The Unknown Poster Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Enstrom must be protected as he has a no movement clause. If trouba returns they have to protect four D unless they can make a deal to leave Trouba Myers or Buff unprotected and not chosen. We will lose s good player no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Tobi can waive his NMC....Buff has one too. Leave player x unprotected and they don't take Enstrom or give them a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 if we go 1-8 we will lose a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Not sure LV would want the lil general on their D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 all the more reason for them not to take him if he is left unprotected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Ducky said: Tobi can waive his NMC....Buff has one too. Leave player x unprotected and they don't take Enstrom or give them a draft pick. Why would enstrom do that? Unless he has a desire to go play in Las Vegas. Unlikely to do it. There are ways to get around it but most likely Jets would protect 4 d and lose a solid forward. Lowry or Armia. Rich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 You must not have read what I said... "Make a deal with Vegas not to pick Enstrom and do the 1-3-7. Helle-Buff Myers Trouba? Scheifele Wheeler Little MP Armia Lowry Copp/Dano....maybe we make a deal to leave a player open like Dano/Copp?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 48 minutes ago, Ducky said: You must not have read what I said... "Make a deal with Vegas not to pick Enstrom and do the 1-3-7. Helle-Buff Myers Trouba? Scheifele Wheeler Little MP Armia Lowry Copp/Dano....maybe we make a deal to leave a player open like Dano/Copp?" Enstrom cannot be exposed. He just be protected. So you're suggesting the jets ask Enstrom to waive his no movement clause so they can expose him but not to worry because they make a deal with Vegas not to choose him? Seems unlikely to me. More likely they would just ask Enstron to waive and he'd say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 we won't be the only ones to be making a deal with Las Vegas like this. You talk to Las Vegas first and that you make the deal and you tell him that the deal is made so he waves his no movement cause for the draft. As far as I'm concerned this is the smartest thing to do because it messes protect 7 for words and not for. If we protect for four words we will lose a very good player. If we protect 7 four words we lose the third fourth line tweener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 I am voice to text app on my phone and it doesn't always type what I say but I think you can get the gist of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Depends on if Vegas wants a player for now or picks to build for the future. Otherwise why would they make a deal so they can pick a worse player from us. If I was Vegas I might just say no deal and force the Jets to expose a player like Armia. Floyd and The Unknown Poster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 a chance of maybe getting Armia or for sure getting Dano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Ducky said: a chance of maybe getting Armia or for sure getting Dano? Just saying there is many variables and discussions in this, it really isn't as straight forward of suggesting 'make a deal' for them not to take a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Trade trouba for an expansion exempt D 1 3 7 Helle. Buff Toby Myers plus 7 forwards Scheif Wheeler Perreault Little Armia Lowry Dano Ehlers Connor Laine Morrissey exempt Tanev too for that matter. It's possible Vegas could take Stu or Mathias tho. Edited October 29, 2016 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Are we sure that Stuart does not have to be protected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, Floyd said: Are we sure that Stuart does not have to be protected? Pretty sure. We must protect the Chiarot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Pretty good tool here to do mock expansion drafts and protects for each team. Linked to the Jets page, shows who is exempt and who has NMC. Stuart doesn't need to be protected. http://planmyteam.com/NHL/ProtectPlayers?teamid=30 Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 If trouba signs or is traded for a defenseman that needs to be protected they will have to do something and only protect 3 defense and 7 for words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, Ducky said: If trouba signs or is traded for a defenseman that needs to be protected they will have to do something and only protect 3 defense and 7 for words. Odds are they protect 4 D and then only 4 forwards. Leaves Dano or Lowry as likely picks by Vegas. Then again maybe they'd snag Burmi . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 So if Trouba sits out the season, do you need to protect him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 51 minutes ago, Floyd said: So if Trouba sits out the season, do you need to protect him? If you want to keep him. He would still be eligible to be selected by Vegas. So jets would protect him. Didnt the NHL just make a rule allowing Vegas to target free agents prior to the rest of the league? Not sure if that impacts trouba at all, I didn't listen too closely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Yeah Trouba is interesting in that hes unsigned RFA. Need to question Wiebe on this. Unless someone knows. Vegas gonna have the best team of 3rd line wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Yeah Trouba is interesting in that hes unsigned RFA. Need to question Wiebe on this. Unless someone knows. Vegas gonna have the best team of 3rd line wingers. Trouba is definitely eligible even if unsigned. Jets have to protect him or Vegas can select him in the expansion draft and then he'd be their unsigned RFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 25 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Trouba is definitely eligible even if unsigned. Jets have to protect him or Vegas can select him in the expansion draft and then he'd be their unsigned RFA Jets can then either match the offer or take the picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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