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Yep. Our wins have been heavily skewed by the fact that we had a ridiculous talent edge over the rest of the league. Look at how our DL dominated; we ran every alignment imaginable, with every single combination of players. Everything we did after we started, Zach worked. With every sub and roster change. That team is among the most overpowered in league history. The fact that much of the core is still competitive speaks volumes to that. Mos has done a lot of great things here; we could've won with almost any HC. Not any coach could've turned us into that squad, not any coach could've come back from last year's start. But a bunch of coaches would have more GC rings in his place here. Your claim is that absurd. We see outstanding rookies at every single position in the CFL now. Even QBs here n there. For real though, who did Kornelson out play and how? The backup QB is the most popular guy amongst the fans. The thing is, we have several below-replacement-level guys like Kola and Jake. Would you like to go do a head-to-head comparison of forced into action PR back-ups vs those guys in film? Can show real clearly that some guys we play are average PR or below guys. Funny thing is the same thing happened last year in PS too. On top of that, our brutal useage of biggie, feeding him to OL to prevent double teams, caused his precipitous downfall and injuries. We battered the poor guy into a career grave. We were not first in pressures last year, which aren't openly tracked or released on a reliable in-season basis. Classic distraction technique. Teams often track it themselves and quantify it. He tried to say at one point last year that Jake had the most pressure in the league. The gap is actually widening in terms of pressures as well, between us and the rest of the league. Teams like Sask, To, and a couple of others are running much more aggressive fronts, doing basically the opposite of what we did last year. The riders have had an absurd amount of pressure on opposing qbs this year. More real pressures than we had all last year. Very few.

It's very telling that Mike Oshea never actually retired from playing. He would not ever quit and he's not going to tell one of his guys to quit.

I don't think receivers are really the problem on this team. Qb and OL are where I see problems.

Osh didn't move on from those guys because he felt there were better players available. The injuries forced him to. If Biggie could play at 45 years of age & run a 6.5 forty & have a vertical jump of 9 inches then he'd start.

Ok how many pressures are the DL generating this year? Cause it is usually a linebacker getting pressure. First in those categories last year is one thing but what about this year?

O'shea highlights on the CJOB sports hit this morning when asked about the D line... Don't look at sacks, look at the pressure. Last year we were 1st in a lot of those categories, that's what we are aiming for. Sacks don't tell the full story. Pretty much exactly what I would expect he would say. 7th in sacks, D line after 4 games looks like it's week 17 but hey let's go!!

Biggie playing even though he was injured. Schoen and Bailey playing even though injured cost us a Grey Cup in 23.

Schoen (bad knee still favouring), Wheatfall (great potential still learning. Can't be depended upon yet to make the great contested downfield catches), Demski (great old pro who get by with guile & experience. Isn't the same guy he was even 2 yrs ago) & Clercius (may be a diamond). I rate them 9th. Didn't have to be that way, either.

But look at what happened in preseason game 2... the starters on D got outperformed badly by the 2s... not a coincidence in my mind. The defensive line is a problem and has been for a couple years. Would really like to know how people feel they really are putting the best people out there...

None of you went to camp or if you did it was for an hour on 1 day so to be making statements like this guy was better in camp Is just pure bullshit. Nobody went to camp.

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Jake and T.Jones didnt out perform anyone....Kolo either...Punter guys didnt..... J.Jones...Allen....Woodbey...Ayers did tho.....Adams as well but still takes a back seat.\ I doidnt see Korn outplay anyone.....Bridges either...Sterns wasn't the 5th best receiver in camp.....and you certainly can go with a rookie in a tie or if debatable...especially if younger and shows upside and the older player is what he is How do you think T.Jones got here...by all accounts...his included he had a great camp in Edm...and was shocked...as were others he was outright cut....for a young rookie.....that's coaching 101 also....that rookie ended up as R.O.Y too....I wish Edm would have cut him instead with the Osh theory and we had Anderson here....Anderson...Ayers...J.Jones...Wilson....gimme some of that no....yeah but.....lol

So you've never seen oshea make a mistake in roster construction?

Go sign Surtain and see if he is not a starter day one. C'mon man....you are reaching on that one. TC a player has to beat the player ahead of him. It doesn't go to the rookie in a tie or if there is even some debate. That's coaching 101 stuff. I like that J. Jones has the potential to replace T. Jones. When he demonstrates that to Osh and Younger I will be happy to see him succeed here. You say he is better now, but our coaches disagree. We don't have guys riding the pine because they are the better option NOW unless ratio comes into play. No coach in the world leaves a guy on the bench that is clearly better than the guy ahead of him with all things being equal. What we call roster mismanagement is valid in some respects, but not all. Some of it is based on the age old fan belief that the 2nd stringer is better than the 1st stringer WAAAAAAAY more often than is the actual case.

We had a really strong roster and won a lot of games as a result, and can still win... but they're getting older and games like last week will be more and more common.

that's the sad part...we kept the aged...declining...in a few instances washed up players...guys who have been part of 3 flops in a row....and let the young, upside guys walk away.....now make that make sense? resting on laurels

100%. Back to guys like Hurl and Kuale. We hoped then that it was just because we had a bad team, which we did. But his roster management hasn't gotten better since then. In fact, as a coach, he's not improved an only gotten worse. Gone are his brilliant trick plays, especially on teams, challenges that were good or served to back up a player/expose a bad decision, gone is even min-maxing the ratio. I've never seen a more complacent coach in all of sports. There is a good chance we don't even make an AR change going into the next game after the bye week.

2025-07-07 CGY WILCOTS II, Cedric DL A New Mexico State DEL Active Roster https://3downnation.com/2025/07/07/calgary-stampeders-release-veteran-dl-cedric-wilcots-ii/ Here's a guy we can pick up. 1 sack in 17 career CFL games.

We can go back and long way and see roster management problems fro. Osh. Love the guy as a coach but he has flaws in this regard and has for a long time. The problem now is there's a lot of fading stars that get all kinds of rope when they really need to be spelled off more.

Teams with better DL than ours are using our former players, while our "superior" guys get whupped. If we made a DL of former bombers on CFL ARs, it would be handily better than our own.

Osh makes change only due to season ending injury, or player defection....Name one player cut out right by Osh that has been here more than 2 yrs that was a starter....or even bumped to a back-up or PR role He wont make a change to use a better player....or a mid-season change let alone a mid-game switch....why who knows

It is the coach's fault if you are suffering at a position, like say DE, after cutting a bunch of guys who are now elsewhere in the league. Kinda like the situation we see right now. Cedric Willcotts is even back on the AR in Calgary.

it is when the coach keeps the lesser talent...and that happens here...too much Or who nakes the roster in a Championship game littered with injured guys, and not roster the "they are all starter" guys?....the water boy??..No ...the HC....He signs off on all of it and is the man responsible....Hence the Title "Head Coach"

So we sign Patrick Surtain, reigning NFL MODP. He isn't an upgrade over Bridges until he proves it, even if Bridges is proven to be below replacement level? If that were remotely true, free agency wouldn't be what it is, and defenders wouldn't get paid to go to other teams. That might be the earliest point you are able to recognize an on-field value differential, but that isn't a blanket that covers everyone's eyes. To that point, TC and PS would be completely worthless. That doesn't prove that he is willing to make the changes, it proves he is only willing to do it at the last possible minute after it's cost us repeatedly.

if players underachieve in what they are doing....or pull it off in glorious fashion....It's all related to the coaching and preparedness leading up to the game....and that on coaches...good or bad....some plays will be made by exceptional play even in a bad play call or scheme but generally thats done by going rouge per say and superceding the scheme.....but going rogue over and over gets you parked on a bench...or at the bus stop/airport and thats my point exactly....if guys are not put in place...or in system to succeed...it will look like an under acheiver....it's coaching.....just as it is when we play lights out. Player 's will even say...well not the self absorbed ones but the team players will say they were pout in a position to be successful....thats scheme/gameplan/personelle