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Only two more years until MOS+KW get another 3 year extension.

Again how can we blame brown?
Guy hasn't been given a chance to get the ball lol
The defense has had 3 stops all game. Literally

Blaming Brown would be like blaming Oliviera for not having a 100 yard game. The malaise is endemic.

brown hasn’t been an issue once tonight. Elsbury has been bad but the play call is horrid. no one is winning with this crap

Yup..needing a big play or break to win..or losing because we gave up one at a critical time isnt what good teams do.
Almost that game was kinda the must win in my opinion..would have gave us a bit of a buffer and seeing as we have the series on sask would have had us ahead of them if they lost..and the game in hand with Stamps still..so we had a little less urgency and some room for error..a bit...now we have none...and to expect us to not toss up a steamy pile..or 2 with the games left in front of us doesn't look too promising based on what we have witnessed the first 14 games
My gut says end to 10 wins or more run..playoff appearance..and a likely last place in West finish..basically a continue of the 5 yr trend of less wins...place in standings..and when we lose in playoffs to the absolute bottom of where we can go..Last place...under 500...and the good chance that 2027 is more of same with no shift/change in coaching...if peoples eyes were open and they put aside their "yeah butts" they'd have seen it plain as day..I did..I said it..and people laughed and said I was full of **** and lacked credibility..not a "i told ya so" kinda guy...but I told ya

We have the worst receiving corps in the CFL. The decision to play who we got is a result of BAD COACHING. Osh wouldn't know a receiver from a school crossing guard. We haveby far, the dumbest head coach in the CFL leading this team. Proof of that was not playing Singer over Cobb this season.
We also have the worst OC in Condell calling plays & you hang this loss on Brown??? HFS, man. This is all a product of BAD COACHING. Having a total dumbass as head coach along with the shittiest assistant coaching staff in the CFL.

You don't fail so spectacularly after looking so good multiple times if it's a player issue. That's 100% a coaching issue. Teams adjust and our coach can't figure out how to make adjustments.

Man, posters here sure complained how we let the only qb we developed since Dieter Brock walk away in free agency. The moaning & complaining that went on here when he left for Ottawa in free agency was very loud. Then, to give Walters some credit (which I very seldom do anymore) he trades for Brwon & brings him back. Now, suddenly Brown's a shitty qb??? Give me a break.
Elgersma is a tank. We can only hope he develops but with no qb coach & Condell the OC, it's a huge question mark. If I was Osh, since he gives his player buddies like Miller & Thomas coaching jobs, offer the QB Coach position to Collaros.

It looked like the Edmonton game when...(checks notes) Zach was playing. @17to85 is correct.

Why are people shitting on Brown when this is not the first time we've seen with offense go from looking good to inept within a game regardless of who the qb is?
Know what that tells me? It's coaching.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

Interesting to see how certain teams/players behave when faced with unexpected adversity. Perfectly exemplified by Montreal/Alexander and Sask/Harris. During their losing efforts with the Bombers it seemed like there wasn't a play that went by for either team where someone wasn't whining for a penalty or complaining about something.

No matter how bad things have gotten this year for the Blue we have not seen that kind of whiny attitude from them. Small mercy but an appreciated one nonetheless.

I’ve heard around these parts for years that db’s are a dime a dozen. I’d hate to lose Vaval as a special teamer it’s a huge part of our game, ie instant field position.

D was fine on labour day too IMO. Just the offense hung them out to dry entirely

Kramdi really helped set the tone for physical play. And Jones being a dink to the opposition every time it a good thing too. Get that nasty edge going. Make it a slog for offenses. We all saw Harris with his palms up and lower lip dropping but another guy who did not enjoy his experience was Johnson (the good one). He had a miserable experience that game and I love that for him and the riders

I agree totally when our defence plays a bit nasty we get lots better results. Jones did that in the Montreal game and really threw Alexander off his game, and this game with him and Kramdi disrupting it put Harris off his game too, you could see little things like timing of throws and just being off target enough at the right time. Don't have to play dirty to injure or anything, but being a wee bit chippy sure doesn't hurt.

Harris is a whiney baby, and a real baby cat....as the actual word will get censored.
Team came out actually prepared but there were some moments again in the Jekyll and Hyde mode but for most part we weathered it and as seen when you roster the best roster you can (save for C) and use guys in roles best suited for them, (more on that later) you get what we saw.
Boys actually brought the intensity and played with anger. Especially on defense...Kramdi return obviously fueled that somewhat, prob his best game ever but he was also used differently and more where I have said he would thrive...mucking it up lower in the box...coming down hill and pressing the l.o.s...Was minimal in coverage and it was effective, as he sucks in coverage and before the yeah butter's say he got in INT...yeah he did...but was from just being in space and ball just popped over to him...He had poor coverage on the actual reciever, not sure who he was even covering to be honest but good on him being alert and ready. My only criticism of him is sure he made a couple impact plays but the dude needs to really learn to tackle and wrap a guy up and not dive at shins or torpedo into upper bodies...He had at least 3 plays again where he did that and the guys justkept on goin as he bounced off...Gotta fixtah up but not sure if he can/will as its been his technique since day one...But his addition back to defence definitely made us better...Now lets punt kelly off...And as mentioned in convoy with Griffin he says he will be back "soon" so hopefully it gets Kelly to the bench, especially as we dont need that as a Ratio need
Like the role now Younger has put Jones in...He got exposed a few times but inconsequential, but like Kramdi he has been limited on his drops and cover responsibilities and been allowed to just get at it...and he plays a bit like a knob..as does Kramdi and we need that as it permeates thru the defence...Jones new responsibilities totally coincide with Smith's play and his ability to crash the line and play inside...obliterate the run but also can cover a teams top slot...And as you can see is an extremely smart player and soaks up coaching like a sponge and doesn't make repeat errors...You can see it in his play as the season advances...we need to extend him pronto before he is gonna be commanding more loot...and or be a hot FA target
Younger has been slowly morphing the defense but also seeing what pieces fit best where so needs to be kept up....With Wiliams being an absolute baller,,,Vaval showing he can be that other aggressive corner, and hopefully Griffin back sooner than later we have makings of a real good defense.
Osh put together a good squad for this game...and actually had his head in it too and utilized his challenge without hesitation for once and generally had his team engaged....Props to him there, my only critique is when you finally roster legit DA's...actually use them! Jaworski and Womack played teams and I saw good things there...Womack got few snaps on offence but I don't recall seeing Jaworski but maybe missed his snaps...none the less was our best lineup all yr...
Offence....hmmmmm...TC is a guy who I don't think even has a game plan or any sequencing of plays that make any sense...Just spit balling and tossing things out there
I really liked that we actually went to some true sprint outs where ZC would totally change launch point well away from anyone....and trickery on the Oline to draw defense totally away from =him...and some milder roll outs...and was effective...The Neild TD being a perfect example...then would go to static drop back plays where we got killed...and he just kept doing it...Like dude are you even watching?? When we use the oline in sync with BO...and with multiple slide protections and movin the launch points...we are pretty efficient...so to keep straying way from it when teams aren't adapting is just poor coaching and makes zero sense
And i gonna keep saying the majority of the issues is center and his inability to set the line up properly, plus he gets beaten physically too easily as well, but with a rookie American center who is seeing things for first time...would anyone expect anything better than what we seeing..There is a reason you never see Import centers, especially as a rookie...Just plain dumb coaching. We had a guy Ibisi who did it...But he was a brute..aggressive and athletic...not to mention mean...but please someone list all the great Import centers in last 20+ yrs....I'll wait
Some here say ELI sucks...based on what..when has he been given a 2..3 game run....never...when he has been dropped in with no reps during the week he has been just fine and no worse than anyone else....and again before the yeah buts start their retort sure he has been here a few yrs but the coaches absolutely love what he can do in the extra guy role, and he can play guard if need be so they pidgoen holed him there...and when ole Kolo was here he was a poor choice as 6th as all he was was a middling center and offered no real coverage.
Until I see a block of games where he looks worse than anyone ever as some suggest...then I will maybe change the opinion but the opinion he isnt starting cause Osh and his "staff" want someone else holds no weight, as we have seen in multiple positions a lesser skilled guy play over the better one, and or allowed to just be mediocre and suck cause thats just who they like...we seeing it now....
None the less if we can actually build on this ...which is almost 2.5 great complete games outta the last 4 then optimism should be there and second place should be totally doable, it's all up to the coaching now to get us there....From what I seen from Edm game to the last one the trend "looks" moe to be an upward one...but that also has coincided too with some player changes...and usage...Shouldnt have took 13 games tho to realize it.
Ohh...forgot about my thoughts re:offence...ZC doesnt have the arm now to make the forced tight throws into double/trip0le coverage, and also to me it seems he is having processing and decision making issues upstairs...has he taken too many shots?...is he playing panicked..compromised?..Unsure but he's too experienced, and he's also way too intelligent to be making rookie type mistakes out there...Something aint right....But....If we use the system we did where we have success with Dru....moving the pocket all over...sprint outs...roll outs designed with actual receivers on both sides of center...we'd be just fine if ZC is out long term and Brown would thrive in that...Does TC see that tho....thats the big assed question
Oh and I made it home safe and sound...Never got beat up by any bully...lol...
@SpeedFlex27 tho said he was gonna toss me around tho and to smarten up when we met up hahaah...

Enough with Collaros already. Ive been more than done with him for years now, but this season has to be the end. The guy would get injured in a pillow fight with my 8 year old daughter. His brain is cooked, his arm his cooked, cant take the slightest hit, eats sacks like its his day job, and at 38 years old he still makes brain-dead throws every game that a 21 year old rookie would make. That 2nd INT was an f'ing joke. Whos makes that throw?!? Ive lost count at how many times he's turned the ball over on brain-dead plays in the red zone this season. You just cant do that. Move on with Brown for better or for worse and let Elgersma learn behind him. Enough already.