Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

Chevy seems scared at picking up waiver guys now. 2 goals. That's 3rd line material for us.

Yeah, not a normal type of want for the Jets but just feeling that with Scheif hurt, they might want a bit more depth.  But I guess they are happy with Lowry and Armia and Hali from the Moose.  And so far so good.  Unless you want to score Austin Matthews.  Then it's bad.

Easy pass on both players, ones past his best years yeats the other never made it there

    Finland retires Teemu Selanne's No. 8 jersey from international competition dlvr.it/D86FWt

29 other teams and some  with bigger problems than the Jets never picked up these guys either. What that does tell you really... Tells me, they aren't good enough.

 

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/132625/winnipeg-jets-struggling-farm-still-loaded-top-notch-prospects/

 

 

Jaromir Jagr gets his 12th and 13th goals tonight as Florida beats Minny 2-1.

26 points and he's about to turn 44 in month.

2 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Jaromir Jagr gets his 12th and 13th goals tonight as Florida beats Minny 2-1.

26 points and he's about to turn 44 in month.

Probably has a direct line to Peyton Manning's wife...

On 25/12/2015 at 11:54 AM, Goalie said:

Probably but I'm not sure that the jets would have interest in him. He's a center. Him and Scheif are similar... Scheif better defensively tho. I'm not sure that I see the need for another center tho. He doesn't play the wing.  I think Eberle or yakupov tho would be 2 guys of interest to the jets. Maybe Eberle more so since he's a somewhat proven goal scorer. And b4 people chime in with the you wouldn't get Eberle or Yakupov plus a first for Buff.... I'll bet you would. .... RNH eh. I guess maybe if it's Buff Burmi going to Edmonton. That might get you RNH and the 1st. Trust me... Buff will get more than ppl think he will. A first is a given.... no doubt about a first..... I'm thinking if they want buff enough.... Eberle yak or RNH plus that 1st would get it done. 

First of all, rentals generally get a first plus a prospect and maybe a crappy roster player if they're good enough... but if you're dealing with Edmonton you're not getting the usual late first round pick so the value there is automatically higher. Hell their chances of making playoffs are slim so that first round pick is a lottery ticket that could land a first overall (and given their luck at winning the lottery who is to say what happens) So the idea that you could get a first plus any of RNH, Eberle or Yakupov with Buff being the main piece is just pie in the sky dreaming. Any one of those players could be moved, but it won't be for a guy on an expiring contract. Maybe Yakupov but then again Yakupov showed some pretty damned good chemistry with McDavid. His problem has been that when he doesn't have an offensive minded centre he doesn't produce and given Eberle is ahead on the depth chart and Purcell is more experienced and therefore more trusted it leaves Yakupov either playing his off wing which he hasn't been good at, or in a bottom 6 role that he is ill suited to. Now however things could look different as they have 3 offensive centres so Yakupov wouldn't have to waste his time playing with Lander or Letestu. Eberle would be available for the right package, but considering he's the best pure goal scorer on the oilers and is heating up after a slow start returning from injury and has a cost controlled contract for a lot of years I doubt they're in a hurry to move him for anything less than an over pay. Same deal for RNH. Guy has been playing 1C for years and doing fine at it, he's cost controlled and still has plenty of potential. You want him offer up a young top pairing D. Mclellan loves him and consider that Nashville asked about his availability and was told that one of Weber, Josi or Jones had to go back to get talks started. 

 

So if Edmonton is getting Buff it's for at most a first round pick plus crappy players or prospects. You want the actual good players from Edmonton the cost to get them is prohibitive. 

If Edmonton was willing to trade a "lottery" pick for Buff, I'd be pretty interested.  If the Jets went into the draft with two chances at first overall and no worse than two top level picks, I'd be happy.

you realize you have a way better chance of not getting the 1st overall than getting it with those two picks right?

Just now, Ducky said:

you realize you have a way better chance of not getting the 1st overall than getting it with those two picks right?

Yes but you have a far better chance of getting it with two picks then with one.  Or so I'd guess.  I dropped out of Statistics. 

Is the draft still weighted?  In other words, if the Jets finish in last place, they have the best shot at first over-all? 

8 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Yes but you have a far better chance of getting it with two picks then with one.  Or so I'd guess.  I dropped out of Statistics. 

Is the draft still weighted?  In other words, if the Jets finish in last place, they have the best shot at first over-all? 

It is more complicated now because they randomly draw for the first 3 picks.  Everyone's chances of getting the 1st overall hasn't changed from last year (20% chance for last place), but now the draw for the 2nd and 3rd overall picks as well so that changes things.  

Your odds on the 2nd and 3rd overall pick are dependant on who got the 1st overall pick (they factor in who got it and take them out of the equation).

So the biggest change is if you are last in points, you can now drop to 4th overall if you are unlucky.  Where as before the most you could drop is 2nd overall.  

But your chances at the first overall hasn't changed at all.  If you had the picks of both the 2nd and 3rd last teams, your combined chance for the first overall would be 25% vs 20% for last overall. 

So if you had two lottery picks, you'd have a greater shot at at least one top three pick.

Are the rest weighted?  For example, does the team finishing 6th last have a better shot at #1 than the team finishing 11th last?

These are the weightings:

1    20.0%    
2    13.5%    
3    11.5%    
4    9.5%    
5    8.5%    
6    7.5%   
7    6.5%   
8    6.0%   
9    5.0%   
10    3.5%    
11    3.0%   
12    2.5%    
13    2.0%    
14    1.0%

 

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Edited January 5, 201610 yr by Ducky

Fan voting for Stuart failed

Don't even start me on him

Philly trades LeCavalier and L Scheen to LA for Jordan Weal (prospect) and a 3rd round pick. 

On 1/4/2016 at 5:45 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Fan voting for Stuart failed

You know what, It wasn't even Stuart that lots of Jets fans were trying to get in. It was Thorburn. It's true. A bunch of People tried to get Thorburn to the all star game. It Failed cuz it was a joke. 

Mike Richards back in the NHL pending NHL's approval. Signs with the Caps. 

Ok Chevy. Your turn. Seth Jones to cbj for RyJo 

Things picking up already. Contenders are setting their tables. Chevy's phone is probably ringing off the hook from teams wanting ladd and buff 

that feels like a big steal by Columbus. Seth Jones is a beast...Johansen.....not sold.

RyJo is a 1C...don't get those every day....a trade that helps both teams.