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You know it's not just this thread and the title of threads often has very little to do with their content, right?

More Rider than Bomber banter around here these days. The Rider fans are living rent free in a bunch of poster's heads. Might as well change the name of the site to Morning Green Haters. How 'bout that Calgary game this week eh?

Yes, Edmonton will be easier to beat when they don't have anything to play for and they don't have their starting QB. Yes, I think the Riders would have beaten Edmonton anyway. You gotta look at both sides of the equation. If we'd already played Calgary twice, like Regina has, instead of Edmonton, I'd bet we'd have 1 less win than we currently have.

Sure, and the Riders most likely would have too.

This game is like most before it. The formula is, stop our running game and force Streveler to beat us with his arm. Montreal failed miserably at it an lost. I wouldn't try to confuse BLM. He's seen everything before and will find holes very quickly. He'll beat the blitz more often than not, so I'd use it sparingly. Beating Calgary is the opposite of beating us. Force them to run the ball or BLM will beat you with his arm.

I'm not sure what you're reading into my post. I said that beating bad teams early in the season, like we did, is the same as beating bad teams at the end of the season like the Riders most likely will.

IMO the most likely scenario is: Wpg and Calgary split giving both teams 11 wins. Riders beat BC and Edm to get 12 wins. Calgary beats BC to get 12 wins. The 2nd Skn/Edm game decides first/second place. Wpg gets 3rd.

BC isn't much better. They've just been beating truly bad teams (plus Montreal without Adams, a game they should have lost anyway) over the last month. Riders and Stamps would beat them with or without Reilly. Ottawa was lucky to win a couple early. They haven't been any good all season long. Not sure why you'd bring them up. Neither the Riders, nor the Stamps play them again anyway and 2 of the Redblacks wins were against Calgary and Regina. Edmonton was better early on. They still had problems scoring TD's even tho they were putting up huge passing numbers. Harris going down makes it easier to beat them now than it was before.

I see very little difference between a bad team with something to play for and a bad team with nothing to play for. If we hadn't played the bad teams early, we wouldn't have the record we currently have.

Winnipeg had the soft games early. Riders have them late. BC has been bad all season long. Losing Reilly doesn't change much, just makes it slightly easier to win.

Probably the same guys who pick Nichols when we win.

Man this is tedious. Just ignore him. He'll go away on his own.

I thought that was an interesting call. Twisting a guys ankle has happened several times this year. When caught it's been a 15 yard penalty. Last night it was 25 and an ejection. Sounds like they are sending a message that it won't be tolerated anymore, which is good IMO.

Calgary and Regina both have a game in hand so it would be Cal, SSK, Wpg.

It's not about entitlement or having to be told what to think. There's a difference between not giving up information that may be useful to other teams and directly lying to the Media. MOS directly, unabashidly, and confidently lies. Kinda Trump like.

Never understood why anyone believes anything MOS says to the media. Dude lies to them all the time.

Maybe Bridge was one of the 'vet' QB's. On FB, someone wondered if this means that Streveler is hurt.

Collaros isn't any better this year than those guys and we'll start Streveler in the playoffs anyway, unless he's hurt.

What's the over/under of Collaros lasting a full game? 6 plays? 7? More or less? Yup... I hate this trade, not for what we gave up, but for what we got in return. I'd rather have Franklin, Jennings, even Bridge as the backup to Streveler and yes I know none of them are any good, but they can all last a game or two if needed.

The old 'you can't fire a guy unless you know who his replacement is and that replacement will guaranteed to be better. As there are no guarantees, we should keep the current guy' argument. First things first. Is MOS the guy we want to run the team for the next 3 years? Will he bring back his current OC and DC? Will he bring back Nichols and/or Streveler? Will he change anything if he gets 3 more years? Second thing: No one knows who might be as good or better. How many, without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, thought that Dickenson in Regina or Khari in Montreal were going to have the level of success that they've had? There were no guarantees that Steinauer was going to be good either. Lots of folks thought Claybrooks was going to be the next big thing at HC.

Sometimes the guy that takes a team from horrible to respectable isn't the guy that can take the team to the next level.

It's not one or the other. It's both.

Put me on record as saying I don't want Collaros. I'd prefer Franklin if Toronto's dealing a QB.

The biggest flaw is the defence. Two weeks ago the offence, with Streveler, did more than enough to get the win. The defence lost that game. Last week both the offence and the defence lost the game. Note that doesn't mean that defence has been the problem all year, just 3 of the last 4 games. Unless PLAP calls deep shots, Streveler won't show if he can or can't make the throws. I'd like to see the first play of the game this week be a deep throw to loosen up the Riders D. Make it or not, the DB's will have to respect it. More likely though, it will be a run or dump to Harris.

BS. I don't hate or criticize all things Bombers. For example, I've been pumping Streveler as the starting QB for about a year now and I'm firmly on his side now he has the reins. Being met with skepticism isn't the same thing as others being right. Fans dismiss most things that get in the way of a Bomber love fest.