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Mike Kelly says "call me and we can chat".

Mike Kelly says "call me and we can chat".

That's not true. They ranged from showing well to ineffective. Look, no coach keeps crappy rookies out of camp over a clearly better player. You never know what you got exactly until they are under the Friday Night lights but you will never convince me that the newbies we kept were kept for any other reason than they looked the best in camp to not just OSH but the concensus of all our coaching staff, scouts and management. Cut down day all of these people weigh in on that, However, I am in agreement that many roster moves were baffling sometimes. I don't post this to exonerate MOS, he needs to be much better, I post my criticism of KW because some ppl are trying to give him a free pass after doing a horrible job because they want the focus to stay solely on MOS. KW and MOS, and their entire dynamic, is a problem and one that KW ultimately is the only guy that can resolve it. HE MUST DO HIS JOB BETTER. That means making MOS doing his job better as well. People are forgetting who the bottom line is on a **** season like last year. The GM has to wear it. If it was coaching then the coach should have been fired. It's that simple. You can spread the blame around certainly for last year but no one can try and paint KW as a victim of circumstance. That's BS.
It absolutely is both men and furthermore the dynamic that has developed between them. At the end of the day though, only one man has the power to change that dynamic. You can't nlame an employee for being able to run over the boss. 

That was NOT a report, that was SPECULATION. There is absolutely no source that anyone can point to that suggests KW is some powerless dupe stuck in the middle. Let's be clear on that. There is nothing to substantiate any of that and therefore it is not fact, it is purely speculation. Miller is a smart businessman, that we know, Walters can be a very good GM, that we know, MOS can also be a very good coach that we know. What none of us know is why there seems to be a disconnect and who is to blame. It is just as likely that KW was burnt out and underachieving, or just decided to say F it MOS can do what he wants. That's not power struggle that;s lazy and there is a big difference in culpability.

Walters who saw us go from the elite team to pretender wears the bottom line for all of it. He is the boss. Everything that is done in our organization falls on him. If Osh's handling of the roster is costing us, that's on Walters to address. You guys just want to hand the guy whose responsibility it is to have a championship roster a free pass and that's BS.
He has not provided a championship calibre roster. If your measure of his success is that a couple DE's played great in an exhibition game, Woodbey, and Allen then it's no wonder he's getting this free pass. Talent lost FAR outweighs talent brought in thus our decline. We can say he was in roster maintenance mode, but again that's not what good GM's do and money is only an object if you do boneheaded things like pay a RB 250k and couple it with an over the hill QB making 600k. Is that on MOS too.  As for money to spend, that's entirely and 100% Walters doing or undoing if you will. He controls the SMS and how it's spent.
I still can't believe people are still trying to justify the crap job our front office has done over the past three years with last year being an absolute abomination. Vaval, Allen, Woodbey are a bare minimum for any team for an offseason. 
That being said I think Walters is a top notch GM when he applies himself. I think he got fat and sassy the past few years.  I trust he can rebuild, what I don't trust is his recognition of need to do so. He has been far too happy to let talent go over the past several years without bringing equal amounts of talent back. That has to change....like right freaking now.
This rule was written specifically for the Toronto Argos when they were spending like drunken sailors for a couple years. That's my theory anyway.

There is a kind of loose justification every team must give the league for the marketing money. According to most reports I've read about the justification to the league it is pretty close to "trust me bro".

Bo and Harris looked equally as washed two years ago. That gives me hope. Like any other QB on the planet ZC will go as far as his supporting cast allows. Bo and Harris's "resurgence" is entirely because their respective teams surrounded them with talent and protection.

There is a kind of loose justification every team must give the league for the marketing money. According to most reports I've read about the justification to the league it is pretty close to "trust me bro".

There is a kind of loose justification every team must give the league for the marketing money. According to most reports I've read about the justification to the league it is pretty close to "trust me bro".

Yep, the only limit is that the team has to be able to justify the amount of marketing money being paid to a player.  If BC was allowed to give Rourke 200k, the Bombers should have no problems giving Brady a good chunk either.  

Yeah take advantage of the fact we have been pulling in the cash...reward the fans for that support

If there is no limit on market money, the Bombers should use it extensively. Club has been making bank the past few years.

As I stated in my last post, SMS impact is my secondary concern on this proposed contract. Almost all of the 3 year contracts being signed now in the CFL are done so that there is a large portion of year 3 guaranteed. That could be a disaster SMS wise down the road. If he wasn't a RB I wouldn't hate it as much, but you and I both know 3 years for a RB is like signing a receiver and offering him guaranteed money in year 10. The odds are higher that the contract will hamper than they are of it working out.

Is it just me or does it seem counterintuitive to pay up for the "ratio breakers" with the way O'Shea uses his roster? 
 
Don't get me wrong, I know the CFL is all about how good your Canadian talent is, but part of me thinks there's no point paying 250k+ for a star Canadian RB/DB/WR/whatever because we aren't maximizing our roster with the ratio to play the most American talent anyways.
With the way MOS just plays 8-9+ marginal Canadian starters and rotates in 3-4 more, we'd almost be better off with 10-12 good but not great Canadians and save our money overpaying for the Canadian starter at a non-traditional position.  I wish we would utilize the fact that we have the luxury of a Canadian RB by using the extra American on the DL or OL, but instead most games we just trot out 7+ more Canadians at the regular spots too...  

Biggest offseason in a decade was last offseason and they screwed it up pretty badly, this is the most urgent offseason in a decade though, and I really hope they understand that.

I am in agreement on Walters performance. He has overseen a massive talent decline since 2021. I wanted him gone this offseason as well and am not particlularly happy he is back. That being said, he's who we got, and from 2013-2020 he did a pretty decent job. He needs to get back to that and I will be happy. If he repeats the same failures as the past few years we are in trouble.
I am hoping the Canadian mafia got a big dose of reality this season and enter this offseason understanding that the work needs to be put in, and that we must utilize all potential advantages in order to win. Walters can't sit back and not be active this offseason, must make tough decisions on players even if it pisses MOS off, and MOS must be willing to utilize the naturalized import rule, and say goodbye to some of the guys he has favored for too long. If we do that we can start climbing up the hill again....maybe even rapidly. It seems to me that they got too comfortable and forgot that winning is more than running it back.

Biggest offseason in a decade was last offseason and they screwed it up pretty badly, this is the most urgent offseason in a decade though, and I really hope they understand that.

Biggest offseason in a decade was last offseason and they screwed it up pretty badly, this is the most urgent offseason in a decade though, and I really hope they understand that.

Biggest offseason in a decade was last offseason and they screwed it up pretty badly, this is the most urgent offseason in a decade though, and I really hope they understand that.

I am in agreement on Walters performance. He has overseen a massive talent decline since 2021. I wanted him gone this offseason as well and am not particlularly happy he is back. That being said, he's who we got, and from 2013-2020 he did a pretty decent job. He needs to get back to that and I will be happy. If he repeats the same failures as the past few years we are in trouble.
I am hoping the Canadian mafia got a big dose of reality this season and enter this offseason understanding that the work needs to be put in, and that we must utilize all potential advantages in order to win. Walters can't sit back and not be active this offseason, must make tough decisions on players even if it pisses MOS off, and MOS must be willing to utilize the naturalized import rule, and say goodbye to some of the guys he has favored for too long. If we do that we can start climbing up the hill again....maybe even rapidly. It seems to me that they got too comfortable and forgot that winning is more than running it back.

I am in agreement on Walters performance. He has overseen a massive talent decline since 2021. I wanted him gone this offseason as well and am not particlularly happy he is back. That being said, he's who we got, and from 2013-2020 he did a pretty decent job. He needs to get back to that and I will be happy. If he repeats the same failures as the past few years we are in trouble.
I am hoping the Canadian mafia got a big dose of reality this season and enter this offseason understanding that the work needs to be put in, and that we must utilize all potential advantages in order to win. Walters can't sit back and not be active this offseason, must make tough decisions on players even if it pisses MOS off, and MOS must be willing to utilize the naturalized import rule, and say goodbye to some of the guys he has favored for too long. If we do that we can start climbing up the hill again....maybe even rapidly. It seems to me that they got too comfortable and forgot that winning is more than running it back.

I am in agreement on Walters performance. He has overseen a massive talent decline since 2021. I wanted him gone this offseason as well and am not particlularly happy he is back. That being said, he's who we got, and from 2013-2020 he did a pretty decent job. He needs to get back to that and I will be happy. If he repeats the same failures as the past few years we are in trouble.
I am hoping the Canadian mafia got a big dose of reality this season and enter this offseason understanding that the work needs to be put in, and that we must utilize all potential advantages in order to win. Walters can't sit back and not be active this offseason, must make tough decisions on players even if it pisses MOS off, and MOS must be willing to utilize the naturalized import rule, and say goodbye to some of the guys he has favored for too long. If we do that we can start climbing up the hill again....maybe even rapidly. It seems to me that they got too comfortable and forgot that winning is more than running it back.

I am in agreement on Walters performance. He has overseen a massive talent decline since 2021. I wanted him gone this offseason as well and am not particlularly happy he is back. That being said, he's who we got, and from 2013-2020 he did a pretty decent job. He needs to get back to that and I will be happy. If he repeats the same failures as the past few years we are in trouble.
I am hoping the Canadian mafia got a big dose of reality this season and enter this offseason understanding that the work needs to be put in, and that we must utilize all potential advantages in order to win. Walters can't sit back and not be active this offseason, must make tough decisions on players even if it pisses MOS off, and MOS must be willing to utilize the naturalized import rule, and say goodbye to some of the guys he has favored for too long. If we do that we can start climbing up the hill again....maybe even rapidly. It seems to me that they got too comfortable and forgot that winning is more than running it back.

All depends on what Kyle Walters we get, The 2013-2020 KW that hoovered up top FA's with consistency OR the 2021 -2025 KW that swung and missed on just about every FA signing even though they were few and far between. 

I would say no one playing in the trenches, or at IMP receiver should feel like they are pencilled in this year. What we saw from those groups was abysmal and if we don't pull out all stops to have our best camp competition in years at these positions we are not going to improve.