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I’m in Buffalo enough to confirm it is a dump. 

Downtown Winnipeg has problems but it is no dumpier than Edmonton or Hamilton, Regina, etc… 
 
Philadelphia has parts of it that are so beyond dump you would be surprised human beings live there  
 
Winnipeg is a great place to live and not a great place to visit really. 
 
Vancouver is awesome. I also saw people doing needle drugs in an alley with no care in the world and drug addicts wandering around all over. 

I’m in Buffalo enough to confirm it is a dump. 

Downtown Winnipeg has problems but it is no dumpier than Edmonton or Hamilton, Regina, etc… 
 
Philadelphia has parts of it that are so beyond dump you would be surprised human beings live there  
 
Winnipeg is a great place to live and not a great place to visit really. 
 
Vancouver is awesome. I also saw people doing needle drugs in an alley with no care in the world and drug addicts wandering around all over. 

There are lots of things about Winnipeg taken for granted by the people that live here.
Big one for me... our tree canopy is uncommon for a city our size, and is usually overlooked and underappreciated... not just for the natural beauty it lends our city but actual economical and environmental benefits (passive cooling, prevention of heat island effects, habitat for wildlife and pollinators). You can barely walk outside for 2 minutes on a hot day in Arizona, scurrying from A/C to A/C, what a great place to live 🙄. In my travels I'm often left wondering 'where did all your trees go?'. Looks like some cities were bombed by Agent Orange, barely a stick of vegetation anywhere to be found. Hot as hell and unbearable. I couldn't live in a place where the only trees are at a park you have to drive to to visit.
Anecdotal... crime is real here, I've been a victim of property theft multiple times (in a nice part of sunny St James no less)... BUT, I worked at Portage and Main for years, my late shifts ended at 10pm, caught my bus back to St James 100% of the time without issue. Likewise catching the 16 or 18 by The Bay, you keep your head on a swivel and don't flash your valuables but again 100% zero issues, ever. Yes I'm male but I'm not big or intimidating, if anyone got the idea to mug me I wasn't about to scare them off or take them physically, yet I never had a problem with anyone, ever, and there was plenty of opportunity. All that said, the criticism that downtown is a ghost town after work lets out is valid... unless you go straight to a restaurant or bar after work there is nothing else to do.
Concerts, festivals, comedy shows... Winnipeg is no longer a flyover city when it comes to entertainment... in fact, we've only been getting better and better for decades. WAG and RWB are world class (and yet, I bet less than 1/3 of Winnipeggers have visited either, let alone both). Nowadays, I have to pick and choose which awesome concerts and live shows I'm going to attend because I couldn't possibly attend them all, and I always have tickets to look forward to.
So much to see and do here, if you just go out and do it.

I've split out the discussion on Winnipeg and urban decay to this topic

Again , people seem to forget that would have tied the game. That and I still think the pass would have been broken up. 
Plus, had Sayles just knocked the ball down like he should have it was drive over a few plays earlier. 
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Right. So don’t pretend they don’t exist. 
 
Some are worse than others. I’m in TO a lot and their downtown is really not the same vibe as ours or Edmonton’s. 
 
Just facts. 😂
This is bullshit. Winnipeg is a great place to live. 
 

From my experience, the people who complain about Winnipeg as if it's some unique Unicorn when it comes to crime and decaying infrastructure etc etc, have also not lived for any amount of real time somewhere else that is comparable. Or visited for short periods of time.

It isn’t. Downtown Winnipeg has major problems that need to be fixed. 
 
It has gotten worse since the pandemic started. 
 
Asking a bunch of millionaires who spend a lot of time in the biggest cities in North America which downtown they like least is a stupid bench mark though. 
 
It is cold, dark, and empty basically any time they’re here. 

It isn’t. Downtown Winnipeg has major problems that need to be fixed. 
 
It has gotten worse since the pandemic started. 
 
Asking a bunch of millionaires who spend a lot of time in the biggest cities in North America which downtown they like least is a stupid bench mark though. 
 
It is cold, dark, and empty basically any time they’re here. 

You're from TO and are blinded on anything not Toronto. I had a friend visit for the first time ever in late October, stayed at the Alt across from the arena, walked to the Forks and Human Rights Museum. He couldn't stop glowing about what a great experience he had (Friday to Saturday). I will take the impression of someone that lives in Europe, has lived in LA and travels all across NA every year over anything you have to offer about our city.
PS. I was in Toronto Dec 14th to 15th and spent Thursday evening downtown, thoroughly enjoyed the experience, including the Christmas market. Not quite Vancouver in December but a great experience.

It isn’t. Downtown Winnipeg has major problems that need to be fixed. 
 
It has gotten worse since the pandemic started. 
 
Asking a bunch of millionaires who spend a lot of time in the biggest cities in North America which downtown they like least is a stupid bench mark though. 
 
It is cold, dark, and empty basically any time they’re here. 

As if their spoiled opinions were any kind of reflection of reality. 

I know who Rod Hill is. 
 
 

I mean going out and getting **** faced the night before a Grey Cup game where we had a guy making his first start ever at QB was frustrating. 

Milt Stegall was pretty good. 
 
Both came in 1995. 

I know who Rod Hill is. 
 
 

If Dee Alford stayed up here he would be in the prime of maybe the best DB career in league history. 

I had dinner with Milt a few years (a friend won a charity auction) and he said he roomed with Blink for their first trip to Montreal together.
He said he didnt see Charlie from the time they checked in until they were at the stadium the next day. 
Blink went on to lead the team in rushing and receiving that night so Milt said he decided not to confront the issue and just let Blink be Blink.
The question is would the Bombers had won more cups in the early 2000s if they had team leaders that inforced the FIFO attitude? Was Blink the problem or lack of leaders the problem?

For sure it was. Especially considering he did it twice.  Doesn’t change the respect I have for his natural talent though. 

There are an endless amount of guys who can do what he does. 
 
He doesn’t bring anything special.

I mean going out and getting **** faced the night before a Grey Cup game where we had a guy making his first start ever at QB was frustrating. 

I know who Rod Hill is. 
 
 

If Dee Alford stayed up here he would be in the prime of maybe the best DB career in league history. 

Right. Part of the last great crop anyhow. 
I think Sellers came up the first time in 1995 as well. 

I know who Rod Hill is.