heres 2 trailers. havent watched em yet so Ill watch em with you. 

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1502712?ref_=hm_hp_i_2

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610?ref_=hm_hp_i_1

 

F4 traIler: 

 

Jurrasic World trailer: 

Oh and one more thing, regarding the TWO extra scenes post credits:

The first one, which was for fun was

Spoiler

Flash and Superman racing

and the second one which was the set up for future films involved

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The absolutely dreadful Lex Luthor (horribly miscast) meeting with Deathstroke about assembling their own team.  Amazing that they kept secret that Joe Manganiello scene secret (and explains the "concept video" that floated around awhile back)

 

Other, then a few minor details, I pretty much agree with everything TUP said.

 

I do hope they release an ultimate or directors cut.

From Latino Review:

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In first place with $94 million is Justice League ($2 million lower than initially estimated). While this would be considered a good opening by normal standards, Justice League is not your standard film. Simply put, this is the Avengers of the DCEU, and as such, you know Warner Bros. was looking at at least match (if not, exceed), Batman v Superman’s $166 million opening. Instead, we ended up with a figure that was a little more than half that number. Given that the film could have cost as much as $300 million, plus an extra $100 to $200 million in advertising, the film could very well need big numbers to break even. As such, the $96 million domestically isn’t a great harbinger of things to come. We’ll be keeping an eye on this one as things develop.

Another big mistake they made was the aged Batman.  Because what do they do now?  They have good things like Wonder Woman and I think Flash and Aquaman can work as well.  But the through-line of the extended universe is Batman and Superman.  Cavill is signed for only one more film.  Affleck is already wavering and seems to have trouble getting into shape (he looked a bit paunchy in JLA).

So do you just replace Affleck?  Do you go younger and if so, why did you go older in the first place?

Edited November 20, 20178 yr by The Unknown Poster

I may be in the minority since I have very little opportunity to get out and see movies in the theatres these days....  but could it be that people are tired of super hero movies and that market has been overly saturated the last 5 or so years?  

10 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

From Latino Review:

Another big mistake they made was the aged Batman.  Because what do they do now?  They have good things like Wonder Woman and I think Flash and Aquaman can work as well.  But the through-line of the extended universe is Batman and Superman.  Cavill is signed for only one more film.  Affleck is already wavering and seems to have trouble getting into shape (he looked a bit paunchy in JLA).

So do you just replace Affleck?  Do you go younger and if so, why did you go older in the first place?

Because Zach Snyder

Just now, Brandon said:

I may be in the minority since I have very little opportunity to get out and see movies in the theatres these days....  but could it be that people are tired of super hero movies and that market has been overly saturated the last 5 or so years?  

Thor 3 is killing it right now.  I think part of it is lack of enthusiasm for DC.  I think people are less likely to go into it blindly than for a Marvel film.   But ultimately, they have a chance to be successful by making good movies and they've stumbled so far.

1 minute ago, Brandon said:

I may be in the minority since I have very little opportunity to get out and see movies in the theatres these days....  but could it be that people are tired of super hero movies and that market has been overly saturated the last 5 or so years?  

I doubt it.  Marvel movies keep bringing in the dough.

2 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

Because Zach Snyder

Yeah...and I think no one wanted to do "Robin".  They like the idea of Batman having a Robin and all the psychological issues that come along with it.  And they like the idea of **** Grayson and the idea of his replacement being brutally murdered and Batman living with the guilt.  But actually doing the Robin story, I dont think anyone wanted to.  So they skipped it.

Edited November 20, 20178 yr by The Unknown Poster

Re: Burnout....here's a thought, take it for what it's worth (not much): 

As much as these comic book movies are made for the nerds who've been there for years, there's a chunk of the movie going public who're like me.....never read comics, totally new to the entire universe thing. Marvel got me first.....Iron Man was the first one outta the gate, and it was awesome, and I was hooked. So then I gotta watch every GD one that comes after it, so I stay in the loop. I've got a lot of time invested in this stupid GD MCU. I am absolutely not going to spend even more time with DC....it's more than enough effort to keep up with Marvel.

So, I'm wondering how many others are like me.....already invested in Marvel, 'cause they got us first, and not going to bother with DC. Maybe a part of it?

Also occams razor: DC movies suck, Marvel movies are really good.

Edited November 20, 20178 yr by Noeller

@Noeller I think thats why I am so adamant about DC's vision being wrong.  Why "catch up" to Marvel when you really cant?  There has already been talk of a potential superhero burnout so if anyone things thats a real possibility, DC should be wanting to start out simpler just as Marvel is beginning to wane a bit.  make it easy for all the fans Marvel created (and obviously they arent JUST comic fans since these movies have done killer business) to try DC.  they've created too large a mythology too fast.  I think thats why WW did well, among other things, it was a simpler story with a simpler character.

I really think as Marvel transitions away from some of their core characters and actors, DC could have been attracting people that miss the traditional heroes and the smaller stories.  Instead, DC has come on with fantasy and massive mythology and convoluted stories.  And now you might lose Batman & Superman after one more movie?  WTF.  Why werent they locked up to ten picture options?  DC just had no plan. Even when they say they have a plan, they dont have a plan.

It's that time of year when the "real" movies come out.  Some may even call them films.  Can not wait to see this one (red band trailer makes it even more appetizing).  

 

^^ I'd heard about that, but wasn't sure what it was....Frances McDormand seems solid as always......looks good.

Same writer/director as Seven Psychopaths, which is one of my favorite movies of the last 10 years.

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

So, I'm wondering how many others are like me.....already invested in Marvel, 'cause they got us first, and not going to bother with DC. Maybe a part of it?

 

I was thinking the exact same thing,   I can't be bothered to learn and follow the back stories of dozens of random comic book characters.     

2 minutes ago, Brandon said:

I was thinking the exact same thing,   I can't be bothered to learn and follow the back stories of dozens of random comic book characters.     

I'm already embarrassed how invested I've become in this stupid MCU.........Christ. 

14 hours ago, Brandon said:

I was thinking the exact same thing,   I can't be bothered to learn and follow the back stories of dozens of random comic book characters.     

I"m kinda halfway. Never read "comics" but have watched all the "cartoons" of both. The DC cartoons don't suck anywhere near as bad as the movies, but I don't care about Cyborg. Why did they use him over GL?

For me, I was ready to get into the DC world as well as MCU, but the movies have just been bad. SS was terrible and about characters I didn't know, except Quinn. BVS was horrid and had no reason behind it. At least Civil War had a reason for Stark to fight Rogers.

Still haven't seen JL, but I will.

21 hours ago, Noeller said:

Re: Burnout....here's a thought, take it for what it's worth (not much): 

As much as these comic book movies are made for the nerds who've been there for years, there's a chunk of the movie going public who're like me.....never read comics, totally new to the entire universe thing. Marvel got me first.....Iron Man was the first one outta the gate, and it was awesome, and I was hooked. So then I gotta watch every GD one that comes after it, so I stay in the loop. I've got a lot of time invested in this stupid GD MCU. I am absolutely not going to spend even more time with DC....it's more than enough effort to keep up with Marvel.

So, I'm wondering how many others are like me.....already invested in Marvel, 'cause they got us first, and not going to bother with DC. Maybe a part of it?

Also occams razor: DC movies suck, Marvel movies are really good.

What is really comes down to is this: Iron Man was a good movie, Robert Downey Jr. charmed the pants off movie goers in the role and people wanted more.  Then they gave us some entertaining movies with Thor and Captain American, both well cast with likeable leads and people wanted more. 

No one liked Man of Steel nor did they feel strongly about the lead. Batman vs. Superman was an even bigger mess, people just don't care about that franchise, and why are they going to get excited about a team up movie when the only previously introduced character that anyone seemed to like was Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman? They see dollar signs but have no idea how to actually get there. 

They sort of stumbled across Wonder Woman as a success I think.  Its a shame they put their eggs in the Justice League basket because WW could have been the real lens through which we get to know everyone and slowly build to the team up film. 

A Legion of Doom films has a better chance to be successful because it could be more grounded.  But then you need Joker and I wasnt buying Leto's portrayal.

On 11/20/2017 at 10:08 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

Oh and one more thing, regarding the TWO extra scenes post credits:

The first one, which was for fun was

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Flash and Superman racing

and the second one which was the set up for future films involved

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The absolutely dreadful Lex Luthor (horribly miscast) meeting with Deathstroke about assembling their own team.  Amazing that they kept secret that Joe Manganiello scene secret (and explains the "concept video" that floated around awhile back)

 

I thought DC was adamant that they were not going to do the post movie cut scenes..

Just now, SPuDS said:

I thought DC was adamant that they were not going to do the post movie cut scenes..

The way I read it, the final post credit scene (the one that directly impacts future films) was from Snyder.  The mid-credit scene which is more fun and has no bearing on future films, was added by Whedon.  

I read a list today of which scenes belonged to which guy.  And man, without Whedon, this film likely would have been a snoozefest.  Virtually all the character and heart seems to have come from Josh. 

And here's something I just thought about, if Nightwing exists in this Universe, where the heck was he?

36 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

The way I read it, the final post credit scene (the one that directly impacts future films) was from Snyder.  The mid-credit scene which is more fun and has no bearing on future films, was added by Whedon.  

I read a list today of which scenes belonged to which guy.  And man, without Whedon, this film likely would have been a snoozefest.  Virtually all the character and heart seems to have come from Josh. 

And here's something I just thought about, if Nightwing exists in this Universe, where the heck was he?

Yea I can't remember who said it but I thought it was Whedon.. it was a director before JL came out.. said they wouldn't wanna do that because thats a"Marvel" thing and didn't want their fans to have to wait around after the movies..

 

just funny they are now following suit.  Don't blame em, leaves the audience wanting more and/or getting a last chuckle.

 

as for nightwing, that is an excellent question.  I do recall hearing a rumoured movie for him.

Edited November 21, 20178 yr by SPuDS

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

They sort of stumbled across Wonder Woman as a success I think.  Its a shame they put their eggs in the Justice League basket because WW could have been the real lens through which we get to know everyone and slowly build to the team up film. 

A Legion of Doom films has a better chance to be successful because it could be more grounded.  But then you need Joker and I wasnt buying Leto's portrayal.

If they were really serious they would have made wonder woman 2 and used that as a vehicle to introduce some of the new faces for justice league. Not even as a main plot point either, just a sidebar. DC and Warner brothers wants it all without the work, and so because of that I hope they fail.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

The way I read it, the final post credit scene (the one that directly impacts future films) was from Snyder.  The mid-credit scene which is more fun and has no bearing on future films, was added by Whedon.  

I read a list today of which scenes belonged to which guy.  And man, without Whedon, this film likely would have been a snoozefest.  Virtually all the character and heart seems to have come from Josh. 

And here's something I just thought about, if Nightwing exists in this Universe, where the heck was he?

Lots of bad guys in the world.  He may have been off doing something else.  Something secretive for Bruce.  Not having powers, he wouldn't have been too useful.

Hollywood still makes movies?   Huh, who knew?

 

Seriously though, not much to look forward to in terms of blockbusters.  I loved comic book movies and such, but now, I'm pretty much done.  Haven't even seen the new Spiderman or Thor or JLA.  Everything just looks so blah and done before.  The 'expanded universes' now suffer the same fate as comic books themselves.......too many, too often.

I've been saying it for almost a year, Logan was the end for me.  It was so amazing and so well done, it transcended the 'comic book movie.'  None could be better so why bother?  "Brutal with a heart." That's how I describe it.

There was rampant speculation earlier this week that Warners was cancelling the DC Extended Universe due to the below-expected box office of Justice League.  But reportedly that is not the case.  Who knows what they are doing.

Seems like common sense issues with that franchise.  I've whined enough about how they should have built up to JL slower.  Perhaps the most compelling aspect of JL was the

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bad Superman

(Do we need spoilers still?)

So I'd have gone with that concept as the main plot of a JL film and the threat that brings all the heroes together.

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Have the bad guy (Lex or whomever) resurrect Superman and Batman knows he alone cannot stop him...voila