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That looked to easy
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10 hours ago, WildPath said:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-gst-holiday-response-1.6143915
What is with these policies that they are coming up with? First, a carbon plan that gives you a savings account for polluting purchases and now a GST holiday for December? They do realize that there are supply shortages already, right? They do realize that this will disincentivize people to make any purchases until December, right? They do realize how frustrating it will be for businesses to change their taxation for just one month, right? When you have the Canadian Federation of Independent Businesses criticizing it and calling it gimicky, then you really have to wonder how they are coming up with policy.
I do like their pledge to add tariffs to countries with high carbon output, but I'd imagine there would be tons of exceptions from industries that are reliant on cheap Chinese goods.
Most parties attempt to buy votes in one way or another but this one is really poorly thought out. It makes them appear to be poorly prepared for an election we all knew was coming.
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3 hours ago, Tracker said:
And while that was poor judgement, it was not illegal.
True but it IS unethical.
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5 hours ago, Tracker said:
Lets keep the debate focussed on facts. The Justice Minister was moved to another cabinet posting (demoted if you wish) and then went public with her displeasure. Her department was not investigating SNC Lavalin at the time- that investigation was over, and the issue was how the corporation would be penalized- either a massive fine with immediate payment required or paid over time. Wilson-Reybold received 8 phone or email contacts over 8 months from the PMO's office about the disposition of the fines but said nothing until she was moved.
And here's the exact words of the Ethics Commissioner: The authority of the prime minister and his office was used to circumvent, undermine and ultimately attempt to discredit the decision of the director of public prosecutions as well as the authority of Ms. Wilson‑Raybould as the Crown’s chief law officer,” he found.
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13 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:
If it weren't illegal I would eat my ballot, then throw it up into the voting booth because these candidates make me sick.
Many years ago, probably in the 70s, I was utterly disgusted by the slate of candidates. So I made a little box, neatly printed my name and voted for myself. And yes, I know that's a spoiled ballot but in a small community where everyone knows everyone I thought it might give someone a laugh.
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This is a good Q+A with 3 high level American Doctors about how they personally deal with the Delta variant .
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/17/vaccines-delta-covid-coronavirus-safety-questions
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3 hours ago, 17to85 said:
I don't buy that Trudeau is a racist because of the blackface, he's just an idiot who was playing dress up. He is not a malicious person.
I mean I am sure Harper had plenty of lobbyists lining his and his pockets too. And appointing close people to government programs? Yeah that's the conservative playbook too. All that stuff is routine politics and every single one of them will do it. Again, it speaks more to the poor quality of the opposition. Any competent leadership from the opposition they'd have buried him already but they have so many demons of their own.
1st of all I never said he was a racist. I said you would have roasted Harper if it was him in blackface. Next, there has never been evidence ,or as far as I know a serious suggestion that Harper ever lined his pockets. Ever. You don't have to like his politics but you shouldn't make crap up. He took his role seriously. There is a difference between appointing people you know and what Trudeau did in the We scandal. The organization he was going to put in charge of close to a billion dollars of our money is run by 2 brother's who have made themselves rich by their " charity " It is organised so they cannot be held personally accountable . The minute they were being investigated they shutdown operations in Canada.This is an organization that had handed over close to 300,000 to his family. The only thing close to this is Chretien and the Ad scam or Mulroney after he left office and his paper bag of money and they don't match it. Saying " Oh they are all crooked " is BS As is saying" he is better than Trump" Who the hell isn't? It's making excuses for a guy who has no right to stay in office. And if it's because he is stupid , he should not be the PM. He fired our Attorney General just for investigating a company ( a company known for underhanded dealings) who were in his riding or close to it. That's her job and in Canada the AG is the one position that is not supposed to be interfered with by the sitting government. She is supposed to be independent.As I said I have no understanding of how anyone could vote for him.
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4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
because the scandals are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things.
Truthfully I just don't see how people can hate Trudeau... He's just an idiot. completely unqualified for the role he is in... but hate worthy? no. The sad fact is that the other parties are doing a damned good job being so completely useless it makes the Liberals with Trudeau as leader the best option.
Il give you the" hate " term. Dispise, disgust and embarrassed would be better. There's not alot of people I " hate ". I disagree on them being minor. Are you telling me that if multiple films of Harper wearing blackface came out you wouldn't be outraged. Or if he tried to give family friends/ business associates control of a 900 million government program you would call it minor ? Or taken a free 80,000 dollar holiday from a lobbyist you wouldnt be disgusted? And I could go on.
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1 hour ago, 17to85 said:
The reality is that the people who hate Trudeau THAT fiercely would hate any liberal leader equally as much and never vote for a party that wasn't sitting on the right.
There are way more moderates in this country and the conservatives are so beholden to the right that moderates are rejecting them.
I really don't see this piece the cons have out canceling the liberals child care plan as a winning strategy either.
I fiercely hate Trudeau and have voted Liberal in the past and dont rule out voting Liberal in the future. My son in law despises Trudeau and voted for him when he was 1ST elected PM. I know many others. Your "reality " is plain wrong. I actually have no understanding how people can ignore the endless scandals and issues and put an X by his name.
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5 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
You have high hopes for this WIP but realistically it will amount to a protest vote by a very small % of the population in areas that won't even move the needle.
Agreed. The same movement popped up in the late 70s and early 80s and garnered a few protest votes then disappeared.
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39 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
The headache for the Liberals is that every vote that gets bled off goes against their total. Dissatisfied Conservatives will still vote Conservative before they vote Liberal or NDP. Dissatisfied Liberals likely won’t vote Conservative, but they will much more easily vote NDP instead. And any Liberal voter in Quebec has the Bloc as another option, but I don’t think Conservative voters are as quick to vote Bloc instead of sticking with their party.
My vote is entirely fluid in most elections. In this election there is no way on God's green earth I can or will vote for Trudeau. I also won't vote for any party ( PC ) that actually still denies global warming. That leaves me Mr. Singh and I have no problem with that. It would suit me fine if the Liberals just squeak through with a tiny minority leaving the NDP as a very influential power.
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Its an interesting election . Its not really about people switching their votes from liberal to conservative or vise versa . It's more about how many votes the Bloc and NDP can bleed off or can't.
And how many middle of the pack voters just don't come out to vote. It's not like either the Liberals or Conservatives have been inspirational.
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I don't think this is the slam dunk that some think it is. Barring a disaster they will be back but :
Reasons the Libs will win a minority
1- Trudeau himself isn't that popular. He lost the popular vote to a weasel of a PC leader last election The Jody Wilson-Raybold fiasco, We scandal, being found unethical 2x, and his personal selection of our previous Gov. General leave a stink on him that wears on his personal likeability.
2- 1st Nation issues and problems have been at the forefront of the non-covid news.The Libs have been quite ineffectual on making any headway on the many issues they face.
3- Jagmeet Singh has made headway in increasjng his personal appeal to Canadians.
4-The Bloc haven't shot themselves in the foot
5 - The environment is finally becoming more of a general issue and I'm not sure that they are viewed as very progressive on it. ( not sure on that one)
Reasons they could get a majority :
1- A fractured PC party with a leader who has not been able to put it back togeather. That's the biggest factor in this election. OToole's lack of success at dragging them into this century pretty much eliminates them from power.
2- Singh is the most popular party leader but So many people just are to hesitant to actually vote NDP and I still don't know if enough of Canada is ready to vote for a Sikh leader to make a breakthrough.
But this is no slam dunk for the liberals.
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7 hours ago, Noeller said:
I really and truly believe that the best thing for Canada is a Lib majority. Then some progressive changes on climate change and other stuff can finally be passed.
He's had all the chances in the world to pass whatever he wants. The NDP would have supported any progressive change he wanted to. He is all talk, no action.
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Picked !!!
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Hey, a big return!
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Can we find a run game to eat the clock ?
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Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:
Argos undisciplined so we make them PAAAAAAY.
Stupid,stupid penalty right in front of the ref
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Woo Hoo!
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Wow, that's huge.Now we need points off it
GDT - Week 3 - The Champs @ Argos
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Well played Nichols !