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Sorry to disappoint you but if the Bombers beat the aforementioned teams and everything else remains equal, then the Blue will be in the playoffs.lol! First they have to beat those two bottom dwellers but that won't be enough. That is just two games. To make the playoffs they have to beat >.500 teams and so far each one they have played they have been crushed. Montreal and BC have shown they can beat >.500 teams so right now I have to give them the edge. Sorry.No need to be sorry. There is nothing in what I said that isn't true. Should I explain it to you? I'd like to hear it. Beating BC and Montreal only will put us at 6-12 and that's not going to do it. Unless this is some wordplay thing. Then forget it. Beat the Lions and Als and you may not need to win any other games depending on what those teams do. Remember the Als would have to cross over and would need to flat out beat the Bombers record, doable but not guaranteed. If they beat the Lions as well then Winnipeg would hold the tie breaker over them and they too would need to flat out beat the Bombers record. Possible but not a given. If the Bombers only get to 6 wins those other teams need to get to 7 (or 6 plus a tie) Really the most basic thing you can do to make the playoffs is beat the teams you should beat and keep them behind you. The Bombers at this moment have a chance to do that. They wouldn't be the first team to make the playoffs below .500. BC has qb and coach issues, so does Montreal, I don't know how you give them the advantage if Winnipeg manages to beat them.

Purely hypothetical, but what if the offense lights up the CFL under Nichols? Could that possibly suggest Marcel wasn't the problem? We have a whole lot of other years where Marcel has run an offence to base his performance on not just his time here. He's a problem, the only question is whether there is anyone better available and willing to come to Winnipeg.

How about we talk about the years before that? Rebuilding isn't just about a new person coming in, it's about what's already in the system when a person comes in, and in the Bombers case the QB and NI situations have been bad for a long long time and not a lot has been built. When Kelly took over the team basically had Brown and Labatte and a bunch of meh canadians. Kelly didn't do much to add to the NIs in his year, then Labatte leaves in free agency and we have Brown retiring and we're left with a bunch of meh at NI. Mack brought in some guys like Watson and Muamba, but Watsons injuries and Muamba going to the NFL again left it pretty meh. Now we're in a situation where they're still trying to get some quality NIs in here. The qb thing is even worse. Kelly destroyed the position. Mack went out and signed Pierce and Jyles as vets but neither one of them lasted. Pierce was broken and no one was able to develop. Now we have Willy but he's missing a lot of time to injury and the backups aren't developing. When nothing ever gets built it doesn't matter who you hire it's not going to be a quick turn around.

And if two completely disconnected-from-the-league Twitter handles aren't reliable, then who is????? Hey they don't let you post anything on the internet unless it's true, especially not on twitter.

Quoted for truth. That’s your opinion and you’re certainly entitled to it. Not sure why this question bothers you so much…it’s a legit question that a GM could need to consider/manage. It's a legit dumb question because Nichols ain't getting paid like a starter and even if he was I got a lot of other areas I can cut salary in to fit both in. Picard cut alone saves a huge amount of money. Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion Absolutely. This place is like Animal Farm. Everyone is equal but some think they are more equal than others. This is completely untrue. There is a big discrepancy between many posters. This particular question is dumb for a number of reasons that have been pointed out by me and others.

Quoted for truth. That’s your opinion and you’re certainly entitled to it. Not sure why this question bothers you so much…it’s a legit question that a GM could need to consider/manage. It's a legit dumb question because Nichols ain't getting paid like a starter and even if he was I got a lot of other areas I can cut salary in to fit both in. Picard cut alone saves a huge amount of money.

The Bombers stopped the run game short a bunch of times. Put a team in 2nd and long because you stop the run game and it makes it a lot harder to be productive on offence. Same reason the Bombers get away from the run. When it's being stuffed it's not really that great an idea to just keep trying to pound it. Bombers did to Sask what so many teams have done to the Bombers lately. Stop the run and say "ok your rookie qb has to beat us with his arm"

Yeah Jones gave the impression he was looking to get rid of Nichols from the get go. Even last year they would try and get their 3rd stringer into games. I don't think it's fair to judge him on how Edmonton viewed him, They wanted something else at their #2 qb slot but no one did them a favour of outright beating him.

This is exactly what I'm getting at. We've seen tons of highly touted built for the CFL qbs come up here and flame out. Until he proves himself he's just another prospect qb.

Is he as good as Tee Martin?

We can thank 17to85 for that. Was that a fat joke? One thing to keep in mind, when Noeller starts calling people fat he's doing it like Homer when he started to tell it like it is... "You're the fattest one in the car Homer!"

In todays NHL you don't see many "suited to the role" 4th lines anymore. It's a good place for young players to get sheltered minutes and provide depth scoring without much pressure. Lots of teams trying to go with 3 offensive lines and one checking line these days. Ehlers doesnt strike me as suited to a checking line. No and that's not what I said, 3rd lines generally become checking lines and 4th lines are lines that can play against softer competition.

That's called Brohming a joke. We could just call it gbilling a joke... Or 17to85ing a joke. Yeah except I'm not the guy who continuously runs things into the ground.

I'm hoping Walters said to him "Go get everyones offer then come talk to me"

That's called Brohming a joke. We could just call it gbilling a joke...

In todays NHL you don't see many "suited to the role" 4th lines anymore. It's a good place for young players to get sheltered minutes and provide depth scoring without much pressure. Lots of teams trying to go with 3 offensive lines and one checking line these days.

The thing about this tournament is that it's basically a showcase for the top prospects. There's no systems play and a lot of the guys who get invited will never get a sniff of the NHL, but the top prospects are supposed to put on a show. I'd be concerned that none of the Jets big time prospects have done that. This whole thing was supposed to be the Oilers and Jets showing off their fancy prospects that the other teams just lack. The Calgary and Vancouver teams are pretty terrible all in all, basically like one or two guys on either of those teams worth a damn.

Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner. Not going to defend Bellefeuille totally but a large part of our total ineptness on offence over the past few weeks is in large part because Brohm and Marve are not or are not ready to be CFL QBs. Nichols performance on just 4 days practice in our offence proves that. So here's my question, both Brohm and Marve talked about their frustration with no big plays available, yet Willy and Nichols seemed to have no trouble with that, what if it was Bellefool who did call nothing but short crap because he didn't trust his qbs? That's a possibility given the stark differences between Brohm and Marve and WIlly and Nichols. It certainly could be a simple case of Willy and Nichols are just better, but I do wonder. Bellefeuille to me seems to try and out think himself at the best of times, it's entirely within the realm of possibility he did it with Brohm/Marve too.

Jokes tend to be funny though... was there a joke that I missed?

DBs are generally the fastest guys on the team, just the nature of the position. Why do you think a lot of kick returners are defensive backs?

Bass just ran out of steam, that's common with football players, they're so focussed on the explosive short range speed a lot of them really suck when they have to maintain that speed over a distance.

That was the kind of play we used to do on defense in the 80's.Harrumph Harrumph!! I have no idea what that means? We had a championship defense back in the day who made timely plays to win games with linebackers like Jones, Battle & West. That defensive touchdown was as good a play as I've ever seen. That's all I meant.

Why do I have to choose? Shouldn't be difficult to fit both in. Nichols is not in as high a demand as all that that he's going to command starter money.

Yes the thing that makes the oil sands difficult is that because it's heavier it's less viscous. Conventional oil you put a hole in the ground it'll flow out easily, what they do with oil sands when they don't just mine it is they drill two holes and inject steam into one which makes the bitumen flow more easily. That's where the water usage comes from, plus the energy required to heat water to make steam. Oil shale is different, shales have no permeability so even if you put a hole in the ground nothing will flow because the only place you can get oil from is the immediate area around the well bore, so they fracture the **** out of the stuff and create artificial permeability so the stuff can get into the well bore. I am not as familiar with what kind of oil is actually in the oil shales, but even with the fracturing I don't think you recover a ton of the stuff from the rock compared to what's locked in there.

is that you Thomas Mulcair? Surely you don't buy that argument... Yes a higher dollar is worse for exporting done by manufacturing, but I ask again, how is he supposed to save a dying industry without huge subsidization? lol was I suggesting we prop up the typewriter industry? Manufacturing is a pretty broad term and its far from dying. What the **** do you think get done with raw resources after they are taken out of the ground? people drink the oil and buy blocks of copper to look at? its gets manufactured into end use items. Developing countries have the focus of their economy hacking **** out of the ground. Developed countries make ****. The US has a robust manuacturing sector and that is why they are doing much better than us economically right now. The nature of our economy though makes it difficult to be that manufacturing power. We're isolated, small population in the country, the only close market just happens to be the juggernaut that is the United States so any manufacturing done here is also in competition with the manufacturing done there, and they have a closer proximity to bigger markets than we do sad to say. What this country does have though is a lot of resources and since the world is all about free trade these days it simply makes more sense to produce resources. In a vacuum sure, but we're not in a vacuum, we're stuck next to an elephant that can roll over and squash us.