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Gotta be $. Although, and I know this isn't a popular opinion, I think he is pretty over rated.

Gotta be $. Although, and I know this isn't a popular opinion, I think he is pretty over rated.

Gotta be $. Although, and I know this isn't a popular opinion, I think he is pretty over rated.

Elgersma (if his agents had half a brain) should come here ASAP, train hard, work hard, and be ready if there is an injury to Collaros. Should he have the ability to dominate our game he has the same earning potential as Rourke at much shorter odds than the NFL. He can parlay his career into something that grosses him 7-8 million before he hangs them up but he's gonna have to take lumps for at least the first year of that. I can confidently, and with 100% certainty tell you that 7-8 million in the CFL will far outweigh any potential career earnings in the NFL he is dreaming about. We keep talking about the low salary he will make this year, while forgetting that is inevitable and shaving a potential 750k a year (if he were a quality CDN starter) off his career earnings and if he isn't a quality CDN starter in our league, then waiting for the NFL has no point either.
That is the case with most football players. Not many go out when they should. Most need to be told, and that's just the make up of a football player really.

That could be said to some extent about any coach ever. No coach succeeds consistently without talent provided.

Gotta be $. Although, and I know this isn't a popular opinion, I think he is pretty over rated.

Elgersma (if his agents had half a brain) should come here ASAP, train hard, work hard, and be ready if there is an injury to Collaros. Should he have the ability to dominate our game he has the same earning potential as Rourke at much shorter odds than the NFL. He can parlay his career into something that grosses him 7-8 million before he hangs them up but he's gonna have to take lumps for at least the first year of that. I can confidently, and with 100% certainty tell you that 7-8 million in the CFL will far outweigh any potential career earnings in the NFL he is dreaming about. We keep talking about the low salary he will make this year, while forgetting that is inevitable and shaving a potential 750k a year (if he were a quality CDN starter) off his career earnings and if he isn't a quality CDN starter in our league, then waiting for the NFL has no point either.
That is the case with most football players. Not many go out when they should. Most need to be told, and that's just the make up of a football player really.

No way Paddy could play OT for anything more than an emergency now. He bulked up to play in the interior, then he bulked up some more when he discovered Tim Horton's lol.

Walby played in a different era.

Walby played in a different era.

It was a very curious decision to put that in place given we were just starting to see a vast talent drain after the NFL's PR expansion.

With the NFL now grabbing and sitting on a ton of NAT OL due to expanded PR sizes and eligibility, we just don't have the luxury of an all NAT OL in this league anymore. We lose the top of our draft every year to them and it takes years, in many cases, for these guys to shake loose now. Double that up with the insane 3 year entry level pay rates for draftees and you get every NAT OL who even gets a whiff of the NFL, even though they are just signed to futures contracts which translates almost to guaranteed to get cut, going and playing long odds to sit on an NFL PR. The CFL needs to drop the salary provisions on the entry level deal. We are delaying getting our draftees here because they are willing to roll the dice rather than play for peanuts.

Elgersma will be here when he gets here. Not worried about that at all. He's got an agent blowing sunshine up his arse right now, so let's dial it back a bit about how he will never play here. Reality will set in, and he will come.
We can go 3 NAT receivers but there is no requirement to do so if we go 3 IMP OL. We can make ratio in other places or even use the naturalized IMP rule.

I'm not against the guy, I just have not seen him offer much of anything when he is in the lineup. Would love to know what they see in him. Not saying there isn't something there it's just not obvious.
Sure. But if we are going 3 NAT receivers then he should not be front line depth. It is essential that we have a guy who can produce if that is our plan. Just a body is not good enough. No different that Jake Thomas the past few years, if we had kept him down to 8-10 snaps a game no one would be complaining but he got thrust into a starting role and became a glaring weak spot for us. Are you comfortable with Corcoran coming off the bench to be a potential starter if any of our 3 starting NATs go down. I'm not.

Totally agree. I don't understand why the hell they even capped it. Cap year one if you must, then allow teams to renegotiate the contract if they so choose.

I'm not against the guy, I just have not seen him offer much of anything when he is in the lineup. Would love to know what they see in him. Not saying there isn't something there it's just not obvious.
Sure. But if we are going 3 NAT receivers then he should not be front line depth. It is essential that we have a guy who can produce if that is our plan. Just a body is not good enough. No different that Jake Thomas the past few years, if we had kept him down to 8-10 snaps a game no one would be complaining but he got thrust into a starting role and became a glaring weak spot for us. Are you comfortable with Corcoran coming off the bench to be a potential starter if any of our 3 starting NATs go down. I'm not.

NAT OL, or any other starting NAT, is going to make more than most IMPs at the same or similar position.
I liked Walters presser. I like how he confirmed that we will be seeing a lot of 30 front this year and that was one of the reasons he went hard after Ceresna. It seemed like this was the probability when we signed Ceresna and then JSK afterwards. I know a lot of us here don't care for 30 front, but if you got the right pieces it can be a very good defence against the passing game. Last year we just didn't have the horses. With Ceresna here, and more Lawson, we should be able to execute it at a much higher level. I think this would give Jaworski a big edge in camp for the other DE spot as well.

NAT OL, or any other starting NAT, is going to make more than most IMPs at the same or similar position.
I liked Walters presser. I like how he confirmed that we will be seeing a lot of 30 front this year and that was one of the reasons he went hard after Ceresna. It seemed like this was the probability when we signed Ceresna and then JSK afterwards. I know a lot of us here don't care for 30 front, but if you got the right pieces it can be a very good defence against the passing game. Last year we just didn't have the horses. With Ceresna here, and more Lawson, we should be able to execute it at a much higher level. I think this would give Jaworski a big edge in camp for the other DE spot as well.

I don't blame Elgersma one bit. The insane NAT draftee 3 year entry level deal is a joke.

Elgersma will be here when he gets here. Not worried about that at all. He's got an agent blowing sunshine up his arse right now, so let's dial it back a bit about how he will never play here. Reality will set in, and he will come.
We can go 3 NAT receivers but there is no requirement to do so if we go 3 IMP OL. We can make ratio in other places or even use the naturalized IMP rule.

With the NFL now grabbing and sitting on a ton of NAT OL due to expanded PR sizes and eligibility, we just don't have the luxury of an all NAT OL in this league anymore. We lose the top of our draft every year to them and it takes years, in many cases, for these guys to shake loose now. Double that up with the insane 3 year entry level pay rates for draftees and you get every NAT OL who even gets a whiff of the NFL, even though they are just signed to futures contracts which translates almost to guaranteed to get cut, going and playing long odds to sit on an NFL PR. The CFL needs to drop the salary provisions on the entry level deal. We are delaying getting our draftees here because they are willing to roll the dice rather than play for peanuts.

NAT OL, or any other starting NAT, is going to make more than most IMPs at the same or similar position.
I liked Walters presser. I like how he confirmed that we will be seeing a lot of 30 front this year and that was one of the reasons he went hard after Ceresna. It seemed like this was the probability when we signed Ceresna and then JSK afterwards. I know a lot of us here don't care for 30 front, but if you got the right pieces it can be a very good defence against the passing game. Last year we just didn't have the horses. With Ceresna here, and more Lawson, we should be able to execute it at a much higher level. I think this would give Jaworski a big edge in camp for the other DE spot as well.

UFL contracts mean nothing. They are optional by the player. According to 3DN he's waiting for the CFL phone to ring.

He gets pushed off his routes quite a bit, if he can make some hay winning more within the first 5 yards of scrimmage he could be a 1000 guy.

I like Walter's work this yr, and he is kinda setting the table and taking away some of the past inefficiencies...that being said, until shown different from Osh....I just cant trust yet in him doing the right thing...let alone the smartest, and you nailed it and if JSK has to take a back seat to any one of Jones and Wilson....then Osh should get and deserve all the crticism possible
I think we may see a lot of variations of the 30...Ceresna can handle "some" nose but not ideal...so hopefully we unearth a body mover/consumer
Cersena tho in a legit 30 would be a really nice piece on one end for reps, and if we have the legit nose will thrive in that part of his role...he did before already
Gonna be interesting what JY cooks up as our kind of defensive identity/base...We seem to be piling up a glut of larger bodied LB's for this camp and how they all shake out and who/what is kept is gonna be interesting