3rdand1.5

The fat lady is singing before half time.....to a 1-6 team

Our D backfield is really bad ...The communication, chemistry understanding is completely absent.... It is like watching 4/5 athletes playing for the first time together for three straight weeks..... Ughhhhhh

For all things holy.....please give Case some new cleats without vaseline......

Yes!!! that's a key I didn't think of....guys are thinking and not reacting it seems. That instinctive movement is not there and that millisecond to think is all it takes to be outta position or a step behind.....

Yes......it's like I said, we seem to to be missing the communication aspect....the communication has seemed to be poor......I think this is also amplifying guys being slower. It's so frustrating because on defence we have been "mostly" healthy

Stearns and Case etc. are not terrible, but they are not what we need......They can be fine in the right situation like WBBfan says a 5th forgotten about guy that can use the elusiveness for the odd play...I don't believe that they are #2 quality every down guys...maybe they could be one day but today they are not.....I think I have come to the realization that I am not mad at the individual, it's the situation, yes they "are all starters" but Ayers is not an end, Case is not a #2 receiver, Stearns is not a #2 receiver, Clercious is not a #2 receiver, and Demski nor Wheatfall are not a #1 receiver...Wheatfall may grow into it...maybe.....Heck Wilson if we get him back is not a #1 receiver yet. I get injuries happen and Schoen being out again sucks....but we can't IMO play guys in positions that they not capable of.......well actually you can in say the 5th receiver spot or in certain formations as an example perhaps having Ayers in almost as hybrid a 4 LB set. But you can't play them in elevated positions or we see what we saw the last few games.....Look I like Ayers, but he does not do well at end, I like Stearns and Case if used properly, all three as examples have skill sets.....but we are failing them trying to for lack of a better term square peg, round hole them. Speaking of round peg square hole, without BA and Biggie, someone needs to communicate better on D...we are missing the leadership/communication...far too often this year we are seeing communication errors......example Holm on two guys...but there have been many......how many crossing routes against us have we seen our guys make an error....I am not sure who it is this year, but if it is Parker and Jones, they need to do better...if it someone else they need to do better, it's week 8........this is preseason mistakes, someone needs to step up and be the guy.....look athleticism is great, but certain roles require other skill sets and it appear to me we are missing many of these other skill sets..... Person got in, and got a few snaps, perhaps he continues, and we solve the end issue, what we are going to do with the receivers is tough with Schoen out (6 gamed), and Demski being used like he is it's only a matter of time till he gets knicked...I am unsure...... I am also not ready to write off Strev. yet......but he needs guys he can throw to, guys he can build some chemistry with.......that's another thing I have noticed a lack of chemistry between our QB's and our receivers....,How many picks...and heck pick sixes has this cost us this year....

There were so many vital mistakes, mistakes a team should not be making in it's 5th game. D-line coming clean through the A gap against us, Holm covering two receivers with no help, Bridges stopping and letting his guy blow by him, Forced balls from QB's, receivers falling down, selfish penalties, apparent lack of energy......... Even with all that our offence while bad almost had enough to take the lead in the second half.....I really like Strev but that pick was the end of the offence last night...all the wind came outta the sails right then....on offence we had our top OL out, our top receiver out, and lost our top QB early......at least one can make an excuse for them...the defence though....all healthy...and all terrible....I can't name one defensive player from last night worth praising.....not one.....at least on offence you can say Demski and Brady played damn good, on specials Castillo played damn good, our coverage was good, and Vaval and Case looked capable at returns....that's it, maybe the long snapper.....even the whole energy and aura looked bad last night.....it ruined what something like a 17 game win streak after the bye......yuck

Lawler is really good, but he has not been durable.......

IMO CFL made the absolute wrong decision regarding Lemon....100% should have been a lifetime ban

We are a really good team, we are still one of the best in the league, yes we have a couple guys long in the tooth, and yes rookies don't get on our roster as quick as some other teams, and yes for some unknown to us reason we don't dress a real back-up DE.......and we definitely discuss these concerns, as this forum is for, but with so much negativity in the mainstream news, fires in our backyard and the crap going on in other parts of the world etc. I like to try and focus on the positives where I can. -A win has us tied for first, far better than last year's start..... -The teams finances are the envy of the league... -We are facing down our 8th sellout.... -We have improved beer choices at the game..... -When we go to Sask. we get to leave after..... Go Blue, we will be rested and have solid film to work off, let's get back in W column!

I believe we can get better pressure with better rotation. We need another actual DE on the roster. Looking at the forecast 24C 90% chance of rain and wildfire air advisories.....if we are under 8 and even able to play, it will be Smokey and humid, guys will will need rotation on Friday.

Dillon Mitchel, must have something up, As DT mentioned we tried him at slot and it didn't work and we have never gone back. It has to be something. Case is going into year two, this should be a golden opportunity for him, a chance many never get. I really hope he makes the most of it, do I have some reservations....yes, but let's hope he gives us some production, honestly Schoen hasn't exactly been lighting up the stat sheets himself.....My biggest concern is Zach now going to get hyper focused on Demski again.....

Two question ... Did Ray trip on his sack....it looked like on the replay he leg whipped and tripped....did anyone else see it or did I miss see it? Why did the endzone pick and fumble not end up Cal. Ball?

Ya don't like to admit it, but Cal. Offence looks pretty good....

Where were all these mistakes from Cal last week...uggghhh

My 2 cents Yes, it does feel as if on this board we go down the roster usage hole over and over, and it seems to creep into every thread. Perhaps it is overdone/discussed, and I could see some getting put off or annoyed with it, and yes we have posters with two very opposite opinions of it (one-5 GC's we know what we are doing-two-we are not putting our best athletes on the field and optimizing our roster) To a degree both these opinions have legs to stand on and valid points, I think this is why it comes up over and over. It is also amplified as some of our top posters have strong opinions on this matter. In conclusion yes, this goes round and round, but let's all step back and look at the 10,000ft view and be thankful that we have not just one but two active Bomber forums and that we have enough people and passion to continue to have these discussions.

My two cents Firstly Cal. wanted it more, they hit harder, ran faster and made the tough plays.....we whiffed, seemed sluggish and made mistakes.... Zach had a poor game, but our offence wasn't as bad as it seemed IMO, the line did decent and Brady was doing well...we just got down so quick we went to well....I'm not sure what game plan we went to, but pre-game Flo said there goal was to make us sit back and throw.....and well the executed exactly that...yet some how it feels like we almost let them Defence...ouch, Vaj could smoke a cigar and casually sip an old fashion before he needed to throw the ball....and on the odd play he couldn't he simple moved a little, did a roll and then resumed sipping his drink while looking for receiver. VAJ can be a very good QB, but I think any QB, Crum, Dolegala, Masoli, Arbuckle, hell Alex Moran from BMS could have beaten us last night...... Offence has some goat horns no doubt but defence definitely has the bigger goat horns in this one IMO

Let's just ensure the bad VAJ makes an appearance tonight.......

TSN needs to do something, something in the panel is off. I think Kate is good at speaking and her presence, but the "character" they have her doing isn't working with the viewers. I also feel Henoc has great energy but is not a clear, polished speaker.....he is mumbly, I think he has been poorly cast, he can add something to the panel, but not as a mainstay IMO.

A W....that's the most important...overall need to clean some stuff up, our 3rd quarter was possible the worst quarter we played so far this year....but we got the W and that's the most important.

What the heck is going on this 3rd quarter ..cmon

I think if we handle and frustrate the Elks D-line and run game early we should take this one with little resistance, but IF that D-line and/or running game get some traction against us, they could make it a game. I don't want either their D-line which "should be" really good based on personelle or their run game get any momentum. We know If we can handle the Edm. defensive front the backend isn't as strong, and Ford while an amazing sandlot player isn't going to beat anyone playing a passing game in the pocket. Add in 30,000 plus fans, and perfect weather, we should be set up for a "happy ending"

I am excited to see some of our "newer" Cdn talent. Kelly has shown some flashes, Makonzo has shown flashes, Shay and Smith are highly touted. Lawson has looked good and looks healthy, Clercious, outside of the last game has looked good, Ike is showing flashes, Petterson as well, Wallace is looking very promising...... All together that is a lot of potential and promising CDN talent we are just scratching the surface with, I really want to see all of them get some rotations, get up to speed and get the chance to prove/show that they can turn into our next crop of CDN's. However we don't need any of them to be thrown to the wolves, we have the luxury of bringing them along patiently..... although it does sometimes feel like it's too patiently...I expect hope as teh season progresses more of them will see some increased loads.... Back to this game...Ayers seems quick and to be a reliable tackler...can one of the guys/gals who know more about him then I do, let me know if I he may be a fit at DE against a guy like Ford. He is smaller and younger than our true ends, but he may be able to hold contain better against an athlete who plays sandlot football like Ford.....or maybe I am thinking way too much into the contain game.....I just don't want to see Ford breaking contain and making an explosion play again....

Eli as a TE/6 OL to assist in blocking...EDM has a very, very good DL and if he does sneak out now after the highlight reel grab last week....he will have to be respected even as a decoy... It doesn't effect the ratio and a healthy ELI, I agree is better overall to the team than a hobbling Demski. (for clarification...no I am not suggesting he is the better receiver, just perhaps a better overall fit against a really good D-line compared to a receiver who is hurt)

Good All our DB's All our LB's (that played) Wheetfall Eli with a TD...... Specials BC's Team Ted shirts 2and 0 Bad 2nd half Zach Didn't love some of teh play calls on O especially in the 3rd O-line wasn't great Willie getting himself ejected Clercuius had a bad game, no ifs and butts, if he is hurt sit him and let him get healthy Ugly Listening to TSN go on and on and on about Rourke.... Lack of depth at NI reciever-Clercuous played hurt and Demski clearly was hurting.....We need better depth here Lack of D-line depth....more specifically end....Willie and Vaughters are older, and while still good, I strongly believe they need to be spelled off more I also question the bolded part....I think each week that path is getting narrower