Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

 

Situation is going from bad to worse in Tampa and Drouin isn't doing himself any favours.

 

 

Drouin and/or his agents ego is ridiculous... Trade the bum to Buffalo and let him rot.

That's very bad advice from a character perspectice.  From a practical perspective it makes sense but I'm not sure the damage done to his reputation isn't way more than any minor risk of injury. 

it would be fitting if that "imminent trade" was called off due to this....

If he plays like some people say he can, that "damage" will be forgotten.

I imagine the Lightening will just want to get something for him. But they should let him sit out his contract. Of which he's an RFA so if he ever wants to play hockey in North America again he needs to make amends to the team. 

ive seem it mentioned that Walsh is a lawyer and he's advising his client to not honor a contract. That's just shady. 

All of this risks driving his value down. Why should the team accept less because the player has a **** of an agent?  They should publicly announce that they will not consider a trade this season and will reconsider in the summer. 

I say he is traded by Feb. 15th.

       

 

This year, the Lightning sent Drouin to the AHL after 38 games on the roster, which would prevent him from accruing another season of service at the NHL level (40 games). That would keep him under control as a restricted free agent until 2022, not 2021 should he be on the roster for another two games.

2nd or 3rd for Drouin?

Thoughts on BBurke wanting to expand the surface? This is something the NFL should do not so much NHL imho.

Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said:

2nd or 3rd for Drouin?

Thoughts on BBurke wanting to expand the surface? This is something the NFL should do not so much NHL imho.

Old argument.  Definitely not a new suggestion and a non-starter since its much too difficult to retrofit many existing arenas to accommodate.  Its just a nice way of avoiding actually doing anything constructive to improve scoring.  But it's hilarious when people acknowledge the increased size of players as a reason to increase the ice and yet dont want to change the size of the nets. 

Change the size of the nets.  Scoring increases.  Easy peasy.

16 hours ago, Rich said:

 

Situation is going from bad to worse in Tampa and Drouin isn't doing himself any favours.

Drouin has really now poked the bear hard (i.e., Yzerman) and has upped the ante. One of the key key points for me (and Craig Button made the same point) is that Yzerman will send a message to all of his players in his organization that this is how we operate if you decide to take this same route with us. This is going to be fun to watch.

2nd or 3rd for Drouin? You mean 2nd or 3rd round draft pick?

If you think that is all TB gets for Drouin, think again.

 

No kidding.  its up to Drouin he wants to hire as his agent but Walsh just seems to have mis handled this one completely.  And the idea of sitting to avoid injury when a deal is "imminent" doesnt hold water since 1) The Bolts claim they never said a deal was close 2) if Drouin was willing to play for the big club, then what's the difference.

The flip side is the people that argue its enslaving people and players should not be drafted but should choose their team. 

Edited January 21, 201610 yr by The Unknown Poster

Walsh is to blame?

Who does he work for?

Oh ya, Drouin...

3 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Walsh is to blame?

Who does he work for?

Oh ya, Drouin...

20 year old kid?  He's taking advice of his agent.  If he's not, he shouldnt pay the big bucks to him.

He is given advice.

He chooses what to do with that advice.

I have nothing wrong with him forcing his hand. Takes some leverage away from Yzerman but it is what it is. Hard to believe he can't make the team though. This guy put up better numbers than Ehlers in the Q .

Let him sit for as long as you can.

4 minutes ago, Ducky said:

He is given advice.

He chooses what to do with that advice.

I have nothing wrong with him forcing his hand. Takes some leverage away from Yzerman but it is what it is. Hard to believe he can't make the team though. This guy put up better numbers than Ehlers in the Q .

How does it take leverage away from Yzerman?  It puts all the balls is Y's court.  Drouin has zero leverage.  He quit on the team.  He lowers offers because other teams know the relationship is fractured.  He likely decreases the interested teams because of perceived character issues he has.  And he's antagonized the Lightening enough that they have zero reason to dress him for the two more games he needs to blow a year off his free agency.

This was a terrible strategy by Drouin and Walsh.  Compare it to Hamonic when his trade request was leaked.  He addressed his team mates, had a presser and agreed to do everything possible to help the process including showing up every game and playing his best and accepting that the islanders would do what was best for them.

Drouin might yet be traded and it might work out for him.  But he has hurt himself with this strategy. He had 6 goals in, what, 70+ games?  He's talented but he hasnt earned anything.

40 points in 89 NHL games....not bad....

I meant it took leverage away from Yzerman when dealing with other teams to trade him to. ..Drouin has no leverage which is why he is forcing a trade....what else can he do, TB owns his rights for years...he doesn't care what TB gets back.

http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-sekac-from-ducks-1.426482

 

The Hawks trade a 30 year old for a 23 year old.

2 hours ago, Ducky said:

http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-sekac-from-ducks-1.426482

 

The Hawks trade a 30 year old for a 23 year old.

That team can do no wrong it seems.

Yzerman is as stubborn as they get, Drouin and Walsh picked a fight that they can't win, the kid doesn't own the team,doesn't run the team he is a young player who thinks that he has the right to play in the NHL and quickly found out this is the the case. There is a right way to ask for a trade and a wrong way, he and his agent have gone about it the wrong way.

Some of Walsh's clients....

Buff, Fleury, Tarasenko, Landeskog, Krejci, MacDonagh, Hedman, RNH and many more.

He's no rookie...

 

 

Is this part of Chevy's master plan to get the 14th overall pick?