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Except that isn't what he said.

You might be right, you might be wrong. None of us can know with any certainty right now as to how well JT can do. Anybody saying they know for sure he will fail or succeed is straight up showing bias. Hey, if the DL shows no improvement I'll call for his head. Bombers first....always. What I won't do is not give him a chance.
Maybe he is exactly the coach we need and this turns out to be a great hire. Right now that is as feasible as him failing. Every coach who ever becomes a coach is because someone saw something in them and took a chance. Let's give him that chance too before declaring this a poor hire. He's off the field now....no reason to dislike him anymore.

Problem players? Why cause he aged out and he was asked to do too much at his age? I don't follow your logic here? JT executed the plan he was given to the best of his ability...how is that a problem player? As for Hogan having the best RB in the league, yes that certainly helps but he also helped develop BO into that. BO didn't enter the league as the best. You guys are literally hating on JT himself because the coach tapped him on the shoulder to go in and play and he did. I understand not liking him being on the field but you guys need to tone down the overall Jake hate. He's a 13 year retired veteran now who is taking an entry level coaching job for the only team he ever played for. Why are you inventing narrative about this?

You realize that Hogan was our RB coach before when BO had his best years right?
 
I think these are great moves for our organization.

He can't be as bad as Patterson was and if it takes him off the field it's a double win. Are you seriously complaining about this? Jake is a long time veteran DL of our club and league, he has a ton he can teach. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be a good coach but excluding his chances of being one based on his playing career doesn't make sense either. Look at Ryan Dinwiddie, guy was a career backup and barely at that and is a great coach. I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the same time get rid of Patterson who was god awful.

I agree he played badly, but that is mostly because of his own physical limitations. From all accounts through the years he was a very smart player that had physical limits. I think he might be a very good coach.
I think that BO's problem was the play calling of Hogan, not with the man himself. Pros can make the differentiation.
Could be because Hogan was a very good RB coach for us before.
Why not give Jake a chance? What do you know of his ability to do that? Nothing. Just assumptions. No consequences of mediocrity? Tell that to the guy Jake just replaced or the demoted Hogan. They are feeling the consequences.

He can't be as bad as Patterson was and if it takes him off the field it's a double win. Are you seriously complaining about this? Jake is a long time veteran DL of our club and league, he has a ton he can teach. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be a good coach but excluding his chances of being one based on his playing career doesn't make sense either. Look at Ryan Dinwiddie, guy was a career backup and barely at that and is a great coach. I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the same time get rid of Patterson who was god awful.

Exactly, I really don't understand the level of hate for Jake Thomas with some around here. Was he good the last few years? Nope. but it's not like he didn't try or bleed blue and gold. We are literally suggesting that the club should have cut ties with him permanently because he was too old to play well anymore and that is absolutely nuts. Some guys have gone off the deep end on the Jake Thomas hate train around here. I don't know if he will be a good coach, but I can't see any reason why he might not be. We'll see. We need to at least give him a chance.
Exactly. He stepped aside as a player and we still get the benefit of his experience and locker room worth. I can't believe people are viewing this so negatively.

You realize that Hogan was our RB coach before when BO had his best years right?
 
I think these are great moves for our organization.

He can't be as bad as Patterson was and if it takes him off the field it's a double win. Are you seriously complaining about this? Jake is a long time veteran DL of our club and league, he has a ton he can teach. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be a good coach but excluding his chances of being one based on his playing career doesn't make sense either. Look at Ryan Dinwiddie, guy was a career backup and barely at that and is a great coach. I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the same time get rid of Patterson who was god awful.

He can't be as bad as Patterson was and if it takes him off the field it's a double win. Are you seriously complaining about this? Jake is a long time veteran DL of our club and league, he has a ton he can teach. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be a good coach but excluding his chances of being one based on his playing career doesn't make sense either. Look at Ryan Dinwiddie, guy was a career backup and barely at that and is a great coach. I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the same time get rid of Patterson who was god awful.

Might be the case with Manu as well if he stays South for an extended period. Mulumba tried to force us to trade him, we told him to retire. If Manu is a quitter like Mulumba he can do the same, if he wants to play it's with us OR we trade him on our terms.

True. His loss in that case. We can trade him or tell him to retire then like we did with Mulumba

Some of the contracts have been baffling for sure.

Sounds like they like Fajardo more than Kelly. Tells me all I need to know about how Kelly is perceived around the league.

Player quality does not equate to coach quality. There is no correlation whatsoever. Quit trying to sell that as a reason to criticize this move. One has nothing to do with the other. 

Honestly Booch has hated Jake Thomas for years, even when he was a serviceable backup player. Just hates guys with limited athletic ability who succeed anyway. 
I say give Jake a chance in this role and see how he does with it.
 

You might be right, you might be wrong. None of us can know with any certainty right now as to how well JT can do. Anybody saying they know for sure he will fail or succeed is straight up showing bias. Hey, if the DL shows no improvement I'll call for his head. Bombers first....always. What I won't do is not give him a chance.
Maybe he is exactly the coach we need and this turns out to be a great hire. Right now that is as feasible as him failing. Every coach who ever becomes a coach is because someone saw something in them and took a chance. Let's give him that chance too before declaring this a poor hire. He's off the field now....no reason to dislike him anymore.

Player quality does not equate to coach quality. There is no correlation whatsoever. Quit trying to sell that as a reason to criticize this move. One has nothing to do with the other. 

You realize that Hogan was our RB coach before when BO had his best years right?
 
I think these are great moves for our organization.

Tell that to Patterson. You guys keep suggesting that OSH never moves on from anyone, until he does and then pretend it didn't happen. Hogan may have been a mental health cheerleader but it worked and quite frankly BO needs it.
McManus is the best for sure. We can dream.

You might be right, you might be wrong. None of us can know with any certainty right now as to how well JT can do. Anybody saying they know for sure he will fail or succeed is straight up showing bias. Hey, if the DL shows no improvement I'll call for his head. Bombers first....always. What I won't do is not give him a chance.
Maybe he is exactly the coach we need and this turns out to be a great hire. Right now that is as feasible as him failing. Every coach who ever becomes a coach is because someone saw something in them and took a chance. Let's give him that chance too before declaring this a poor hire. He's off the field now....no reason to dislike him anymore.

Stegall always said his ego would never allow him to be a good coach. He is very self aware in that regard.

Problem players? Why cause he aged out and he was asked to do too much at his age? I don't follow your logic here? JT executed the plan he was given to the best of his ability...how is that a problem player? As for Hogan having the best RB in the league, yes that certainly helps but he also helped develop BO into that. BO didn't enter the league as the best. You guys are literally hating on JT himself because the coach tapped him on the shoulder to go in and play and he did. I understand not liking him being on the field but you guys need to tone down the overall Jake hate. He's a 13 year retired veteran now who is taking an entry level coaching job for the only team he ever played for. Why are you inventing narrative about this?

Exactly, I really don't understand the level of hate for Jake Thomas with some around here. Was he good the last few years? Nope. but it's not like he didn't try or bleed blue and gold. We are literally suggesting that the club should have cut ties with him permanently because he was too old to play well anymore and that is absolutely nuts. Some guys have gone off the deep end on the Jake Thomas hate train around here. I don't know if he will be a good coach, but I can't see any reason why he might not be. We'll see. We need to at least give him a chance.
Exactly. He stepped aside as a player and we still get the benefit of his experience and locker room worth. I can't believe people are viewing this so negatively.