kelownabomberfan

So my solution is to just not watch documentaries made by people with an anti-meat agenda. Does horrible stuff go on in the world against animals every day? Yup. Does horrible stuff go on in the world every day against humans? Yup. Both are terrible things that shouldn't happen.

Keep heading east until you get to Niagara Falls and get married

Desjardins would probably want all of our starting CDNs for the one pick. We have starting Canadians?

More on the blood type thing, if anyone cares: http://veg.ca/2005/11/11/the-blood-type-diet/

I like meat because I find it tastes incredibly good. Nothing better than a really nice rib-eye with some decent Cab Sav. That's living, I tell's ya. I don't think I could survive in a meat-less world actually, it would be a hardship too much to bear. But that's just me. Mr. "O Positive". Paul McCartney started a phrase that I hear a lot of PETA people use "one visit to a slaughterhouse will make you a vegetarian for life". Ha - I'm living proof that that stupid phrase isn't true.

100% agree. There is no reason in this day and age for any animal raised for slaughter to suffer. I watched a good movie called "Temple Grandin", the true story of an autistic woman named Temple Grandin who revolutionized the way cows are slaughtered at killing plants. She had a special ability to think like a cow, and redesigned the entire process to limit suffering and anxiety of cattle to almost zero. Great movie, well worth watching. Speaking of books and theories, another theory I've read a bit about is blood type. This is all just speculation but a large percentage of the world is "O positive". I'm "O Positive". Someone told me that O Positive people's ancestors were the hunter/gatherer types, and so those with this blood type are meat eaters, and their bodies are more conducive to digesting meat. Other blood types like type A and B are related to ancient tribes who farmed and lived on vegetables, which is why they are more suited to a vegetarian diet, as their ancestors pre-programed them for it. I know this is probably all bunk, but who knows. I know I love meat, and I'm O Positive. I don't digest wheats or bread very well. That proves nothing, but it is an interesting theory to consider.

I know one thing is true, one hundred years from now humans will look back at us, all of us I am certain, and be amazed at the food we eat today and how little we really knew about it, even with thousands of years of anecdotal evidence. Just like we look at the Romans now and know why a lot of their leaders were nuts, they were drinking water piped in with lead pipes, and were ingesting huge quantities of lead, which fried their brains.

I grew up drinking milk straight from the cow, and it definitely tasted better than what is sold in stores, that's for sure. We'd have friends visit us from Calgary, and they'd bring store-bought milk because they hated the taste of our straight from the cow stuff. It was also extremely rich, as we just skimmed off the cream, so it was probably like drinking homo milk x 2.

Well then we should get the vegan douchebags I know together with the anti-vegan douchebags and perhaps we can find a way to bridge the gap to peace and understanding. It's the whole "meat is murder" crowd that bugs me to no end. Unfortunately, my 18 year old niece has been radicalized by some loser teacher of hers, and now every family gathering we have to listen to why we are such terrible people for cutting into a turkey or a ham. On Christmas morning, as I'm enjoying a delicious pile of bacon, she proceeded to tell me that the pig I am eating had a family too, and that I should be ashamed for eating him. I asked her who filled her head with this garbage, and that's where I found out about her nutty teacher. So I told her that I grew up on a hog farm in Niverville so I knew a thing or two about pigs, and how if we didn't separate the piglets from the sow and the sire boar there was about a 95% chance that that pig would have been devoured by its own family in its first two days of life. Apparently her teacher hadn't told her that part of the pig story, instead kids are taught that animals are basically humans and their existence is similar to a Disney movie, and since most of them will never visit a barn or farm in their lives, they just eat it up, pun intended. Anyway, after being laughed at a lot, by everyone, the niece has toned down the anti-meat nuttiness a bit, thank goodness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXLJJ5XAKqw

what a ridiculous argument.... how many other animals have the means to actually pull that off? raccoons would drink rabbit milk if they could, raccoons are sneaky.

I think I doubt this, a lot in fact.

Yup. It is showing tremendously. That's because almost every Vegan I've ever met has been a massive entitled douchebag, who thinks that everything has to be catered to their weird eating habits. I know that's "sterotyping" but such is life. There are no doubt lots of good Veganites out there who aren't entitled douchebags, but unfortunately I've just met a lot of bad ones. I hope you were looking in the mirror when you typed that. Hope you do too! What I really object to with the whole Vegan thing is that I always see veganites and PETA type nutbars crying about how animals shouldn't be farmed or eaten etc. They want to impose their will and their messed up belief system on the rest of us. I guess I'm just a bit worried one day, in the name of "tolerance" or whatever, this actually happens, and suddenly the rest of us are forced into eating their crappy food. I don't care what you eat, and if it makes you feel better, great. Just stop telling me how to live all right? That Paul McCartney has to be one of the most obnoxious ones out there - before a concert he forces everyone on his crew to go off meat. What a pretentious ******! Anyway - sorry if I ruffled some feathers. If there are some good vegans out there (and you guys are among them) I really would like to meet you in order to get some balance. I also think being in BC is another issue, there just are so many hippy idiots out here it's tough to distinguish between them all.

Excellent post Mark. That's why the perfect target market for the organic food industry are urbanites who have no clue about how farming is conducted, or about what happens if you don't spray for bugs/worms/weeds. You end up with no crop. I try and explain that to people, but if they've never spent time on a farm or gone through a growing season they just can't understand it. Such is life.

So true.

LOL - every time I post that story on an internet forum, some angry Vegan bozo responds with crap like this. So you are saying that pale skinny vegan kid who had no energy was just a figment of my buddy's imagination? What a joke. Hey, I am sure there are healthy vegan people somewhere, and even healthy vegan kids, but the adults have to be very careful to ensure those growing kids still get all of the nutrients they need, and I'm sorry but eating a few carrots and a hamburger bun isn't going to do it for a 12 year old boy. They need a lot of calories and protein. And if you don't know what you are doing, and just following some kind of stupid fad to sound cool to your fellow Vegan pals and Yuppie buds then you need to actually do the work so you don't hurt your kids and stunt their growth. That's all I am saying.

LOL this reminded me of a story a friend of mine told me about how his 12 year old son had a bunch of his friends over for his birthday party. My friend was at the barbecue all afternoon grilling up tons of burgers and hotdogs as of course 12 year old boys can eat constantly, when this little pale kid comes up to him and asks him just for a hamburger bun and some carrots. Apparently his parents were forcing him to be a "vegan" and he couldn't eat any meat. My friend said this kid had no energy, and could barely play with the other boys. He looked pale and so unhealthy. I get it if you believe in this organic thing and want to waste your money on it, but turning your poor kids into vegans is just plain wrong.

One thing you have to look for with organic food is ecoli bacteria, a real issue with organic food. Over 50 "organic" eaters in Germany either died or were forever disabled by ecoli bacteria they ate with organic food (bean sprouts) back in 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Germany_E._coli_O104:H4_outbreak I'm not sure if washing the food first helps with ecoli, the Wikipedia write-up isn't very clear.

I won't argue about watching what you eat and making sure that you eat stuff you aren't allergic too. Food allergies are a big thing and a lot of people aren't even aware that they are eating food they are allergic to. Then they change their diets and they feel a lot better. Makes total sense. So eating healthy and eating vegetables - awesome. Paying three times as much for basically the same food - your choice, but that just tells me you have too much money.

I agree. It's your money, if you want to pay all that money to get the false feeling of better health, go for it. Just leave me alone and don't make me listen to your babbling about it. I was paired up last summer while golfing with some teacher who wanted to tell me how she was a vegetarian and how wrong I was to eat meat, I just wanted to golf and not listen to this crap. At the fifteenth hole the golf course had beer babes grilling and selling hot dogs, so I made a point of buying two and eating them right in front of her, while she complained the whole time and told me all I was eating were "chemicals". "You mean chemicalicious" I responded. Those were probably the best hot dogs I've ever eaten, because I knew it bothered this sanctimonious prude so much.

LOL - you are ingesting the same "poisons" as me, if indeed there are any (which if you wash your food it shouldn't matter) but you are paying three times as much. That's the issue here. You are being totally screwed over and paying three times as much for the same food that I eat. All you really are paying for is the right to walk around preaching about how much better of a person you are for eating organic. I get it all the time. My business partner only eats "organic" eggs, which cost $2 an egg. I laugh at him every time for spending that much on eggs, and he gives me the spiel about the documentary he watched blah blah blah and I laugh some more at how naïve he is. I grew up eating "organic" eggs from our barn. We were dumb I guess and just called them "eggs". If we had only known city people were so gullible...we could have been raking in way more cash just by adding one word to the description, and selling the exact same product.

I watched all the TSN Jets games this year but I had to get the Center Ice package to do it. You should have let me know you wanted to watch a few games, I'd have invited you to my office in the Landmark towers.

LOL - my cousin has an organic orchard here in Kelowna. He says that the mantra of the organic grower here is "we spray at night". The whole organic thing is sooo stupid, but a clever way to get people to pay three times as much for the same food. And I say this having grown up on a farm. If you don't spray, you don't have a crop. And that's just how it is.

I don't mind Safeway and Save-On. I hate bagging my own groceries, just a pet peeve. And it bugs me when they ask me how many bags do I want. How should I know? 20? 30? 3? I don't even know why they have check-out people at Superstore, they just run things over a scanner. They could train monkeys to do that.

Isn't this some sort of small Australian bear? Koala's aren't bears, they're a marsupial.