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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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2 hours ago, Tracker said:

That would never fly- Klingons get frisky only every few years and Trip would probably not hang around waiting for that. And when she experienced pon farr, it would likely kill him anyways.

I don’t think Vulcans can only mate every seven years.  I think they’re just compelled to.  B’elana and Paris were married with children on VOY. 
 

And T’Pol and Trip did have a child that didn’t survive 

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Oh yeah that final episode was awful.  What a slap in the face. Bakula should have used his leverage to nix it. But he’s a class act.   Still waiting for a Quantum Leap revival though. 
 

apparently the temporal Cold War was to be resolved with Future Guy being Archer himself.  Meh. 

I read that as well. We don't know how that would have played out had the series gone 7 seasons.

5 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I think the Pon Farr only happens to single Vulcans who haven't mated.  Besides, according to Star Trek cannon, Spock was half human. His mother was human & had a long marriage to his father Sarek.  

It's every adult Vulcan. 

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Pon_farr

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I don’t think Vulcans can only mate every seven years.  I think they’re just compelled to.  B’elana and Paris were married with children on VOY. 
 

And T’Pol and Trip did have a child that didn’t survive 

Belanna was a half Klingon. Her father was human. He ran out on his family. 

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I don’t think Vulcans can only mate every seven years.  I think they’re just compelled to.  B’elana and Paris were married with children on VOY. 
 

And T’Pol and Trip did have a child that didn’t survive 

From the link I posted:

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One way to interpret pon farr is that Vulcans only have sex once every seven years. However, TOS writer and continuity story editor D.C. Fontana once explained that pon farr is not the only time Vulcans feel romantic attraction, sexual desire, or engage in sexual activity:

"Vulcans mate normally any time they want to. However, every seven years you do the ritual, the ceremony, the whole thing. The biological urge. You must, but any other time is any other emotion – humanoid emotion – when you're in love. When you want to, you know when the urge is there, you do it. This every-seven-years business was taken too literally by too many people who don't stop and understand. We didn't mean it only every seven years. I mean, every seven years would be a little bad, and it would not explain the Vulcans of many different ages which are not seven years apart." – D.C. Fontana (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages)

 

5 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

And T’Pol and Trip did have a child that didn’t survive 

Yes but #RoboCop

9 hours ago, Tracker said:

And you might notice that she's not around any more.....

That's because Vulcans live for 150 years, 

Best Star Trek Series: Deep Space Nine.

Worst Series: Voyager

Best Episode: The Tholian Web. (Introduced the Tholians as well as the USS Defiant. The story of the Defiant's fate is told many years later in Star Trek: Enterprise.

Worst Episode: These Are The Voyages: Star Trek: Enterprise.  (What a final **** you to the fans by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga who were the Executive  Producers of Enterprise).

Best Captain: Benjamin Sisko. 

Worst Captain:  Catherine Janeway  (She always preached The Prime Directive to others but ignored it when it suited her). 

Smartest Captain: Jean Luc Picard (Expert on geology, archaeology, played the flute, an avid fencer, loved Shakespreare, 1930's crime novels  & a voracious reader). 

Dumbest Captain: Catherine Janeway. (Stranded her crew in the Delta quadrant. A 75 year journey home & she kept taking detours to check out spacial anomalies).   

Best First Officer: Mr. Spock.

Worst First Officer: Michael Burnham (Started an inter galactic war & killed her Captain).

Best Doctor: Leonard McCoy ("I'm a Doctor not a bricklayer").

Worst Doctor: Katherine Pulaski (Fans couldn't stand her & the way she treated Data. Not even Picard liked her. Given the boot after one season).

Best Engineer: Geordie LaForge.

Worst Engineer: Wesley Crusher (No one likes snot nosed child geniuses).

Most Overrated Character: The Doctor on Voyager. (The episode Virtuoso where he sings for a planet of unappreciative aliens is one of the worst Trek episodes ever made). 

Most Underrated Character: Chakotay (So underused by the writers at the expense of the Doctor who got more & more stories as Voyager went on).

Most Misunderstood Character: Odo

Most Beloved Character: Mr. Spock & Mr. Data (tie).

Most Hated Character: Wesley Crusher & Neelix (tie).

Most Arrogant Character:  Seven Of Nine

Most Humble Or Nicest Character: Lt. Nyota Uhura.

Best Newcomer: Captain Christopher Pike of Star Trek:  Discovery. 

Worst Newcomer: Dr. Agnes Jurati  of Star Trek: Picard.

Best Villain: The Borg.

Worst Villain: Q  (Biggest ******* in space. Also the most boring villain of all Trek series. 

Best Quote:  "Brain and Brain. What is Brain?" Kara: Spock's Brain. Star Trek: TOS Season 3, Episode 1.

Funniest Star Trek Moment: Q giving Data a moment of laughter.

Saddest Star Trek Moment:  Trip & T'Pol's infant daughter passes away.

Who Would I Want To Have A Beer With? Myles O'Brien.

Who Would I Want In A Bar Fight Beside Me? Worf.

 

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6 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

You’re crazy if you think I’m going to say anything negative of 7 of 9..

It's like knockin the silhouette scene in ENT's Carbon Creek.

6 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

You’re crazy if you think I’m going to say anything negative of 7 of 9..

Being arrogant doesn't take away from.... well, you know. ;)

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Perhaps I’m in the minority but I liked Jurati 

14 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Perhaps I’m in the minority but I liked Jurati 

You also liked her in Goon.

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Perhaps I’m in the minority but I liked Jurati 

Didn't like her at all. I still think that Elnor, the Romulan Samurai was a waste of a character.  The writers could have had him save Hugh but instead decided to kill off another beloved Star Trek character just because they could. 

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9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Didn't like her at all. I still think that Elnor, the Romulan Samurai was a waste of a character.  The writers could have had him save Hugh but instead decided to kill off another beloved Star Trek character just because they could. 

Agreed. Hugh was a much more interesting character. Especially at this point. The Romluan was just another whiny mopey character.

When you look at that episode & storyline what was the reason for killing Hugh? There was none. None at all. He could have been seriously injured but recovered. ******* writers just did it like JJ Abrams did with the alternate Trek universe because he didn't want to follow decades of Star Trek cannon. If these writers, directors & producers can't build upon the past then don't get involved. Go do another series or movie. 

11 hours ago, tacklewasher said:

Agreed. Hugh was a much more interesting character. Especially at this point. The Romluan was just another whiny mopey character.

They just failed to use Elnor properly. Picard kept telling him to stay away. Why would Picard want him along & then make him stay in the background the entire 10 episodes while depending on the wacked & drugged out Raffi Mussiker instead? I kept waiting for  him to steal a scene with his sword fighting but it never happened. He was truly useless. I found Dr Agnes Jurati to be an easily manipulated, weak & wishy washy character with really not a lot of redeeming qualities.  The second "WTH is she doing in this series" character of Picard's crew along with Elnor. I'm hoping he is allowed to break out in the second season. 

Picard was my least favorite season of Trek.

8 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Picard was my least favorite season of Trek.

It started out well, but lost its way in series of sub-plots very quickly. I wouldn't miss it if it did not return, but it will.

A kernel of a good idea that spun widely out of control. There was no need to bring in half the names they did. I don't particularly care if Hugh was killed because this time period has already been overused. 

i was listening to an ENT podcast and apparently season 5 would have dealt with the Romulans(bits had already been set up in S4) and that T'Pol was half-Romulan.

 

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They definitely hid that well. Doohan's missing middle finger.

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