sweep the leg Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Was at the game last night. I thought the Scheifele line was good, especially Perreault. Thought he was our best forward most of the night. A handful of fans were trying to get a "no means no" chant going, but it never really amounted to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Probably what you would have said had I suggested the players in the Kane trade... Don't forget, Babcock LOVES Toby. So if the best coach in the world loves Toby, how come you wanna trade him? Quennville loves him too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 tch tch tch I showed you the post and you still argue? Also, I have a site with the Jets salaries bookmarked and you can change it from salary to cap hit so I know what they make and what the hit is. Cap hit is more important than actual salary. Salary is more important than cap hit for a budget team. Cap hit really only matters when you are close to the cap which the Jets most certainly are not. We might be in the next year or two though with Buff, Ladd, Trouba, & Scheifele all due for raises. If so Myers' contract is even more important because it means they have a top D pairing for less than market value cash-wise and can use an extra $2 million and allocate that to someone like Ladd or Buff. I'd suspect part of the delay with Ladd is Chevy's planning out the budget for the next few years. Chipman has said they have forcasts and it comes down to where they slot a guy salary-wise and they have projections years into the future on that. So Myers being on a decent contract even if his cap hit and salary were the same with the added bonus of providing a few re-capture bucks for someone else, makes things easier. I think if they re-sign Buff it will mean they try and get Trouba on a bridge deal of 2-3 years before locking him in. He's not having a top D year so far so it might be difficult for both sides to agree on an 8 year contract. Bridge deal, see if he turns into the player we think he can and then max him out on his next contract. That buys some time for Buff too. Lowry shouldnt be difficult to resign. If Scheif continues to make noise as a 1B center, his contract will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Id rather have Reilly and Gardiner and picks/prospects than Myers/Enstrom. Myers=5.5m for this year and next 3....then UFA. Enstrom=5.75m for this year and the next to and then an UFA. Reilly=ELC this year and an RFA next year. Gardiner=4.5m for this year and next 3 then an UFA. Whose contract is cap friendly??????????? Myers is. Do some research. I get it, my apologies....what you said is not what you meant....gotcha. Its absolutely what I mean. All salaries must fit under the cap. Myers' contract is the best under the cap. You're trying to score points on semantics because you didnt realise his contract paid him less cash than his yearly average cap hit. Its okay to be wrong. And you knew I was arguing his contract was good and you argued it wasnt. You were wrong. But you argue with me rather than the person who called you a troll because you're trying to be difficult and deliberately obtuse. You were wrong on Myers' contract You were wrong on Myers' value to the Jets You are wrong on which D should be traded if one has to be. Sorry you're so wrong. It happens sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Don't make me lock this topic because you guys are going to have a pissing match about right and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Go ahead and lock it Rich. As tiresome and stupid as this inane argument is, Im not going to relent to someone forcing a silly argument on me. I've made my point. I consider the matter closed. And if Ducky wants to keep debating a silly idea like trading Myers there are other threads to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 tch tch tch I showed you the post and you still argue? Also, I have a site with the Jets salaries bookmarked and you can change it from salary to cap hit so I know what they make and what the hit is. Cap hit is more important than actual salary. Salary is more important than cap hit for a budget team. Cap hit really only matters when you are close to the cap which the Jets most certainly are not. That's a pretty near sighted view isn't it....just because we aren't near the cap this year doesn't mean we won't be in the future and possibly the very near future. TUP, I am done with this debate....I have showed you in your own words where you were wrong and you decline to admit it so say what you want, I am done with this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 No you didnt Ducky. You cant say I was wrong based on you telling me what I said and what I meant. You're just sour because everyone pointed out the ludicrousness" of your "Trade Myers" stance and the fact you were arguing a moot point. Now that you've been shown how his contract actually is, do you still want to trade him? And if you're also trying to argue that we might be near the cap in a couple of years so we should trade Myers, you're even more wrong. If the Jets were against the cap, Myers would be one of the last guys considered for trade. Why trade a $5M cap/$3M cash instead of someone who is $5/$5? if you did, you'd be freeing up cap but not freeing up cash. Besides which, the idea of trading Myers is silly without considering his contract. Its moot. MOOOT I say. (or mute as Lawless says. ha) blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Read the posts, I said IF a RHD is to be traded, it should be Myers....Rich lock this thread PLEASE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Read the posts, I said IF a RHD is to be traded, it should be Myers....Rich lock this thread PLEASE. Which is silly and many have pointed out. And yes, Im curious how long you can keep up this inane silliness before Rich puts us all out of our misery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I've changed my mind. I'm not going to lock the thread. I will let both of you keep going in circles and show everyone on this site how immature BOTH of you are being just to get the last word in. You are both being utterly ridiculous. Noeller, Goalie, The Unknown Poster and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 As a non-partisan outsider, I'll just chime in how incredibly annoying it is to have to skim through these pissing match threads. bigg jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 As a non-partisan outsider, I'll just chime in how incredibly annoying it is to have to skim through these pissing match threads. I agree. Par for the course unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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