Booch

Clercius has been dressed last 2 games but rarely gets to see field behind uselesd cobb and nield Yes..can't fault a guy who's coach chooses to play 2 slugs in front of him Any updates in practice today..or yesterday...or we even practicing?

yeah Stan wasnt as bad...still not better than adequate tho..can he up his game more...Guess we shall see as we know Osh wont sit him...I think flip flopping him and Broxton makes sense tho...If anything to see Our interior tho needs a tweak....Elsbury just isnt pushing the needle and as an import he needs to be.

well then as the second leading receiver on team...should he have been kept and all other below him not...based on that logic? 2024 he was a bit player...not a consistent starter...and also saying a big game here and there for any player is skewwing anything is kinda lame...obviously in that game...and all the in game circumstances that occured that player stepped up...no?...and what did other guys average after a biug game...u need to add context to your evidence..what was game plan?..who was the focal point...what did teams do to take away certain players...who may have been knicked up..so was more a decoy?...a lot to add to how stats panned out And for a team to go 3 canadians when not equiped to go 2 when an import by your logic "fell off" is the stupidest theory...ever While stats don't tell the whole story, especially when you cherry pick games...or blocks of games...stats over the course of several yrs do...show a trend and also what a guy can do/should do for you based on full season last year..the culmative info shows he was 2nd on team, one the higher averages per catch Culmative this yr..Has a better per yards than anyone on our team...Is close in terms of yards to our top 3...Has a better catch percentage than Wilson..and basically on par with White Compare that now with the whole picture for Nield...Cobb...Corcorran(tho we wised up and cut him) Who has better "culmative" stats...and yes that matters?...And who based on that would offer us more? Again...He was not suggested to be "the guy" but a piece of the picture...and Again White was not signed off scrap heap to replace Wheatfall...he was signed to replace whoever or whatever was our number 1 last yr...I guess Schoen...the guy who's career we wrecked cause again we had zero depth Likely a 4th place one at best...

yup...Some guys may not wanna come here, just as some may wanna come Tho in my opinion...we won last week...but not in a way to give any optimism...so you can bet your life there will be zero changes...even tho we desperately need some Good thing it was Ottawa in all honesty as any other team likely we would have lost, and coulda been the start of a long winless skid...Next week may be it anyway if we just roll in status quo and look unprepared to start again

Would it be safe to say our number 1 guy last yr disappeared too?...Barely 1000 yards...less yards per catch than Wheatfall....Makes 225k...or is it more? 6 years older on wrong side of 30...just for context And compare that to other teams' number 1 highest paid guys...many of whom make less....people will say yeah but last year offence was a mess to justify Demski's really average yr so for some to crap on Wheatfalls production...2nd on the team at that is kind of lame...How many teams from last yr cut/let walk their 2nd leading receiver...to replace with essentially just a place taker on their roster??..I bet none

who didnt disappears yr tho?...As a first yr starter...in 16 games...as essentially a 3rd option at best how is 655 yards..4 td's and 15.7 yards per catch considered a throw away? Especially in our crap system last yr? Hate to keep harping and saying the same thing but the argument was not him being a 1A and a guy who would take us to the promised land...but augment our group...give others some space and if we did find better in camp he could be easily cut and cost us nothing in process....Our crew is worse than last yr really as we have 2 spots doing absolutely nothing Saying he played himself off the team is kind of a dumb statement,,,and White isnt Wheatfalls replacement...He's Schoen replacement...or whoever was considered out number 1....If White was to be a 3rd..4th guys replacement...who is our legit number 1...game breaker?...Thats what White was signed as and touted for not even just gave up...hardly given the chance...His first yr shouldnt be a factor as he was really a bit player...but last yr in a Hogan offence he certainly didnt fall on his face...Not his fault our scheme and QB'ing was crap

ol school of rock reference eh?,,,hahaha

Pretty sure there is nothing JT can offer WJ..Ceresna..and Lawson..nor would he be much use teaching a Reese ..Jenkins..Dixon..Fletcher anything in regards to technique or skill off the edge Even a young interior guy..Thomas had little if any technique..no hand skills. How he gonna teach and show anything he didnt posses?

Wheatfall costs peanuts in the whole scheme of things..it wasnt a this or that situation..just piss poor planning and forward thinking You dont go 3 canadians when you hardly have depth for 2..thats just stupid...even more stupid when you dont have to in order to meet ratio Demski disappears for stretches..Nield hasn't even appeared yet..other recievers on teams dissappear...its just how games go at times We made a dumb decision to go 3 canadians knowing we didnt have depth to..then didnt draft any..and only went after 1 in FA...wheres the logic there? He's better than several of our current guys tho..and garners attention..he didn't need to be the number 1...but he would make us better The fact tho that the best reciever in camp..and in 2 preseason games is rotting on the PR as our group basically sucks..tells us all we need to know about the intelligence of the coaching staff

Yeah.. seems coach and gm not on same page..or they are then 1 of em is deviating...

Well its narrowed down a bit then..and was stupid decision wherever it came from

Yeah he did..but why? Was it his HC said he didnt want him or think he good enough..so he obliged? Was it osh begged for him to stay..but walters had other idea? Was it Wheatfall said eff you Osh i dont like the way things went here? All possible reasons.. Will we ever know? Likely not...but based on game day rosters we have seen..player use...and non use..dumb in game decisions...like not giving BOLO a single snap on Grey Cup when we had 3 recievers who couldn't run let alone be effective in anyway.. so he left on his own accord..not we didn't want him, I lean more to the side that it was Osh's preference to go a different direction The argument re: wheatfall is if we had retained him he would..and in effect the offence morph into a juggernaut..thats not it..but his presence over 2 others that are starting would 100 percent make us a better group and not worst in the league..and likely in effect allow Demski/White/Wilson more space to up their production

He would tho over cobb..corc..neild tho..he didn't need to be a true #1 ..just a guy who can make big plays and take attention away from the aforementioned..

People here try to defend it by basing things on last yr...and in that poor offence a basically 1st yr starter for us as not the main target pulled in 655 yards in 16 games..4 tds and almost 16 yards per catch..to say he was a bust and wouldn't help us here over what Cobb..Nield...Corcoran have given us is just plain nonsense Should have been retained to at least compete and if we found something better...well thats a plus and he could be let go or solid backup..now we have several guys playing who offer less...thats sound roster management if I ever seen it

Broxton does play that alot...much like Yoshi did...does

All starters...and they here cause they give us a chance to win..how many times we heard that? Yet no starter gets yanked for a different "starter" for poor play...or no "starter" gets to play when a starter is injured or knicked...we will play a less than 100 percent guy over these other starters...or just bump up a guy like Kelly or Ball to take starter snaps...make that make sense Thats why I been saying that half the garbage that comes out of that smug face is horse crap b.s...and shouldn't even be taken as serious...it its just garble babbling of a person with no clue...take your pick

True...in all honesty our dline work..most the lb work especially now with healthy Woodbey and Smith finally playing is actually not bad..get...I hope late in yr Griffin back and give tjose 3 the lionshare of reps we are pretty good That defensive backfield is our Achilles.. our scheme isnt helping but if we used..and or built or roster better and didnt use those excessive cansdians it also help...they just aren't skill wise and body wise good for the role Also.. with Kelly..Holm..Moxey..we are a bunch of for lack of better description a group of lightweight pansies...no team has any concern running free through our short to intermediate zones..do as they wish..not a concern to keep head on swivel and play tentative..why would they? And I sure the shoddy tackling is noted and accounted for to just get ball in their hands and likely you gonna get yac

Even at right tackle he would be more effective...flip flop him and Broxton if we have no balls to make the tuff decisions

We could use Perkins in similar fashion.. he has mobility and escapability and a more accurate arm than Ford I wish we had some packages for him and give him extended reps in a drive after short yardage like we did with Strev the first yr before we ruined him I bet Perkins would be way more successful too..and gives him valuable reps to truly compete in 2027 for starter job...its not like hes some old non athletic kinda no upside guy We should also run some 2Qb sets too with him..prob be pretty successful too

Griffin for Kramdi..who was lauded on here as some kind of master out there...just cause osh said The difference in play was huge...Kramdi could only dream he played half that effectively as Griffin Imagine if some other spots got same kinda switch...u just never know unless u try..but just those 2 examples says alot as it was apparent they were better I bet swapping out Wilson or Jones for ayers or woodbey full time too would have the same impact..u see it already in Woodbeys rotation reps But those are osh vets and his bois..sad that someone has to go Tanya Harding on anyone for them to get replaced due to inferior talent...but in the osh world it is

Smith..woodbey..Griffin would make a top unit... with Ayers as the rotation/swing guy...

Most recievers are good when on and dissappear for games.. and multitude of reasons for it too..not specific to talent Demski has many many times...Adams used to..Lawler...Hatcher...just how games go. Neild has disappeared all yr...and anyone who says retaining wheatfall for the 5 spot..or even Neilds spot wouldn't make us better has rocks in their head..there was no reason to dump him after really 1 full yr...he was cheap and coulda been brought to camp and yeah if u found someone better easily cut..no harm...no foul...but to dispose of a starter with no sure plan to replace...stupid

Essentially the center calls it out..others can and may have..but nobody responded..also that was a true brain dead zc moment..he needs to be better if for anything his own self preservation And where was BO..out on a stupid split wide formation..I dont recall and also another in the long line of stupid reasons to do that too much...I woukdnt be shocked if ott schemed that and if they saw BO split out to overload the edge knowing the guy who pick that up wasn't there..essentialy another teams coaxhing eating our lunch

And therein is our issue...Osh won't make changes...and i think he truly can't recognize deficiencies...thats a problem

That crunch on ZC is no way on Stan..he may have called out the free backside guy..and nobody responded..he takes that guy..then the inside guy comes in even faster for a free shot. ZC too is to blame..a vet of his tenure should have saw that and either adjusted...or got on his horse on a sprint out...doesn't help either that he rarely even reads the side of field pre snap that the ball isnt intended to go to. Bryant has deserved some of the British this yr...not all...and def not that crunch on ZC