....cause it did before...he is completely clueless Read above...that be the only change...and honestly...based on history they probably trot ZC out there Barely

Whole team is built poorly...gm AND coach to blame. Time to wipe both clean

The whole off season was odd...and off

Is it just that...or poorly coached too...and not put in positions to.succed...or a lil of both I'd say 60/40...60 on coaching ...40 on players under performance...then again that can be 100 attributed to coaching...as they rostered them We need major changing...players...coaching...and our philosophy on how to go about things Its coaching....and the lack of awareness to see certain players are not good enough...and reluctance to try others...

Aka...roster....rostering