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  1. 1 minute ago, LeBird said:

    MOS: Johnny, we're sitting you this week

    Adams: Trade me

    I doubt this was the case, more like dealing from an area of strength and getting a return on an asset that was going to walk at the end of the year for nothing. I will be honest, at the beginning of the year if you told me we were right in the thick of a playoff run and we were going to trade Johnny Adams, no way I would believe it but watching the season unfold this is just good asset management.

  2. 2 hours ago, BomberBall said:

    Well said.  Although I'm not a fan of reviewing PI, if they're going to do it, I like the idea of not allowing it to be reviewed in slow-motion.

    Agreed. You can't fault the refs on the field for not being able to slow time down and make the correct call. Replay should be used to overturn egregious errors that can directly change the outcome of the game. Whether or not a guy made a small tug on the jersey when you zoom in at 200x does not.

  3. 4 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

    Could be a guy who gets a look this year, could be one of the guys brought in now to get a head start for camp next year. Certainly will be interesting to follow. 

    Maybe Adams is moving into next year and if Sheppard is out a few weeks we needed to backfill the WR spot anyways. Mayo has looked good in his opportunities so I would assume he gets first crack at the lineup but if Outlaw comes in and performs in practice then that's just another guy who can step in when we need him.

  4. 5 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

    He had a little counter culture / cult following there and in general. Lots of fans of teams disappointing even angry he was let go. Very good arm for sure. Not talking michael bishop arm strength, Well in the tier under that. Which is certainly strong enough to throw any pass you could want short of like 80+ yards. 

    Interesting prospect for sure. I would think at 28 years old we would have to make a call on him sooner rather than later, maybe the end of Dominique Davis after this season?

  5. 1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

    I said at the beginning of the season that a home playoff game was my answer to what O'Shea needed to do to get an extension. Simply making the playoffs wasn't enough then and is certainly not enough now that we've got 8 wins with 6 games left because that means winning one or two out in the last third of the season.

    It depends on which playoff game we are in and how we play. If it's an at home game and we are close but no cigar, then sure, I'd extend O'Shea. If it's a blowout game in someone else's field (IE if we are 3rd or a cross over), then I'd think long and hard about if O'Shea has shown enough over 3 years to get an extension. No playoff wins would definitely affect the extension offer... 2, not 3 years and the dollars would be less than winning a playoff game or at least hosting one. That's another reason I'd wait until the season is over to extend O'Shea.

    I don't see how blowing up the past three years and starting all over again with a new staff will accomplish anything. For one, there are no real attractive candidates out there to replace him except for retreads (Higgins, Chamblin). It doesn't make sense to me to promote either of LaPolice or Hall and if you don't extend O'Shea you also lose his abilities as a ST coach and no one can argue the success we have had in that area since he took over from Pat Tracey.

    Any momentum this team would have from getting into the playoffs would be erased and once again we would start at the bottom looking up at the rest of the West. Everyone would ***** and moan about how we have a journeyman QB getting on in years and spent too much money on an aging vet WR past his prime. Next thing you know it's another goddamn rebuild and who knows how long until we climb out of that hole.

    Walters and O'Shea have done a terrific job of restoring this roster to one that can win every week. Canadian and import depth is at the best state we have seen in years. Our o-line is improving every week and when we suffer injuries the next man up comes in and performs to the point that we wonder when/if the injured player gets back in because he has to earn it back.

    But yeah if we lose a playoff game let's torch the **** thing.

  6. 10 minutes ago, Brandon said:

    Wow my brain is definitely not functioning..  (I have a 3 week old baby at home).....   Thorpe is the obvious choice duh!!

    I wonder if Thorpe bolts to Edmonton to replace Maas and Benevides?  

     

    Benevides maybe, but I think Maas gets at least one more year in Edmonton before they axe him. Maas may have to can Benevides to appease the masses if they bow out early (or miss the playoffs altogether).

    Other than Montreal, who else would have an HC opening? I heard on the radio today that Milanovich's job may be up for grabs but that would be foolish for Toronto to do and I honestly don't see it happening especially given what they just gave up for Willy, a guy who Milanovich was vouching for.

  7. 9 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

    Most Outstanding Player - Andrew Harris

    Most Outstanding Canadian - Andrew Harris

    Most Outstanding Defensive Player - Maurice Leggett

    Most Outstanding Lineman - Travis Bond

    Most Outstanding Special Teams Player - Justin Medlock

    Most Outstanding Rookie - Kevin Fogg (Loffler if Fogg isn't eligible)

    I was gonna post my own but they are a carbon copy of yours. I think the list will change by season's end a little but at this point that's what I would go with.

  8. 1 minute ago, voodoochylde said:

    It takes time to convince some of these guys to actually come up North to play.  Some of the people we've seen step in this season have been on our radar for a few years.  They've only just now committed to the CFL.

    Very true. Not often do you see guys like Vernon Adams (as an example) come right up after passing through the NFL draft and they instead exhaust any and all opportunities south of the border. These guys hang around on practice rosters for the better part of 2-4 years and then lose eligibility. TJ Heath is a 29 year old CFL rookie after all.

  9. 1 hour ago, holoman said:

    2009- Lefors, Bishop, Williams, Bramlet, Randall,

    2010- Pierce, Jyles, Brink, Elliott

    2011 Pierce, Elliott, Brink, Goltz

    2012- Pierce, Brink, Elliott, 

     2013 Pierce, Goltz, Hall Boltus

    2014 Willy, Marve, Brohm

    2015 Willy Marve brohm, Nichols, Davis

    2016 Willy Nichols

     

     

    Didn't use wikipedia, so there may be a name or 2 missing

     

     

    Edit- Only entered guys who took a useful snap or two

    I would beg you to define how any snaps Jason Boltus took were "useful" lol.

  10. 24 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

    should be frederick. Hope fully we see that next week. 

    One thing that he has really impressed me with is his tackling skills. It was evident in his first start vs Edmonton and obviously the open field tackle on Bridge last week. As 17to85 eluded to above, someone else in the secondary could learn a thing or two from him. Nothing boils my blood more than seeing defenders try to shoulder check instead of making the tackle.

  11. 1 minute ago, Bomber_fanaddict said:

    Funny you mention this. I started doing it. I am starting with a Glenn Jersey from 2009 and was going to run down the starting QBs since then and get all the way back to Glenn (not that I hope that Happens but would look pretty funny). I remember back in 2012 Weiciek saying that we had something glike 24 starting QBs since Glenn but I can't fins that list anywhere. Anyone know where I can find it or have a good list of all the QBs since Kelly released Glenn?

    Off the top of my head:

    Lefors
    Bishop
    Randall
    R. Williams
    Pierce
    Jyles
    Brink
    Elliott
    Goltz
    Hall
    Boltus
    Willy
    Brohm
    Davis
    Nichols

  12. 46 minutes ago, Judd said:

    I have NO problem with NOT "developing" our own qb. Many of the starters in the league started off somewhere else and gained an opportunity when they've proven themselves. But my god it's getting ridiculous already. If Nichols doesn't bring us to the promised land this year I see no way he could in the future. This defence isn't going to last years and field-goaling everyone to death isn't a recipe for success. 

    I don't have a problem with it either, so long as we can procure someone else's QB. Problem is, relying on other teams to scout and develop players for you will come back to bite you when that well dries up and you're left with what you brought in.

  13. 29 minutes ago, Atomic said:

    I think Posey is done for the season.

    So, really, we have four corners (Randle, Adams, Frederick, Roberts) and three halfbacks (Fogg, Johnson, Heath).  I'd rather keep the depth than start shipping players out.  I can't imagine we would get that much in return for an import DB, especially if it's an underperforming guy like B Johnson.  Maybe you could move Roberts to a desperate team for a 6th round pick or something but again, I'd rather keep the depth if we can.  All of them are likely making low salaries outside of Randle and Johnson.

    TBH I didn't even bother to check on Posey's health (and for a while forgot about him completely)

    I guess the return for an import DB would depend on how desperate the team acquiring him would be and their standing for this season. A team like Edmonton may be willing to pay more to shore up a need on a team that probably has championship aspirations whereas a team like Saskatchewan can try to get a return on a player who may be lost for nothing at seasons end.

    The return would also depend on the teams faith in it's US scouting and how they can shore up their depth going into next season.

  14. 2 minutes ago, tracker said:

    I empathize with you. We have had so many mediocre QBs through here since Khari Jones that I have become almost resigned to it. It would be great to have a top-three or four quarterback locked in for 3-5 years to give the team a chance to find and groom a successor.

    We are one of the few teams to be able to find and develop a true star calibre QB in recent years.

    BC - Lulay, Jennings(?) - Lulay's reign was short lived but he had a few great years and a GC ring
    Calgary - Mitchell - they haven't been hurting at QB since the days of Kevin Feterik
    Edmonton - Reilly - Maybe credit for him can go to BC but he only really hit his stride once he signed in Edmonton.
    Sask - Durant - solid QB with GC ring
    Toronto - Collaros, Harris - Only reason one of these guys isn't in Toronto is they had great stability at the position which allowed them time to develop
    Hamilton - one of the only ones with a similar issue at QB development as we do but with the luxury of having one of the best at the position playing for them currently.
    Montreal - surprising how they had no one really develop behind Calvillo despite having Milanovich there for many years.
    Ottawa- only in year 3 so not really a whole lot of precedent here but maybe Jensen in a few years?

    We are the only team in the league with consistent turnover at the position since Glenn left. Someone should start a QB jersey similar to the one that the Browns have, I imagine it would look very similar.

  15. So what's our ideal secondary once everyone is healthy? Randle-Heath-Loffler-Fogg-Adams or does Frederick take over for Adams? What if Adams shows out this week and you can't take him out of the lineup? What about CJ Roberts and Julian Posey? Good problems to have.

    Does Walters use this area of strength to help prop up our team in other areas come trade deadline perhaps? I would think that no less than 3-4 teams (Saskatchewan, Edmonton, Montreal, Ottawa if not more) would appreciate the depth at secondary that we have. It also speaks to the fact that Walters held firm in his ask for Heath when we acquired him from the Argos that maybe he has a plan for the added depth at secondary.

    Maybe we can flip Roberts or Posey to Sask for Roosevelt before he bails on them in FA anyways ;) ?

  16. 29 minutes ago, Atomic said:

    I think MOS takes a lot of unnecessary criticism for this.... yes, we were subjected to too much Romby Bryant, Ejiro Kuale, Greg Peach.... but the difference between now and then is that we actually have good players on the bench waiting to play, whereas that may not have been the case before.  It may not be O'Shea who has changed as much as the players available to him have changed.

     

    10 minutes ago, Blueandgold said:

    Those were still awful choices. The difference is, O'Shea has grown as a coach and is no longer loyal to a fault. He's actually willing to make the decision to put sub par players on the bench.

    It probably a little from column A and B. Kuale especially kept taking stupid penalties and harming the team in a very obvious way but still got to see the field. Peach was replacement level but played and Bryant was a flyer as our WR depth was a dumpster fire. No doubt his talent to make his lineup from is infinitely better than 2 years ago, there were still instances that he seemed to favor the vet over an unproven.

    Fast forward to now and he is making guys earn back their spots and rightfully so. Part of that is him growing as a coach and the other part is just his overall faith in the depth on the roster that he can stick his neck out and bench a player. And we're talking about a guy who's a year removed from being a West all-star and not an also ran like Kuale.

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