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He also didn't have the ball. Wooden did.

It's like the Als are trying to give themselves a handicap on O using Wilson on short-yardage instead of Crum.

I don't see why Wallace would play T. We don't really have the depth inside to sustain it and we do have a OT on the PR. Wallace is fine when he plays big but it's not often. He's not exactly a technician so he needs to use his hands to move people and his width to take up space in pass pro, just play simple inside out. He takes up two gaps on his own if he just drops his hips a bit, gets his pads down, throws hands and holds his ground. Once he starts opening his hips to chase blocks our QB's insurance companies stock price starts going down.

I hope they do. He's basically Tre Ford. No arm and no clue from the pocket. Disciplined pass rush is a easy night for a defense.

Coaches don't motivate. That's on the players. Coaches prepare. Can burn the coaches and organization for choosing the wrong leaders on the roster for sure. Our O is a well documented mess in general. Outside of the Toronto game have started slow every single game. We've been taking the ball to start the game when we win the toss and basically never end up with more than a FG attempt. Basically never see any adjustments on O. Will see a drive once a game that's all deep shots or all runs, but no consistent balance or adjustment to overall approach. Our D is never prepared to start the game/half. 3 out of 4 home games (all the ones we lost) we gave up TD drive to start the game on D. First drive out of half (we're almost always kicking off to start because we've been taking the ball), almost always give up big plays/points. Our D never really seems to fire up until 3-4 possessions into the game. But even at their best we're hardly putting any pressure on the ball at any level of the field. Just see teams laughing their heads off at us at how passive we are.

BC PAVCO Annual Report Page 29 https://www.bcpavco.com/pdfs/BC%20Pavilion%20Corporation%20%202024-25%20Annual%20Service%20Plan%20Report.pdf

BC Place made about half a million net on $97 million of revenue in 2025 (almost $23 million of that being direct government subsidies). That subsidy is just a little more than the payment into capital renewal fund/debt servicing still being paid off from the last reno. Lost over $4 million in 2024. To put it simply, that stadium is not making any money off operations. Doubt anyone buys it without some kind of deal with government to cover capital costs/direct government subsidy.

Buying that stadium would be one of the dumbest decisions he could make, no matter the price. Roof on there already 15 years old. If lucky get another 15-20 years before it needs like $1 billion in renovations.

Why do people keep saying there are too many "deep balls?" We basically throw nothing more than 20 yards. Our YPA on passes the last two games is under 7 yards. The game we actually did have some vertical routes against Toronto the only thing that stopped our O was turning the ball over. We're throwing short and intermediate routes across the field into coverage because the D is dividing the first 20 yards of the field into thirds, one guy in the first 10 yards, one guy at 18-20 yards behind. They are under and over everything we are running because we do not go deep. So the QB looks like a dumb **** because every route he's reading on any play has 2-3 guys in coverage/proximity to it to break it up.

We could start another American on O by sitting one of the two American's on D who get zero reps and "starting" another Canadian on D. We basically never play without 3 Canadians on D anyways, sometimes as many as 6 on a given rep last night. If we sat down the 2 DA's in the LB crew we could start 4 American OL and have another American receiver.

Pro sport training camps are not competitive. The Bombers aren't unique in this. Guys have to show solid habits and make the most of any opportunity they get. NFL runs long ass off-season camps and it's basically non-competitive for the veteran players. Guys who aren't high picks are battling to get the last couple spots on the 53 or PR spots, just like up here, be on the list of injury replacements. NHL is basically doing away with pre-season completely. Show up for a few weeks, skate as a team, start playing real games. Way bigger concern is the personnel we are finding, choosing to bring up, keeping and how monstrously useless a lot of them end up being. Like I get the attraction to having a vet at field corner like Moxey, but how many games of him just completely bailing on any thought of competing in a football game as a defender do we need to see before we say goodbye? We've had a long list of receivers who we've kept around full seasons, multiple seasons, who do absolutely nothing when they get a shot. Or guys that are just horrendous fits for the schemes we're trying to run. DL too. Like Fletcher is trending that way to me as an American. He's had about 2 hurries in 7 games, hit a QB twice, get's gapped out like crazy vs the run to the point we're basically not using him as 3 tec on 1st and 10 anymore. We don't use him on the edge, ever. Why are we making adjustments to our scheme or downgrading what we're able to do for guys who bring nothing to the table? Bring in a different player. Jamal Parker was here for like 4 years. Always going to be the next one. Gets some extended run on the field, not even an average CFL player at any spot. But we love these guys we think can play 3-4 spots, but can't play any 1 of them in a (positive) impactful way for the team.

I mean like I told you guys off the highlights from camp scrimmages they were putting out, the Rifles LB in camp was making up 10 yards on him when the ball is in the air. He's not beating anyone on a route in this league. You're hoping the D doesn't count him in coverage or is so fixated on a play fake they forget about him on a flat route.

I think Ceresna is physically cooked. That's why Edmonton let him walk. He's sucking wind basically the entire game. But the 5-6 plays when he does twitch off the snap he can still make some big plays. Very inconsistent and not a guy teams are afraid of running at. Bad combo inside with Fletcher who doesn't seem to get gap responsibility, just chases play and leaves huge lanes for cutback which is what zone scheme is after on O. I agree that I fail to see the point of using all our DA's on D/special teams but then really not using them....especially when our O is so bad. If we want to play so many Canadians on D, shift the ratio to get some guys on O. We're running so much empty with 6 receivers but of those 6 we have Brady and Daniels out there for a lot of it so really 4 receives. Brady has utility in the pass game but it's not running 8 yard hooks at the field wideout spot. That's just a guy the D doesn't need to worry about once he gets out there. On Ball, he's a huge special teamer. Real good at being first guy down and forcing returns to sideline into our tacklers. He's an asset we've been missing since Kelly is playing more D.

Is Cam Allen out for the season? See he was extended on 6 game but no reporting on him from FP or Tait.

Clercius has shown no ability to effectively win routes from the slot. They pushed him in there early last season and it was bad. I'd give him a shot to be the boundary wideout and see if we can make him kind of a deep threat out of any set, but especially when we run max protect (which we need to do a lot more). Be a guy who just runs down the rail, pulls up for a curl, the odd dig, throw him a couple screens every game. We really need to open up some space and at least drawing the corner/whoever they have in deep zone to the boundary 25-30 yards downfield will give Wilson/White/Demski a chance to make plays.

The D didn't make more mistakes than Calgary's D. But the level of performance and compete from the secondary in particular is completely unacceptable. The Nichols bust on the TD pass to McAllister in 2 high coverage is one of the worst football plays I've seen in my entire life at any level. Like does he seriously think when he's the high man in that coverage looking down at the routes where we have 3-4 other guys sitting on them that there maybe isn't a reason why he should look again to turn his hips and make sure there actually isn't a deep route coming at him? It wasn't even really disguised. McAllister came out of the backfield and just ran right up the seam. 2 high....you're high, you've got to be on top of the deepest route on your half of the field. He's not reading the QB/ball, he's not playing his zone, he's reading an area where we have 4 other guys covering 2 Calgary players. Remarkably poor play by a veteran player. My opinion of this D almost halfway through this season is that we don't have the players to execute the scheme in the secondary. So a good coach would drastically simplify to put a competitive secondary on the field. I think it's beyond making one personnel change. Either way Moxey needs to go. Guy just doesn't show any willingness play in and play out to compete.

It's exceptionally rare that you see a CFL offense that is completely rudderless, no real strength, no seeming understanding of what it's strength is to build out the rest of the scheme from. But that's where we are. Condell should not be a play caller in this league. It's insane how many chances this guy has got to be completely terrible. We're basically running a Tim Burke/Gary Crowton era level of chaos offense with much better players and QB's. The low level NCAA West Coast scheme with no vertical routes, no run scheme doesn't work in pro football. Maybe we can bring in Marcel Bellefeuille from Ottawa to consult.

The refs still hold play though to spot the ball, for subs and whistle in the ready for play. You see it when offenses actually start trying to run some tempo how slow it still is to get to that ready for play. I don't think the 35 second clock has changed much other than hurrying up the 4th quarter when a team has a lead and they bleed the clock

The entire focus of building the O game plan for BC should be how we are going to protect and implement a vertical passing threat, and how we are going to make sure we have a run threat on every single snap (and use it).

Condell's scheme is basically all within 15-20 yards of the line of scrimmage so the D is just bunching up their coverage in there. And like 80% of our dropbacks not run threat in there at all so all the guys with gap responsibility other than the rushers can just lock on their coverage responsibility. I mean even if you jet one receiver through the backfield to give the visual and be a checkdown at least you're drawing down 1-2 defenders to think about it. No challenge on the deep zones to create space in that area either. Just horrific to watch as a fan of a team. Only way that can work is if you're amazing at quick timing routes. We don't even have the receivers to run that. We have a bunch of mini speed receivers, no possession guys, no vertical threats in coverage.

What's the alternative in these situations for him? Just lie on the ball in the pocket? We're not doing anything consistently well on O as a team. Nice that we had a couple drives tonight where we ran the ball.

Yeah for as bad as they played, the Bombers had 3 opportunities starting possessions on the Stamps side of the field and did not get a TD out of it. Handed Calgary 2 TD's (the McAllister reception and Missed FG return) after also spotting them a TD on a first drive we didn't impede at all. Hope Calgary feels really good about this one because they are flawed as hell too. Our O just doesn't attack. Streveler is very politely picking Condell apart on OB lol.

Nobody is really playing that well. Montreal's O but their special teams and D lacking a bit. Really need to sort out OL and get the right mix out there at receiver. I don't think we need to keep burning all our DI's on special teams and D when our O is this lackluster. This is an offensive league. The best D will not win the championship with the worst O but the best O might with the worst D.

We going to be the 3rd team in 5 seasons to take play calling away from Tommy Condell before the final 3rd of the season?

Would have rather seen Hogan sort out his first year and see if there's progress than bring in known worst OC in the league for a half-decade in Condell.