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More than OL? More than OC? More than receivers?

Yeah but first pass of the game was on target, receiver dropped it. He had a nice shot to demski downfield but it wasn't a catch because the db tripped demski... Wilson could have made another catch. Wheatfall getting KOed i addressed earlier. That was not a qb problem there. There are huge problems with this team, qb isn't the biggest problem.

He's barely allowed to pass and the offense is **** with collaros too.... is collaros better passer? Sure but the same problems exist with both guys and I honestly believe on the list of problems with the offense qb is the last one. Scheme and play calling suck, OL sucks, receivers are mid at best. What's a qb supposed to do?

Yes? Sink or swim and quit this smartest guy in the room crap. Hand off to Brady on first, qb draw on 2nd. Great ******* plan. Let streveler run the same offense Zach gets and see what happens. People seem to forget collaros has big int totals this year too AND has been concussed 3 times because he gets no blocking too. This offense sucks and qb IMO is the last reason it sucks.

I don't know how they can look at thia game and stick with Hogan calling the offense... Brown threw 2 picks and Ottawa kept letting him throw. Streveler threw one into the shadows (brown had one in the same spot too) and suddenly he looks like he's been told not to throw unless a guy is 20 yards open. Receivers put catchable balls on the turf too... and on the pass wheatfall got clocked on, I blame that on whoever decided Wilson should be there. Dragged a db right into the way to allow that hit to happen. If it was designed for him to be there more shame on Hogan but most likely Wilson was just in the wrong spot.

Hogan sucks. That is all

Got a TL:DR for those not watching the pregame?

Pessimists. There's nothing wrong with this team that can't be addressed in short order... the question is whether they'll do what is necessary.

Terrible playcall that has been picked before because defenses know it's coming. If Hogan pulls that crap out again he needs to be fired on the spot because not only is it easy picking for the defense but there's no one to stop the return going to the house. Dumb playcall period.

I honestly think it's purely age and Willie can't go all out and because he can do the knockdown thing he does that to still be useful. Honestly they should split reps more than they do and let him occasionally put the fear of god into a qb.

Best we can do is line Thomas up at end.

Stupid is as stupid does

Well both those guys got better results with similar players so yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say Hogan is a clear step down from those guys. Lapos problem was entirely playcalling and knowing when to be conservative and when to go for it. He is a good football mind and did have a real nice playbook. Pierce similarly has run some good offenses in the past. Hogan though... he's got no accolades and defenses are not fooled in the least by what he's trying to do.

Kelly for hallet is fine and Parker going on for injured griffin is about the best you can hope for.... but man they gotta stop pretending what they're doing on the DL works.

Questionable

Well they certainly like to think they are... So here's the thing, people revere engineers but most engineers can't think outside the box and are pretty rigid thinkers, goes back to the math.

Engineering is math... engineers are nothing more than calculators.

Either way, reactions will be...

You're only as old as you feel.... awwww crap...

probably kelly for reasons... unless parker is ready

They ran, ran and then ran some more... that means there's less passing numbers total... streveler missed some throws for sure (but so did BLM, it happens) but the gameplan was run the ball and they did that.

Finding a way to what exactly? No I'm watching our offense struggle, and become inept after halftime no.matter who is at qb. Collaros better than streveler. Sure but neither one is showering themselves in glory due to other offensive factors

Doesn't matter if they do what we want or not, all we're saying is, if they used their roster better they could get more out of their defensive line and improve the defense dramatically. Cfl field is too big to never pressure a qb.

Collaros wasn't getting it done either despite hitting a few random deep shots here and there too.

I'd rather make it in the west and got into calgary and Regina and beat those assholes when it matters.