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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 11:46 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

Raine Wilson was great as Harry Mudd.

When Saru asked the computer to display the most decorated Captains, it listed Robert April, Jonthan Archer, Philippa Georgieou, Matt Decker and Chris Pike.  This "canonizes" Robert April for the first time (first Captain of the Enterprise).  April had previously appeared in The Animated Series and in the comic prequel to STID (both pseudo-canon).

Matt Decker one of the great Captains? Considering Spock stopped him from committing suicide with the Enterprise against the Planet Eater? He had no chance of defeating the machine & yet was going to sacrifice the lives of everyone onboard the ship after he had already lost his entire crew.

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8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Matt Decker one of the great Captains? Considering Spock stopped him from committing suicide with the Enterprise against the Planet Eater? He had no chance of defeating the machine & yet was going to sacrifice the lives of everyone onboard the ship after he had already lost his entire crew.

Discovery takes place before that episode of TOS: The Doomsday Machine.  In that episode, Matt Decker was a Commodore who's ship came under attack by the Planet Killer.  He beamed his crew to safety, or so he thought, on the planet below.  The Planet Killer destroyed the planet, killing the crew and essentially driving Decker mad.  While he did take command of the Enterprise, it turns out his plan was the correct one.  He stole a shuttle and exploded it inside the Planet Killer, causing a drop in power.  That gave Kirk the idea of using Decker's damaged ship to create a larger explosion, destroying the Planet Killer.

And even though we know what Decker did in that episode, Kirk recorded that he gave his life in the line of duty.  A novel later established that Kirk kept the details cloudy and the implication was that Decker piloted his ship into the Planet Killer and destroyed it rather than Kirk piloting the ship (and being beamed off at the last second).

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Discovery takes place before that episode of TOS: The Doomsday Machine.  In that episode, Matt Decker was a Commodore who's ship came under attack by the Planet Killer.  He beamed his crew to safety, or so he thought, on the planet below.  The Planet Killer destroyed the planet, killing the crew and essentially driving Decker mad.  While he did take command of the Enterprise, it turns out his plan was the correct one.  He stole a shuttle and exploded it inside the Planet Killer, causing a drop in power.  That gave Kirk the idea of using Decker's damaged ship to create a larger explosion, destroying the Planet Killer.

And even though we know what Decker did in that episode, Kirk recorded that he gave his life in the line of duty.  A novel later established that Kirk kept the details cloudy and the implication was that Decker piloted his ship into the Planet Killer and destroyed it rather than Kirk piloting the ship (and being beamed off at the last second).

And William Windom owned that role.

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1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

And William Windom owned that role.

Interestingly, I read up a little about that episode (Im a bit of a Trek nerd) and it was originally written for someone else and the role was "stronger".  For example, instead of Decker being overcome with grief, he was more enraged and wanting revenge.  it was envisioned as a Moby **** story.  They also pulled back from of his lines so he didnt seem like a stronger character than Kirk.

10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Discovery takes place before that episode of TOS: The Doomsday Machine.  In that episode, Matt Decker was a Commodore who's ship came under attack by the Planet Killer.  He beamed his crew to safety, or so he thought, on the planet below.  The Planet Killer destroyed the planet, killing the crew and essentially driving Decker mad.  While he did take command of the Enterprise, it turns out his plan was the correct one.  He stole a shuttle and exploded it inside the Planet Killer, causing a drop in power.  That gave Kirk the idea of using Decker's damaged ship to create a larger explosion, destroying the Planet Killer.

And even though we know what Decker did in that episode, Kirk recorded that he gave his life in the line of duty.  A novel later established that Kirk kept the details cloudy and the implication was that Decker piloted his ship into the Planet Killer and destroyed it rather than Kirk piloting the ship (and being beamed off at the last second).

It's hard to keep track of the timeline sometimes. 

Next Star Trek series please make it out being in the 25th or 26th century please. These prequels can be confusing. Especially with 2 universes thanks to JJ Abrams. 

As a life long Trek fan, if not for Jason Isaacs I wouldn't watch this.

28 minutes ago, pigseye said:

As a life long Trek fan, if not for Jason Isaacs I wouldn't watch this.

I think the series is far better than one actor. 

24 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I think the series is far better than one actor. 

Isaacs is the only one with any acting chops, the rest are hard to find believable.

1 hour ago, pigseye said:

As a life long Trek fan, if not for Jason Isaacs I wouldn't watch this.

As he given out his signature line yet? Nothing comes to me as something he's said more then once.

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This show is a love hate relationship with me.  Somethings I like, somethings just seem so stupid.  I still hate the Klingons.

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13 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Next Star Trek series please make it out being in the 25th or 26th century please. These prequels can be confusing. Especially with 2 universes thanks to JJ Abrams. 

I detest the idea of going that far into the future.  Star Trek is science fiction, not fantasy.   It works because it's us extrapolated into the future.  But the further you get from "now" the less grounded and connected it is.

By Voyager time we had tremendous technology.  Going another 100-200 years beyond and every ship should be crewed by Holograms and commanded telepathically.  No drama in that.

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11 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

As he given out his signature line yet? Nothing comes to me as something he's said more then once.

His line is "Go".  lol

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11 hours ago, pigseye said:

Isaacs is the only one with any acting chops, the rest are hard to find believable.

Really?  I find it the best acted ensemble of the franchise.  If you go back to TNG, their first year (even two) was pretty rough.  Any series with Stewart and Spiner can be great though.  But it was once that cast sort of "got" their characters that the chemistry really shown threw.  I think Discovery is way ahead of the other series' in acting, depth of character and stories.  And can only get better as they develop more chemistry and the "voice" of the characters.

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I detest the idea of going that far into the future.  Star Trek is science fiction, not fantasy.   It works because it's us extrapolated into the future.  But the further you get from "now" the less grounded and connected it is.

By Voyager time we had tremendous technology.  Going another 100-200 years beyond and every ship should be crewed by Holograms and commanded telepathically.  No drama in that.

The future doesn’t necessarily have to go in a linear trajectory forward in terms of technological advancement.  You could introduce some kind of disaster or event that has devastated or collapsed the Federation and give it more of an edgier feel.

Would it still be Star Trek without the Federation?  Probably not, but you could have the show trying to rebuild it.
 

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1 minute ago, Rich said:

The future doesn’t necessarily have to go in a linear trajectory forward in terms of technological advancement.  You could introduce some kind of disaster or event that has devastated or collapsed the Federation and give it more of an edgier feel.

Would it still be Star Trek without the Federation?  Probably not, but you could have the show trying to rebuild it.
 

Thats the other idea I've seen.  But if the idea is to create a scenario to send the Federation tech back to the TOS era, just do a TOS era series.  I dont begrudge some fans their desires but I has always perplexed me the reflex that Star Trek must always go further and further into the future.  There is so much open space in the history of Trek that would be fun to fill in.

My personal desire for the new series was Captain April (brand new just-launched Enterprise 1701) or an Enterprise B series (still have potential cameo's for TOS cast and the series could happen in the wake of James Kirk's death with the first "new" Enterprise with a new crew.

53 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I detest the idea of going that far into the future.  Star Trek is science fiction, not fantasy.   It works because it's us extrapolated into the future.  But the further you get from "now" the less grounded and connected it is.

By Voyager time we had tremendous technology.  Going another 100-200 years beyond and every ship should be crewed by Holograms and commanded telepathically.  No drama in that.

It could take place 30 after TNG. With the sets and FX of today it'll look like the future. Worf will look different tho :D

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6 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

It could take place 30 after TNG. With the sets and FX of today it'll look like the future. Worf will look different tho :D

Dont get me wrong, good writers and a good idea trumps everything.  But I like the idea of being closer to "us" than going beyond.  Although I also liked the idea of a Temporal Investigations series that jumped around.  But I imagine it would be expensive.

Fuller's original pitch for Discovery was to explore different eras every season.  So the current Discovery era, then TOS and so on and so forth up to TNG and beyond.  CBS said they'd greenlight season 1 and take it from there.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Really?  I find it the best acted ensemble of the franchise.  If you go back to TNG, their first year (even two) was pretty rough.  Any series with Stewart and Spiner can be great though.  But it was once that cast sort of "got" their characters that the chemistry really shown threw.  I think Discovery is way ahead of the other series' in acting, depth of character and stories.  And can only get better as they develop more chemistry and the "voice" of the characters.

Didn't they replace all the writers after the first year of TNG? Thought I heard that somewhere before. Maybe the Discovery will pick up but I don't think it will hold my interest that long.

48 minutes ago, pigseye said:

Didn't they replace all the writers after the first year of TNG? Thought I heard that somewhere before.

First year of TNG was more like TOS then any other Trek season post-TOS. 

7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I detest the idea of going that far into the future.  Star Trek is science fiction, not fantasy.   It works because it's us extrapolated into the future.  But the further you get from "now" the less grounded and connected it is.

By Voyager time we had tremendous technology.  Going another 100-200 years beyond and every ship should be crewed by Holograms and commanded telepathically.  No drama in that.

Okay, I can accept that. Just stop with the prequels after this series. I remember on Enterprise how the ship just had hull plating & it couldn't kick anyone's ass out there. People hated that show enough as it was. Making the Enterprise look weak in battle didn't help as well as the Vulcans being downright arrogant & unfriendly. Fans wanted to see the Enterprise out there making a name for itself. Not trying to avert battle because they'd be destroyed.

7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

By Voyager time we had tremendous technology.

Only cause future Janeway brought it back with her :D

16 hours ago, Rich said:

The future doesn’t necessarily have to go in a linear trajectory forward in terms of technological advancement.  You could introduce some kind of disaster or event that has devastated or collapsed the Federation and give it more of an edgier feel.

Would it still be Star Trek without the Federation?  Probably not, but you could have the show trying to rebuild it.
 

I agree. It wouldn't be Star Trek anymore. 

15 hours ago, pigseye said:

Didn't they replace all the writers after the first year of TNG? Thought I heard that somewhere before. Maybe the Discovery will pick up but I don't think it will hold my interest that long.

Well, it'll hold my interest.

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