ShyGuy

So Jake Ceresna had his knee pop out on a play, gets it popped back in and he ends up needing the cart to get him off the field later in the game. And yesterday he was listed as a full participant and is available for tomorrow. Is there some place I can make a prop bet that he gets carted off again this week?

I think I almost prefer Wilson as the short yardage back at this point... that play they run where he creeps along the LoS and getting over the edge they sometimes run seems like a better plan than always pushing forward for 1.5 yards... it worked nice in the West Finals and it almost broke against the Stamps at one point.

The Bombers Claimed the 2 worst plays of Week 7 per 3DownNation Not clear which play they picked for Streveler, the momentum crushing pick in the end zone, or the back-breaking pick-6.

https://3downnation.com/2025/07/21/edmonton-elks-mark-kilam-non-committal-on-canadian-qb-tre-fords-starting-status-after-benching/ What was old is new again

This kind of stuff is hard to look up. Obviously if the timing was right and Walters was out Ted Goveia would have been next man up... Has there been much overall success with hiring a GM outside of the organization and keeping the HC on? It seems like for the most part the incoming GM would want their guy in there. Looking at current staffs it looks like the only team with a coach not hired by the GM is Hamilton? And Milanovic is just in his second year there. I guess the statement here is that yeah it's probably easier to replace the GM, but historically I think that ends up with a HC replacement pretty soon thereafter.

Conspiracy theory time... maybe Arbuckle is the #1 QB in the Toronto. Kelly coming back off his broken leg, allegedly back at training, then apparently he gets a ingrown toe nail and now it's been 7 weeks on the 1-Game IR, Toronto is looking like **** and apparently he is rehabbing in Buffalo. Maybe he's never coming back

Dustin Crum is "but we have Chris Streveler at home" personified.

Bob Dyce throwing that he can't imagine how that isn't an ejection before they cut away from him during the HT interview

Crum into the game for Ottawa after an insane head shot RTP by Amos

I miss Rasheed Bailey

Alexander ruled out week 8

Would it be more or less bush league than announcing a 7% rise to the cap 4 days after free agency opens?!?

The reason I made it as a "rumour" is that there was a followup posted on 3DownNation with some quotes from front office staff https://3downnation.com/2025/03/27/cfl-salary-cap-increase-not-set-in-stone-cflpa-still-working-through-revenue-share-allocation/ And I don't think invoking Stegall is the counter argument you think it is? Having the greatest WR in league history on the roster and making it to the Grey Cup twice sucks. Him having a pupuplatter of QBs to throw to him is obviously roster mismanagement. What is the point of having Kenny Lawler on the team when you have 2 QBs where the starter was 5/16 on passes >20 Depth yards going into Week 7, and the backup has an average depth of target of 8.5 yards, Lawler is leading the league in 20+ depth targets at 16. On the Bombers this year you'd have him blowing the top off the coverage and no one to actually have the ball make it to him. His average DOT last year (16.6) actually isn't that far off from this year (17.8)... but he already almost has as many 20+ targets (16 vs 21) and more receptions (9 vs 10). If you want a team with exciting players, Lawler on the Bombers is a great fit. If you want a team that is going to be competitive you can better use that money somewhere else. But the only reason we are wasting so much time discussing this, is that Lawler is having Bo toss him the ball, which is a match made in heaven for him, and the Bombers essentially used the money they would have given Lawler on J Jones and D Mitchell... both of which the Bombers refuse to put onto the active roster.

110/300 is still around a third of the way to Lawler. Someone rightfully mentioned J Jones and Mitchell sitting on the 1 game, that right there is almost a Lawler... but as I kind of mused about above I don't really thing a Lawler type is a luxury this team can really utilize. The rumoured increase in the cap... who knows where that went. A lot of the talent... even if they wanted to stay some of those contracts are woof. 260K for Drew Desjarlais, 215K for Hardrick, 205K for Dobson, 230K for Ford, Some of the ones that got away that I feel hurt because those contracts ended up being pretty reasonable (or they just decided not to play)... Stove Richardson, Casey Sayles, Jeffcoat, J Grant... I'm actually drawing a blank on players the Bombers didn't bring back that had some success with their new teams... Desjarlais got an East All Star Nod, Same with Sayles... Adams had one season he almost hit 1K receiving yards. Brown is looking somewhat promising but no matter how much you invoke Wally Buono I don't think anyone is going to move on from a QB that was back to back MOP and probably finished 3rd in 2023... unless he literally managed to lose a leg at some point between the 2023 grey cup and the opening of free agency... and even then with how the Bombers have treated their guys in free agency with injuries probably not even then. I dunno... I am kind of working myself in circles looking at rosters from 2019 on. It seemed like the Bombers were just REALLY good at having those elite guys who made a bunch of money, and then filling the roster around them... but as the years have gone by, those Elite guys are pretty much the same (Jefferson, Bryant, Collaros,, Demski, I'm gonna combine Harris and Oliveira into 'Elite Canadian RB'... Bighill and Alexander... but at least they cut losses there)... and now those players are no longer near elite but the players they have been bringing in as support have just been for the most part huge whiffs. 2021 they bring in Dee Alford, Nichols, Rose, Houston and Darby for Corners. 2022 is Ford, Holm and Parker. This year you have Bonds and Bridges out there and it seems like there is a broken coverage every quarter. Nichols always seems to be chasing someone... is he covering for mistakes or has he mysteriously fallen off because he was lights out last year. Are the Bombers unable to bring in talent these days because incoming players know that the mafia has their guys and they will never get their shot? Are they just on a really poor run of identifying talent? Do they have too much confidence in the medical staff / how players are telling them they feel? Some combination or the above? Like mentioned above, you can exchange Thomas and Kolo (who are definitely O'Shea's type of player) for replacement types and Schoen coming off a knee injury for Kenny Lawler. The Bombers definitely have a history of very... questionable roster decisions around injuries. Streveler back this year off his ACL. Schoen ACL. Bighill, Schoen, Bailey and Collaros playing in the 2023 Grey Cup all clearly injured. Collaros coming back into the game in 2024. A 38 year old Bryant collapses in a game last year. Neufeld admittedly playing injured all last year. Oliveira getting injured in camp and playing the first few games. J Grant busting up his ankle on a rush he ends up diving up the middle and the Bombers move on. So many weird decisions. I apologize for the rambly nature of the above

Jake and Kolo have both never appeared on the highest paid players list, they are probably making somewhere between $100-$120K. Even if they aren't around you still have to replace them with at least a minimum salary guy (which may or may not actually be an improvement... probably for Thomas, maybe not for a center).. so at 70K you are saving about 50K a head and you are still only a third of the way to Lawler. If you are talking about dudes with experience to replace Kolo, McEwen got 150K or so from the Riders, but he is 32 and not really a long-term play. Beard, also at 32, got 197K from Edmonton... and surprise! Both of those guys are injured. It seemed for the longest time Eli was going to be the plan at centre... who knows what is happening there. Both the lines have way too many way too old guys on it.

Bombers have their kids combine on Monday. Maybe they can find some bodies for the d line meat grinder there. They would come cheap tol

This is how the Kenny Lawler discourse feels like sometimes

Wolitarsky still hasn't played a game yet this season after missing 8 last year. I'm not sure how well Zach going '**** it, Kenny down there somewhere' would work out when he is one of the worst at passes 20+ yards deep the last 2 seasons.

https://www.cfl.ca/2025/07/18/greene-picks-it-in-the-end-zone-and-shuts-the-door/ I dunno looking at the replay as Streveler flicks the pass at him he pretty much steps moving, goes down to a knee to make sure he is still in the end zone and watches the ball move towards him. If Streveler was set and could get some zip onto it, or if the Stamps were running the same coverage the Bombers were when Rhymes scored his TD... but the Bombers had 4 receivers on that side of the field, it looks like they ran a lineman down to the goal line, Demski was sat down just on the other side of the goal line, and it looks like they were trying to clear out the top with Sterns... Clercius ran an out above 5 yards deep before creeping back... I think you have to expect that there will be a defender lurking somewhere around that point. If he takes 1 or 2 steps towards the ball instead of stopping, either he catches it and the Bombers try to push it forward, or Greene runs through him and there is maybe a call.

That pick in the 3rd was the turning point for sure. Whole team just delated like a sad balloon after that. Streveler needs to know not to make that pass, you are 1st and 7 and Brady was feasting, get rid of it or push yourself forward to make it 2nd and 5 or whatever... But I don't know what Clercius was doing there, he just sat down at the front of the end zone by the pylon hoping the ball makes it to him... Streveler scrambling and is about to throw off balance, go get the damn ball even if you catch it at the 1 or 2 and hope you can make a play, instead Greene jumps right in front of him and it ends up being curtains.

Looking at the stats, Collaros is throwing it a bit deeper per attempt (9.4 depth yards vs 8.5 depth yards) but Streveler was way more successful on passes 20+ deep at a similar pace... against BC he was 4/5 whereas in Collaros' 3 games he has been 5/16 and has 2 picks. Kind of points to the fact that Collaros really doesn't have much going on those deep passes... the only QBs worse than Collaros percentage wise are Masoli (known to be cooked) and Shiltz and Crum... anyone clamoring for the good old days the actual started closest to Collaros is Brown at 37.5% (6/17)... there must be something in the water in Ottawa because all those QBs are terrible deep. Oh and I guess MBT is 0-9(!!!!!)

Maybe the plan was to hope that Wilson doesn't catch on with the Jets and falls off quick... but that doesn't seem like a great plan

The calculus for sure isn't Schoen vs Lawler it is Schoen plus whatever they could do with the $120K difference vs Lawler. The big question mark was if Schoen could stay healthy and if they could effectively use that $120K somewhere... and it looks like no on both accounts.

Are we not counting Lawler after his stint in Edmonton?

Who is hoping anything? Do you think BC who can't seem to beat anyone other than the Elks is in a better position than the Bombers? Would you take the Riders aging roster, riddled with injuries led by an aging QB who can't push the ball down the field over the Bombers aging roster, with an sub-optimal active roster led by an aging QB who can't seem to push the ball down the field? Would you take Elks roster who spent like drunken sailors on defense only to end up with objectively the worst defense in the league and are trying to shoehorn Tre Ford into a franchise QB role while giving him no reasonable help on offense? NGL Stamps looking pretty good rn though.