Captain Blue Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Lawless is a bit of a windbag, but I don't hate his stuff. Since he's been writing with a bit more of a positive attitude, I find it easier to read/listen to. Negativity will wear on anyone and even though he has a bit of a track record to smooth over, I'm willing to let Gary settle into his role as a main sports "guy" in Winnipeg. See, I don't think the problem many have (at least not me) is that he has to be either positive or negative about the team. As the lead columnist for the Freep, I do however expect him to be educated. Before the Unknown Poster gets all in a knot and shouts "But it's just his opinion!" I would like to point out that opinions can be both stupid and/or wrong. That's my problem with Lawless. If you are going to praise or criticize the Bombers or Jets, do it with both logic and evidence. There are plenty of reasonable arguments to be made off that. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcanadian Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 He picked an angle and then talked about it in a relatively well-written article. If you take it for face value, you see a sportswriter talking about the state of the franchise and how it would appear based on the off-season moves we've made. Not too inflammatory imo. Any further that's being read into the article is a choice you're consciously making. He's presenting a story and we can either like it or lump it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleLevel Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 When I saw the words "great article" and "Gary Lawless" on the title of this thread I knew there'd be fireworks for sure. I don't hate Lawless but I don't go out of my way to read him either. As was noted before, he will change his opinions pretty quickly if the opportunity presents itself. It's nice to read a positive article, but I don't expect it to last too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road griller Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I change the channel when he is on t.v., change the station when he comes on the radio and never read an article unless it is mentioned on here. Even then I just skim over it. So he does not bother me at all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You see once again you miss the entire point. I love to argue, the problem is that you started bitching and moaning about the fact that I didn't let you get away with your bullshit so in an effort to ease up I said I'd tone it down as long as you did, but you didn't so now I am wondering why. The problem with comparing your criticism of Mack is that you invent things, when I criticize Lawless it's all the truth and much more about an opinion than pretending it's all fact like you do in regards to Mack. Don't worry, you can't get me worked up because I don't get worked up about this stuff like you do. Have you ever seen me complain about people arguing with me? That's the entire goal here. Westy Sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcanadian Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You see once again you miss the entire point. I love to argue, the problem is that you started bitching and moaning about the fact that I didn't let you get away with your bullshit so in an effort to ease up I said I'd tone it down as long as you did, but you didn't so now I am wondering why. The problem with comparing your criticism of Mack is that you invent things, when I criticize Lawless it's all the truth and much more about an opinion than pretending it's all fact like you do in regards to Mack. Don't worry, you can't get me worked up because I don't get worked up about this stuff like you do. Have you ever seen me complain about people arguing with me? That's the entire goal here. I think you're getting worked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 See, this is exactly what I was talking about. The same people criticize & insult Lawless even when he has a positive article yet object to any ongoing criticism of Joe Mack. The same old **** gets stirred round & round by the same people. Yet, here we have the same people criticizing & name calling Lawless also have a major hard on for Joe Mack. Dare not criticize Joe because the hair on the back of their necks go up in anger. Yet, they make fun of Lawless any chance they get. Totally hypocritical if you ask me. Well too, too bad. It's a football website & as long as the comments are within the rules & the subject of Joe Mack comes up & you don't like it's just too bad. Any subject is fair game. Stop talking about Lawless in a negative manner with insults if you don't like criticism of Mack in any way, shape or form. You can't have it both ways so don't expect it. I'm not defending Lawless & the content he writes. Not saying it's good or bad. just expressing an opinion. Well when you want to stop inventing make believe arguments about Joe Mack I'll stop arguing with you. It's totally different because I'm calling Lawless a terrible writer, which he is. Nothing more nothing less. Just stating the simple fact that since Tait moved to the Jets and Turner stopped doing anything the Free Press coverage has been laughably bad and Lawless is part of that. No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You can't defend Mack.. The record under him is laughable. yes.. We made it to the grey cup which was a really nice surprise, but its like Buck and Lapo Willed us into that game. The lack of talent at the O-line, Qb and and OC coaching positions never got better... Mack took a bad team over from Kelly, and didn't really improve it in the 4 years he had managing the Team. Did he find some good players? Sure.. But he didnt address the positions that needed to be addressed. Lapo was a good coach and was good for the team, but he had **** to deal with.. Burke's team looked even worse with similar players.. but i digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcanadian Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 See, this is exactly what I was talking about. The same people criticize & insult Lawless even when he has a positive article yet object to any ongoing criticism of Joe Mack. The same old **** gets stirred round & round by the same people. Yet, here we have the same people criticizing & name calling Lawless also have a major hard on for Joe Mack. Dare not criticize Joe because the hair on the back of their necks go up in anger. Yet, they make fun of Lawless any chance they get. Totally hypocritical if you ask me. Well too, too bad. It's a football website & as long as the comments are within the rules & the subject of Joe Mack comes up & you don't like it's just too bad. Any subject is fair game. Stop talking about Lawless in a negative manner with insults if you don't like criticism of Mack in any way, shape or form. You can't have it both ways so don't expect it. I'm not defending Lawless & the content he writes. Not saying it's good or bad. just expressing an opinion. Well when you want to stop inventing make believe arguments about Joe Mack I'll stop arguing with you. It's totally different because I'm calling Lawless a terrible writer, which he is. Nothing more nothing less. Just stating the simple fact that since Tait moved to the Jets and Turner stopped doing anything the Free Press coverage has been laughably bad and Lawless is part of that. No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You can't defend Mack.. The record under him is laughable. yes.. We made it to the grey cup which was a really nice surprise, but its like Buck and Lapo Willed us into that game. The lack of talent at the O-line, Qb and and OC coaching positions never got better... Mack took a bad team over from Kelly, and didn't really improve it in the 4 years he had managing the Team. Did he find some good players? Sure.. But he didnt address the positions that needed to be addressed. Lapo was a good coach and was good for the team, but he had **** to deal with.. Burke's team looked even worse with similar players.. but i digress. That's the CFL for you though. Squeak into the playoffs and get hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You see once again you miss the entire point. I love to argue, the problem is that you started bitching and moaning about the fact that I didn't let you get away with your bullshit so in an effort to ease up I said I'd tone it down as long as you did, but you didn't so now I am wondering why. The problem with comparing your criticism of Mack is that you invent things, when I criticize Lawless it's all the truth and much more about an opinion than pretending it's all fact like you do in regards to Mack. Don't worry, you can't get me worked up because I don't get worked up about this stuff like you do. Have you ever seen me complain about people arguing with me? That's the entire goal here. Settled Down shelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 See, this is exactly what I was talking about. The same people criticize & insult Lawless even when he has a positive article yet object to any ongoing criticism of Joe Mack. The same old **** gets stirred round & round by the same people. Yet, here we have the same people criticizing & name calling Lawless also have a major hard on for Joe Mack. Dare not criticize Joe because the hair on the back of their necks go up in anger. Yet, they make fun of Lawless any chance they get. Totally hypocritical if you ask me. Well too, too bad. It's a football website & as long as the comments are within the rules & the subject of Joe Mack comes up & you don't like it's just too bad. Any subject is fair game. Stop talking about Lawless in a negative manner with insults if you don't like criticism of Mack in any way, shape or form. You can't have it both ways so don't expect it. I'm not defending Lawless & the content he writes. Not saying it's good or bad. just expressing an opinion. Well when you want to stop inventing make believe arguments about Joe Mack I'll stop arguing with you. It's totally different because I'm calling Lawless a terrible writer, which he is. Nothing more nothing less. Just stating the simple fact that since Tait moved to the Jets and Turner stopped doing anything the Free Press coverage has been laughably bad and Lawless is part of that. No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You can't defend Mack.. The record under him is laughable. yes.. We made it to the grey cup which was a really nice surprise, but its like Buck and Lapo Willed us into that game. The lack of talent at the O-line, Qb and and OC coaching positions never got better... Mack took a bad team over from Kelly, and didn't really improve it in the 4 years he had managing the Team. Did he find some good players? Sure.. But he didnt address the positions that needed to be addressed. Lapo was a good coach and was good for the team, but he had **** to deal with.. Burke's team looked even worse with similar players.. but i digress. That's the CFL for you though. Squeak into the playoffs and get hot. Yup.. part of why the league is fun... But the grey cup appearance doesn't really speak to this being becuase of the work Mack did.. sure. he is repsonsible for getting the team there.. But he is also responsible for how shitty the team was before and after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 You can't defend Mack.. The record under him is laughable. yes.. We made it to the grey cup which was a really nice surprise, but its like Buck and Lapo Willed us into that game. The lack of talent at the O-line, Qb and and OC coaching positions never got better... Mack took a bad team over from Kelly, and didn't really improve it in the 4 years he had managing the Team. Did he find some good players? Sure.. But he didnt address the positions that needed to be addressed. Lapo was a good coach and was good for the team, but he had **** to deal with.. Burke's team looked even worse with similar players.. but i digress. You can defend against erroneous attacks. If iso kept his attacks to simple stuff like the record then there's no issue but he goes into things that are easily argued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You see once again you miss the entire point. I love to argue, the problem is that you started bitching and moaning about the fact that I didn't let you get away with your bullshit so in an effort to ease up I said I'd tone it down as long as you did, but you didn't so now I am wondering why. The problem with comparing your criticism of Mack is that you invent things, when I criticize Lawless it's all the truth and much more about an opinion than pretending it's all fact like you do in regards to Mack. Don't worry, you can't get me worked up because I don't get worked up about this stuff like you do. Have you ever seen me complain about people arguing with me? That's the entire goal here. Settled Down shelly Did you just respond to yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Atomic Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Lawless does a fine job. Look how worked up you all get. Mission accomplished. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 You're the man wolowitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Lawless does a fine job. Look how worked up you all get. Mission accomplished. Every time someone criticizes a writer on here we have to read a million variations of this comment. I don't buy it. Other than the odd exception (Paul Friesen?) I think these guys are actually attempting to write thought-provoking articles that people read because they inform and are interesting. It's just that they (sports media) seem to get caught up in a lot of negative, cynical groupthink a lot of the time. Probably because a lot of these guys don't appear to actually like the sports that they are covering. And I'm saying this all in a general context, as I don't really think Lawless really does that. I don't mind him. I do strongly disagree with a lot of his opinions. But that's not uncommon in sports I'm sure. I can't expect everyone to be as smrt as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Lawless does a fine job. Look how worked up you all get. Mission accomplished. If we were discussing his actual article maybe but it's not that, we're discussion whether he's a poor writer or a terrible writer, entirely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Until then please again spare me the imagined optimism! Winnipeg Blue Bombers, Superbowl LIII champions....ahhhh....my imagination is the only thing that has kept me sane since 1990.... We've all been living on a mixture of hope and anger. Yes, this batch of quarterbacks doesn't have a lot of name-brand recognition, but last year, we KNEW what were were going to have to live with in quarterbacks, and it was ug-a-lee. It was one of the few seasons that I dreaded looking forward to watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 No way,man. I'll argue with you till the cows come home about Mack. You get bothered.... and you do get bothered.... even though you deny it... whenever someone dares to criticize Mack. Yet you criticize Lawless any chance you get which I find hypocritical. So, hey everyone.... Looks like 17 & I are juuuust getting started. You see once again you miss the entire point. I love to argue, the problem is that you started bitching and moaning about the fact that I didn't let you get away with your bullshit so in an effort to ease up I said I'd tone it down as long as you did, but you didn't so now I am wondering why. The problem with comparing your criticism of Mack is that you invent things, when I criticize Lawless it's all the truth and much more about an opinion than pretending it's all fact like you do in regards to Mack. Don't worry, you can't get me worked up because I don't get worked up about this stuff like you do. Have you ever seen me complain about people arguing with me? That's the entire goal here. Settled Down shelly Did you just respond to yourself? Just messin' with his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 apparently my mirrored avatar was too confusing for some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 apparently my mirrored avatar was too confusing for some people LOL you bugger. That's why I thought that was 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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