Firstly.....I told ya so

I said in off-season that not moving away from Osh would be a mistake...as generally a leopard doesnt change his spots. The FA period gave a bit of a pause, and some positivity so was willing to see if he is actually smartened up and gonna change his ways.

But.....from day one of camp, what I saw...What I heard...the sound bites of who was slated where....etc...etc...I knew right away we'd be in store for a failure as that cemented it...I Sounded the alarm right outta the shoot...to the "yeah buts"....and..........

I told ya so

2022 15-3 First place 538 for 370 against...lose Grey Cup by playing 5 guys who should never been on roster due to injury

2023 14-4 First place 594 for 377 against..Lose Grey Cup by essentially self sabotage and roster/injury issues

2024 11-7 first place 447 for 366 against...Lose Grey cup again by self sabotage/Stupidity

2025 10-8 fourth place 459 for 424 against...Bounced out in semis...varying reasons why but we didn't even really deserve to be there

2026 7-8 at current (9 wins will be a miracle but likely we sub 500...383 for 419 against...most likely cellar dwelling

See a trend...pattern...Need I say more...what constituted a 3 yr extension for that? Good will and mulligan for the 2019/2021 Wins..which were ions ago in football yrs was used up with the stupidity of 2023 and 2024...2025 essentially confirmed it

Secondly props to Vaval...sure it may have seemed he was abused but he was basically in perfect position on pretty much every play, and or came up and limited the gain immediately. He was the unlucky recipient of some truly perfect execution, and some incredible effort from Philpot and Alexander...God thing he was out there or we would have been royally embarrassed.

Coaching....out classed...schooled...no answers....no adjustments...continuation of the insanity doing things that all yr have been shown to not work

Kelly all day...why is he out there....Not needed ratio wise....just get owned left right and center....I sure Texada would offer more as the extra guy...Or whomever else was an extra before him...Just lunacy...

Why so much Schmeck?...Hardly saw Ceresna much and Schmeck out snapped him so my question was Ceresna even 100 percent and good to go?...and if we knew he wasnt and why he was limited in reps...then WTF was he even dressed????...again just piss poor rostering by Smuggles (Its funny tho as the last few games the smug has seemed to disappear and now looks more like duhhhhhh)

Which brings me to Smith...if he was close to healthy why not dressed??..Ceresna was...With Griffin back (thank god) was Smuggles too much of a pussssy to sit one of Jones or Wilson and elevate Smith over them?...That made zero sense Stuart for Smith.

It was very apparent we missed Smith out there...Jones was exposed all night and although Wilson wasnt really...he just not a playmaker anymore. Christ who is a playmaker on this defence? I bet Vaval could be if we let him grow into the position...You can see it already...Same with Smith....Griffin also has shown he makes a difference.

Speaking of pussssies Hi Kelly...Holm...I'd even say Nicolls now too...We are a small waify group...nobody fears, and at times they just look like amateurs out there. You can lump Kramdi in there too really...for every game he has like that first one back from injury he has 3..4...5 where he does nothing...misses tackles because all he does is dive at feet and is generally in space kinda doing nothing...He is a role guy and situational specialist...sorta...But thats about it

We need to move on from Holm..Nichols and Kramdi next yr and the what...500k they eat up??...Thats crazy for a position in the CFL that should basically be your cheapest and those funds could be sorely used elswhere

Cant forget the Elsbury issue either...like wtf more do they need to see to realize he just isn't it?...Big guy...apparently massive legs...but put him in the pussssy coral with the previous mentioned....Time for Eli's aggression and mean streak...Cant be worse and I guarantee it will be better

Which also leads into the issue of player use...It was basically a foregone conclusion that by the last half of the 3rd quarter we weren't gonna pull that out...no way...no how

What coach wouldn't put in his backup QB who has all the tools and ability but hasnt got a real snap in Ernest (Perkins) and see what he has?

Or yank the Center who all year has been weak and see what the guy who is supposed to be the backup can do?

Maybe sit down Jones who was inconsequential out there and give Shay a sniff? See if he has ability...By all accounts most experts pre-draft aid he was most pro ready, but had the unfortunate circumstance to be drafted here and sit in the Bomber grave yard of no chance..no opportunity

I'll tell you...Our coach...that's who....And he's done it his whole time here and it's really caught up to him and now is saddled with old guys on downside...Guys who never really had it anyway but he thinks do, and a litany of scrubs on his roster who serve no real usefulness and a handful of guys who need to somehow get some blackmail on him to get a legit chance.

We aren't no playoff team let alone a legit contender...and we won't be moving forward staying the course we currently on coaching wise, and sad as it is to say hopefully we don't squeak into the playoffs again as it will only justify or give reason to keep things in place.

I not sure in what world a 5 yr slide and a lot of the problems are continuations of previous yrs blunders and stupidity where something isn't done to reverse things...Please anyone enlighten me on that. But we keep it all in place once this sad sack season finally has a fork in it, but don't expect 2027 to be some big revival, and in all honesty why would anyone think that?...Smugs got lucky and caught lightening in a bottle now 5 yrs ago...Thanks for the memories...Now go away

Again..........I told ya so

Edited October 4Oct 4 by Booch

Grabbing some fresh tin foil and making a hat... Maybe Brady isn't being used later in games because his injury is hampering him... Takes off hat, tries to flatten it, gets frustrated, makes it into a ball, and throws it out.

18 hours ago, wbbfan said:

we may well be, it’s close. but it blm was healthy, it wouldn’t even be close.

Frankly, for an old team with lots of championship pedigree, the in ability to; step up at home, against the west, against the best, when it counts the most, against down teams, and after a team punches us in the mouth, is the kiss of death.

You can’t be old, experienced, and unable to excel in some area as a team.

It’s time to tear down and build new. the good thing about that is you don’t need multiple years to accomplish that. But you do need to start now, and it begins with firings. Idc who at this point. Idc who fills the spots either.

At least one upper brass, one co, and one asst coach needs to go. a couple under performing players need the door too. Maybe trade some one like white, but a shake up at all levels is required now.

This would not be as potentially traumatic as it appears to be needing had this been done last season and even less so the season prior. The price for inattention keeps going up.

12 hours ago, Brandon said:

The culture was good and it wasn't a manic crazed Dinwiddie like regime. I have no issues with the coaches not airing dirty laundry and keeping things professional. The issue is them not making the necessary changes either out of stubborness or out of loyalty.

The problem with FIFO thinking is that if it is not pruned vigorously, it becomes an insular, siege, us-against-the-world-protect each-other mentality which rapidly deteriorates. I don't know football stratagems all that well, but I know people and dysfunctional groups, and this has become one of those.

Unfortunately our record shows we're not Ottawa bad, but we're Ottawa bad. A couple tough breaks for Ottawa otherwise their record would be better. The Bombers seem to be a one quarter team and this past game against Montreal, that good quarter came in the first and was not as good as in the past.

Seems if they stop Brady from running on a few plays, Condell gives up on the run and the rest of our game plan just flat out sucks. The O line is pretty much like a sieve, so even Alexander would have problems making reads with defenders in his face before he gets 2 steamboats out!

9 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

After this last game I'm really happy Brady signed a multi year deal. Because there's no chance he'd sign again if he were a FA after this season. The way Condell completely ignores him and just refuses to use him in the passing game...leaves me speechless. I just don't understand it. And by this point, there's no excuse I'm willing to accept. Condell can go coach a high school team.

Ans why Osh hasn't stepped in and said "wtf you doing here" or insist to make him more of the focal point...as he is the HC and in charge and at end of the day it's his team is also baffling and a sign of a guy with either no clue...no balls...or no ability to make tough decisions and or issue consequences....it's really weak to be honest

7 hours ago, Tracker said:

This would not be as potentially traumatic as it appears to be needing had this been done last season and even less so the season prior. The price for inattention keeps going up.

yup...has compounded on us for 3...almost 4 yrs now and well...Interest is now due...in arrears really and we dont have ability to pay the piper

The message eventually gets stale. Look at Mike Tomlin for example. Good head coach. Wins a Super Bowl in his second year, makes another two years later. After that.. no playoff wins in his last 8 seasons as head coach. Painfully mediocre in the fact they weren’t bad enough to tank but not good enough to be a contender. I see us in a similar boat. We’ll likely finish 8-10 or 9-9 and either make the playoffs or miss out narrowly and get told the same song and dance we’ve been getting since we lost in 2022.. next year will be different; we have a good core, just a couple of mistakes nothing drastic, maybe one or two moves to bring in a vet.. Miller built up a lot of good grace from the fans over the years, but even the most casual fan can see the steep decline year after year.

15 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

MOS and KW have been here since 2014, this is season 12, that is staying power.

Time for a change.

8 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

The message eventually gets stale. Look at Mike Tomlin for example. Good head coach. Wins a Super Bowl in his second year, makes another two years later. After that.. no playoff wins in his last 8 seasons as head coach. Painfully mediocre in the fact they weren’t bad enough to tank but not good enough to be a contender. I see us in a similar boat. We’ll likely finish 8-10 or 9-9 and either make the playoffs or miss out narrowly and get told the same song and dance we’ve been getting since we lost in 2022.. next year will be different; we have a good core, just a couple of mistakes nothing drastic, maybe one or two moves to bring in a vet.. Miller built up a lot of good grace from the fans over the years, but even the most casual fan can see the steep decline year after year.

Has MOS secretly been building a world in Minecraft?

On 2026-10-04 at 7:35 AM, Booch said:

Firstly.....I told ya so

I said in off-season that not moving away from Osh would be a mistake...as generally a leopard doesnt change his spots. The FA period gave a bit of a pause, and some positivity so was willing to see if he is actually smartened up and gonna change his ways.

But.....from day one of camp, what I saw...What I heard...the sound bites of who was slated where....etc...etc...I knew right away we'd be in store for a failure as that cemented it...I Sounded the alarm right outta the shoot...to the "yeah buts"....and..........

I told ya so

2022 15-3 First place 538 for 370 against...lose Grey Cup by playing 5 guys who should never been on roster due to injury

2023 14-4 First place 594 for 377 against..Lose Grey Cup by essentially self sabotage and roster/injury issues

2024 11-7 first place 447 for 366 against...Lose Grey cup again by self sabotage/Stupidity

2025 10-8 fourth place 459 for 424 against...Bounced out in semis...varying reasons why but we didn't even really deserve to be there

2026 7-8 at current (9 wins will be a miracle but likely we sub 500...383 for 419 against...most likely cellar dwelling

See a trend...pattern...Need I say more...what constituted a 3 yr extension for that? Good will and mulligan for the 2019/2021 Wins..which were ions ago in football yrs was used up with the stupidity of 2023 and 2024...2025 essentially confirmed it

Secondly props to Vaval...sure it may have seemed he was abused but he was basically in perfect position on pretty much every play, and or came up and limited the gain immediately. He was the unlucky recipient of some truly perfect execution, and some incredible effort from Philpot and Alexander...God thing he was out there or we would have been royally embarrassed.

Coaching....out classed...schooled...no answers....no adjustments...continuation of the insanity doing things that all yr have been shown to not work

Kelly all day...why is he out there....Not needed ratio wise....just get owned left right and center....I sure Texada would offer more as the extra guy...Or whomever else was an extra before him...Just lunacy...

Why so much Schmeck?...Hardly saw Ceresna much and Schmeck out snapped him so my question was Ceresna even 100 percent and good to go?...and if we knew he wasnt and why he was limited in reps...then WTF was he even dressed????...again just piss poor rostering by Smuggles (Its funny tho as the last few games the smug has seemed to disappear and now looks more like duhhhhhh)

Which brings me to Smith...if he was close to healthy why not dressed??..Ceresna was...With Griffin back (thank god) was Smuggles too much of a pussssy to sit one of Jones or Wilson and elevate Smith over them?...That made zero sense Stuart for Smith.

It was very apparent we missed Smith out there...Jones was exposed all night and although Wilson wasnt really...he just not a playmaker anymore. Christ who is a playmaker on this defence? I bet Vaval could be if we let him grow into the position...You can see it already...Same with Smith....Griffin also has shown he makes a difference.

Speaking of pussssies Hi Kelly...Holm...I'd even say Nicolls now too...We are a small waify group...nobody fears, and at times they just look like amateurs out there. You can lump Kramdi in there too really...for every game he has like that first one back from injury he has 3..4...5 where he does nothing...misses tackles because all he does is dive at feet and is generally in space kinda doing nothing...He is a role guy and situational specialist...sorta...But thats about it

We need to move on from Holm..Nichols and Kramdi next yr and the what...500k they eat up??...Thats crazy for a position in the CFL that should basically be your cheapest and those funds could be sorely used elswhere

Cant forget the Elsbury issue either...like wtf more do they need to see to realize he just isn't it?...Big guy...apparently massive legs...but put him in the pussssy coral with the previous mentioned....Time for Eli's aggression and mean streak...Cant be worse and I guarantee it will be better

Which also leads into the issue of player use...It was basically a foregone conclusion that by the last half of the 3rd quarter we weren't gonna pull that out...no way...no how

What coach wouldn't put in his backup QB who has all the tools and ability but hasnt got a real snap in Ernest (Perkins) and see what he has?

Or yank the Center who all year has been weak and see what the guy who is supposed to be the backup can do?

Maybe sit down Jones who was inconsequential out there and give Shay a sniff? See if he has ability...By all accounts most experts pre-draft aid he was most pro ready, but had the unfortunate circumstance to be drafted here and sit in the Bomber grave yard of no chance..no opportunity

I'll tell you...Our coach...that's who....And he's done it his whole time here and it's really caught up to him and now is saddled with old guys on downside...Guys who never really had it anyway but he thinks do, and a litany of scrubs on his roster who serve no real usefulness and a handful of guys who need to somehow get some blackmail on him to get a legit chance.

We aren't no playoff team let alone a legit contender...and we won't be moving forward staying the course we currently on coaching wise, and sad as it is to say hopefully we don't squeak into the playoffs again as it will only justify or give reason to keep things in place.

I not sure in what world a 5 yr slide and a lot of the problems are continuations of previous yrs blunders and stupidity where something isn't done to reverse things...Please anyone enlighten me on that. But we keep it all in place once this sad sack season finally has a fork in it, but don't expect 2027 to be some big revival, and in all honesty why would anyone think that?...Smugs got lucky and caught lightening in a bottle now 5 yrs ago...Thanks for the memories...Now go away

Again..........I told ya so

Yup. I think many of us thought the same thing going into TC. Too many decisions were pre-determined. 3 Canadian receivers was a starting point for failure on offence as an example.

The downward spiral since 2022 that you mentioned should have been a wake up call.

On 2026-10-05 at 6:55 AM, M.Silverback said:

Agreed! And let's throw some blame on our GM who was seen in a video practically pounding the table to draft this guy in the first round! This guy isn't even close to being a CFL level player. If we can't trust our GM and his scouts to find and evaluate talent through the draft and US scouting, we're completely hooped.

I don't get why we don't attempt a pass to Daniels every now and again. Daniels, MCI, Clercius and so on are essentially just pylons on the field in Bomber jerseys. No offensive output and our QB is sacked more often than potatoes being prepped for retail.

8 minutes ago, Blue In BC said:

I don't get why we don't attempt a pass to Daniels every now and again. Daniels, MCI, Clercius and so on are essentially just pylons on the field in Bomber jerseys. No offensive output and our QB is sacked more often than potatoes being prepped for retail.

We've been asking that question for years & nothing changes or ever will with O'Shea. Stubborn or..??