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It's a pretty common thought applied to many "defensive defenceman" prospects. Most of what they do is based on their "reads" and reads are a lot easier when the opposition is playing a coherent system. The more "pond hockey" the other team is playing, the harder it is for a smart defenceman to do his job because it's difficult to read the next move of someone making it up as they go along.

Don't really understand how they can afford Olafioye but not Foucault. Olafioye isn't exactly on a cheap contract. Foucault looking for 165k+ ????

Cheerfully withdrawn. Yes they do but it would be odd to pick 3 goalies who are currently under contract on one-way deals. I suspect they will try to get a big money guy with some term (Varlamov?), a young NHL up-and-comer (Grubauer?) , and a young guy or two who can start in the AHL. Maybe Hellebuyck can fit in there but I would bet after this year that he wouldn't be a prime target for Vegas especially with guys like Armia, Dano, Lowry, and Myers on the table. If we could acquire Fleury for example, we could keep him as the starter and Helle as the backup and safely protect Fleury while not losing Hellebuyck. Such is my thought right now.

"not coachable" "undisciplined" Gimme those players all day. Just need the right coach to get through to them.

If I can hear myself think, it's not loud enough.

Right! Exactly. It's people that just don't see the big picture. Just "they get money, I don't get money, WTF!"

But are you willing to give Darling the big deal? 4 mil/year for 5 years? Or similar? What's the confidence level?

Yeah for sure, I just didn't think it was allowed.

I'm not down on Winnipeg, I love Winnipeg. I think you underestimate the negative reputation this city has, however. "Winnipeg could sign Darling for a slight overpayment".... based on what, exactly? Seems like wishful thinking to me. Condon might end up being the guy we go for, and I think he'd be a good target. Budaj.... that's not happening.

Some would rather see a shitty downtown that generates less taxes than see the wealthy receive tax rebates, even when it means a better downtown for all. I don't understand the mindset.

Seems weird to sign a draft pick to an ATO. I didn't realize that was an option.

It was just an example. Basically, Pens trade an asset to keep Murray from Vegas and we trade the equivalent asset to the Pens to acquire Fleury. However it was your assertion that the Jets aren't willing to pay for Darling that really wound my crank. If you think that DOLLARS are the primary reason why UFA's avoid Winnipeg, then I don't think you've been paying attention.......

Charities should run on donations, not government dollars. Forced charity is bullshit.

Holy **** are you being intentionally stupid? Obviously I don't mean Vegas would take both, I mean Winnipeg gets to keep both, i.e. they don't lose either one to Vegas.

Oh did Chevy say that's what they're doing?

I know that, obviously. The question was how Winnipeg could acquire Fleury and avoid losing both he and Hellebuyck.

Lesnar is not allowed to speak anymore

Fair enough, I basically saw the same thing but that's what I expect. Nothing blatantly horrible though. Compare it to Chiarot's one-game audition a couple years ago and Nogier was miles better. Looked like a promising start to me.

I don't know.... the CFL draft will always be a tough sell because the players generally don't come in and become stars, except in very limited cases. The best of the draft end up as linemen... it's very rare to find a player coming in at a skill position and making an impact. So to most fans, it's like.... who cares? Tough to get excited about right guards and special teamers, no matter how much coverage of the draft there is.

Taker choke-slamming Strowman was pretty sweet. Didn't think he still had it in him. The Goldberg-Lesnar recap was funny... I don't recall ever seeing a recap hyped like a main event before. "And later tonight, we recap what's happened between Goldberg and Lesnar!!!!" Wtf???

Pens trade first round pick to Vegas to get them not to take Murray, Jets trade first round pick to Pens for Fleury, post-expansion draft. Everybody wins. Except Fleury would never waive his NMC to come to Winnipeg so it's all pretty irrelevant.

Did he? Looked a little nervous with the puck early on but seemed to settle in OK. What did you see?

hmm I'm not so sure that's true. Sounds nice, but not sure it's true. Some of the best defensive forwards in the league don't do it with size but with relentless pursuit and smart play. Toews, Bergeron, etc.

Actually a pretty solid looking staff they are putting together in T.O.