Brandon

Does anyone have any knowledge on the guys we drafted? If so any kind of break down and/or chances of these guys ever making the club? Comparisons to other players?

The stories I've heard of trying to restrain a guy messed up on drugs are crazy. They become super human and physically can not be held down. I've seen videos of guys being tased and they just keep walking as if nothing is being done to them. It's not like the officers have endless time to learn how to be complete MMA artist. Think of UFC 1 - 5 ... guys with black belts in karate and tae-kwon-do spent years and years of training learning a martial art..... to end up resorting to throwing bar room brawl type haymakers because in real fights none of those traditional techniques are fairly useless. I'm not any kind of expert of fighting or taking out other people, but I'd imagine the best techniques would be to bash someones legs and maybe pummel the liver. Either way asking someone to stay still and trying to hug them to restrain them does not work at all.

I don't know about the culture not conducive to weeding out the bad ones, I've noticed a massive shift/change over the last five years. In Manitoba the WPS and RCMP are trained properly and we are fortunate to have professional and great police forces. In the States it's so much more difficult and so much variety in how each region trains and supports (financially) that some places are great and others not so much. Also the clientele across the States vary so much... I would assume being a patrol cop in Grand Forks would generally be safe and dull and for most police calls the threat of danger would be very low. Now compare this to Chicago where the homicide rate is really high and where if you are White/Asian and drive in the wrong area it's almost a guarantee that you will get shot/beaten to a pulp.... I imagine these officers cannot take any call lightly and can't be passive and assume that every suspect will go down nicely and is not a threat to shoot them. It's such apples and oranges and each situation is so unique that you can't criticize one cop for punching a guy down when another takes one down with only words. I saw a video yesterday (care of reddit 's subreddit of publicfreakouts ) where some big black dude is taking on three cops and beating them up and they are bashing his legs and trying to take him down but the guy is so messed up on drugs that nothing had effect on him. The dude is shouting and threatening everyone and is a huge threat to the public... sometimes the only way to take someone down is a massive beating or using excessive force. The other x-factor is human nature.... you can train people so much but sometimes training goes out the window. To compare it to football... we train our players to not get overly emotional and to not take bad penalties... how many times in the heat of the moment we see players take a dumb penalty.... kind of a weird comparison but my main point was that the only way we can have police officers to all remain calm and to follow the book 100% in all situations and to make on the fly decisions in an instant is if we employ a group of these guys:

I'll take a late October Grey Cup please and thank you

Had the chance to put the foot down .... might be the turning point of this series.

Can someone tell the Jets to score please!

In Walters we trust! I'm pretty sure with his track record that he'll make the right choice based on who is left.

Armia is an upgrade over Roslo so I'm not complaining.

You don't. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it doesn't mean your opinion is correct. My main point was that you can't generalize everything because maybe once in a while something doesn't go right. As for you being a bouncer , you mentioned it on these boards. My example was to show that you can't assume everyone needs to change if 1 incident out of thousands is mishandled. If the news showed the 1000's of clean arrests that happen daily then the news would be pretty boring.

Aside from maybe the first two or three picks... the draft is always a crapshoot. It seems that nothing is guaranteed and just as many guys in the later rounds stick with teams compared to the guys drafted in the first few rounds.

I wasn't aware that Unknown Poster was a police officer? I'm not familiar with everyones incidents, but usually when you comply and don't resist .... you don't end up being thrown to the ground and hurt. The cowboys are isolated incidents and a very small minority of what happens in the world. I've witnessed and seen online many videos of bouncers who go way over the edge and beat the crap out of drunk patrons or toss these drunk guys face first into cement. Should I now suggest that all bouncers need to change? I think bouncers like Unknown Poster need to change merely because some adrenalized up bouncers thousands of miles away did something wrong?

No issues with that suspension...it was a dangerous hit.

Remember the depth we had the last time we were in the playoffs.... These issues are good to have.

You don't think a fringe team like Florida wouldn't offer him a 4 year deal for 6 - 7 million per year?

I'd assume Stastny will be gone mainly because Chevy wouldn't hand the guy a long term contract meanwhile a desperate team would...

I was going to post the exact same thing. I know Roslovic is the plan moving forward... but I'd really like for them to somehow keep Stastny for a few more years.

Nobody has a clue about any of these players so it's a bit hard to post anything about it.... Wait till training camp and *if* a few people attend and write reports... things will pick up then.

It's not only sportsnet... TSN featured an article about the GM on top despite the Jets playing...

What I assume is that Ford is throwing in the towel and can't compete with the imports for the sedan market. With the rising gas prices will people keep going forward with Trucks and SUVS?

Everybody has a price....

I watched the 3rd period and OT of the San Jose / Vegas game... I turned it off when I thought Vegas had won it in OT.... apparently I should be more patient. I thought San Jose looked gassed and so slow though... no chance in hell that if they beat Vegas that they can beat either the Jets or Nashville.

Didn't watch it. I did however watch the youtube clip of Sami Callihan smacking that guy in the face with a baseball bat in probably one of the worst conceived and executed spots. I also listened to Kevin Sullivan and checked out the gruesome photo of him after he was hurt by this same Sami guy. Sooner or later someone is either really going to get hurt or it will be another New Jack type incident where someone just stabs or beats the crap out of Sami...

Reminds me of Dennis Rodman going to North Korea and pretending like they were good people... silly stuff.

Hey it worked in Rocky 4 for bringing down communism!