All in all...another disappointment, and there are several reasons for it again...constants if you may call them that and really easily solved...and many won't like hearing this and will blindly disagree, but it's easily fixed if Osh would pull his head partly out his arse. The onus this off-season is on Walters and his team to sign and bring in the talent...and also part ways with some guys...even if the coach disagrees. I cannot see Miller being happy, nor he wanting a major bedshitting at home next yr in the Cup...let alone not even getting to the Cup... 

Thru necessity and not choice we have had to get younger and thats a plus...there are some solid pieces here now to go with keeping the right vets...and thats they key part of it...right vets. And by vet i mean a guy who's been here this yr and before

Lawler and Schoen..Strev...Wilson...Clercius...BO...Demski...Woli ..MCI...Wallace....Bryant...Randolph...Eli......WJ...Nichols...Bonds...Ford...Holm...Griffin...Kramdi...Kelly...Cole...Garbutt....Woods....Adams...Lawson...was on fence with Haba but he stepped up so deserves another shot......Ayers...Hubert..,,Samson...Chris Smith deserves another shot....Person....Qb Wilson....Hubert deserves another camp....I'd love to see Notree back....thats the core we need to focus on retaining....fill in around that...everyone not mentioned who wasn't primarily a ST guy should not be back...and saves up some serious SMS bucks...and makes us younger...hungrier....better

On the fence with ZC and his hefty contract....he will be another yr older and do we want another season of stats only to stumble in play-offs? It seems to be the trend and not a one off....

We have the guys to maintain a core like we seem to like to do...but a younger core....and we need to go that route...and this is totally up to our HC now to do the right thing(s) 

We are set up for continued sustained success....but we need to bring the right players along for it...We need a stud interior dlineman to augment what we have...we need a legit difference maker linebacker...we need a real returner....we need another proven Canadian offensive lineman...we need a real punter....I see 5 dire needs...which isn't a lot in the grand scheme....and the biggest thing we need to do is construct the roster and the PR aa an entity that compliments and covers it....no more carrying wasted spots....or guys all yr that will never bump anyone off...we seem to do that a lot too

And the biggest key...we need to dress and play the best players we have...regardless of birth certificate and or position...and if that means moving pieces around and switching ratio spots...so be it

Edited November 18, 20241 yr by Booch

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

Those 2 things are connected.

Not really. I mean. Our highest paid QB in 23 and 24 just wasn’t good. The play calling was garbage. There’s no excuse this last cup to not give Brady more reps especially when the rookie was in, it’s just dumb **** they do. The injured QB gave the game away in 24. But prior to that had piss poor numbers like every other cup game so far. Zach hasn’t won us a cup yet. AH did and Brady prob could have if they used him. 1 injured receiver shouldn’t be the end for an elite QB like Zach. Maybe Zach isn’t elite tho. I’m mind boggled they didn’t use Brady more. That’s on coaching. But Zach playing like **** in grey cups is on Zach. 

Edited January 26, 20251 yr by Goalie

25 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Not really. I mean. Our highest paid QB in 23 and 24 just wasn’t good. The play calling was garbage. There’s no excuse this last cup to not give Brady more reps especially when the rookie was in, it’s just dumb **** they do. The injured QB gave the game away in 24. But prior to that had piss poor numbers like every other cup game so far. Zach hasn’t won us a cup yet. AH did and Brady prob could have if they used him. 1 injured receiver shouldn’t be the end for an elite QB like Zach. Maybe Zach isn’t elite tho. I’m mind boggled they didn’t use Brady more. That’s on coaching. But Zach playing like **** in grey cups is on Zach. 

Interesting. Pay your QB 600K, then you can win while starting several injured receivers.

5 hours ago, Goalie said:

Not really. I mean. Our highest paid QB in 23 and 24 just wasn’t good. The play calling was garbage. There’s no excuse this last cup to not give Brady more reps especially when the rookie was in, it’s just dumb **** they do. The injured QB gave the game away in 24. But prior to that had piss poor numbers like every other cup game so far. Zach hasn’t won us a cup yet. AH did and Brady prob could have if they used him. 1 injured receiver shouldn’t be the end for an elite QB like Zach. Maybe Zach isn’t elite tho. I’m mind boggled they didn’t use Brady more. That’s on coaching. But Zach playing like **** in grey cups is on Zach. 

The team just didn't seem well prepared at all for the last 2 games.    It did not feel or seem like a team that HAS been to the cup and has played in the big games,  so many rookie mistakes and decisions and game planning.   Super disappointing. 

13 hours ago, Goalie said:

Not really. I mean. Our highest paid QB in 23 and 24 just wasn’t good. The play calling was garbage. There’s no excuse this last cup to not give Brady more reps especially when the rookie was in, it’s just dumb **** they do. The injured QB gave the game away in 24. But prior to that had piss poor numbers like every other cup game so far. Zach hasn’t won us a cup yet. AH did and Brady prob could have if they used him. 1 injured receiver shouldn’t be the end for an elite QB like Zach. Maybe Zach isn’t elite tho. I’m mind boggled they didn’t use Brady more. That’s on coaching. But Zach playing like **** in grey cups is on Zach. 

He was hurt in 2023...literally to the point he couldn't throw as he couldn't plant and throw effective 

7 hours ago, Brandon said:

The team just didn't seem well prepared at all for the last 2 games.    It did not feel or seem like a team that HAS been to the cup and has played in the big games,  so many rookie mistakes and decisions and game planning.   Super disappointing. 

Like I have said..our "great" coaching...or should I better clarify...HC failed us bigtime...in multiple aspects and his babbling after the fact shows he doesn't take ownership or accept it...as he has said he would do same again...so be prepped for more disappointment after apparent "sucessful" seasons...which mean dickall when u camt tale it all the way home

On 2025-01-26 at 7:49 AM, Booch said:

He was hurt in 2023...literally to the point he couldn't throw as he couldn't plant and throw effective 

Like I have said..our "great" coaching...or should I better clarify...HC failed us bigtime...in multiple aspects and his babbling after the fact shows he doesn't take ownership or accept it...as he has said he would do same again...so be prepped for more disappointment after apparent "sucessful" seasons...which mean dickall when u camt tale it all the way home

There’s gonna be a point in time where the team isn’t winning more than they are losing. Let’s hope you keep the same vibes then cuz this I know it all approach is insanity. Making it to the cup 5 straight years is better than being the laughing stock for the 15 prior years. The teams ppl in their 30s and 40s now grew up with sucked. What i wouldn’t have given to be 17 18 19 20 21 right now instead of having actual real life responsibilities. The teams I grew up with and cheered for all sucked. This team is pretty much all they do is go to cup finals. When I was younger cup finals were once in a blue moon and losing happened way more than winning.  Real question for you. I know you’ll get kinda pissy tho and names stuff but if you could avoid that and answer this without the drama or bs or I know all stuff….. 

 

what the actual **** can this team do besides win every game and every cup that will make you actually happy?  Cuz dude, they ain’t gonna do it your way. 

Edited January 30, 20251 yr by Goalie

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

There’s gonna be a point in time where the team isn’t winning more than they are losing. Let’s hope you keep the same vibes then cuz this I know it all approach is insanity. Making it to the cup 5 straight years is better than being the laughing stock for the 15 prior years. The teams ppl in their 30s and 40s now grew up with sucked. What i wouldn’t have given to be 17 18 19 20 21 right now instead of having actual real life responsibilities. The teams I grew up with and cheered for all sucked. This team is pretty much all they do is go to cup finals. When I was younger cup finals were once in a blue moon and losing happened way more than winning.  Real question for you. I know you’ll get kinda pissy tho and names stuff but if you could avoid that and answer this without the drama or bs or I know all stuff….. 

 

what the actual **** can this team do besides win every game and every cup that will make you actually happy?  Cuz dude, they ain’t gonna do it your way. 

Man, this is too funny considering it's coming from someone here who for years thinks his **** don't stink. . 

Edited January 30, 20251 yr by SpeedFlex27

45 minutes ago, Goalie said:

There’s gonna be a point in time where the team isn’t winning more than they are losing. Let’s hope you keep the same vibes then cuz this I know it all approach is insanity. Making it to the cup 5 straight years is better than being the laughing stock for the 15 prior years. The teams ppl in their 30s and 40s now grew up with sucked. What i wouldn’t have given to be 17 18 19 20 21 right now instead of having actual real life responsibilities. The teams I grew up with and cheered for all sucked. This team is pretty much all they do is go to cup finals. When I was younger cup finals were once in a blue moon and losing happened way more than winning.  Real question for you. I know you’ll get kinda pissy tho and names stuff but if you could avoid that and answer this without the drama or bs or I know all stuff….. 

 

what the actual **** can this team do besides win every game and every cup that will make you actually happy?  Cuz dude, they ain’t gonna do it your way. 

U just don't get it

Never said they need to win every game...and getting their means diddly...unless you are happy with failure...I don't know many people in life who are except nuttuggers here

We lost 3 of the 5 plain and simple due to a coach who was the reason...big deal he got us there...if he can't finish the deal...the that's an issue...and we are losing more than we winning in cups...to comment on your teams of yonder comment

I've been around the game a long time..still am....seen a lot...involved in a lot...talk to many still involved...I coach..recruit..train...and mentor players so yeah I have a bit more "in the know" than Joe fan...

So in a nutshell what can this team do...tell it's HC to change some his ways and ideals...accept fault even tho his stubborn pride and ego won't allow it and adapt and evolve...or fall by the wayside...and if it can't happen...adios amigo...you like to blame the players for losses but the coach is awesome...5 straight appearances...if you were involved in high level football you would know the players Excell or fail 90 percent due to what they were coached to do and schemed for...u could have a team of all world players on field but if not prepped or coached properly...and then adjust to the individual game itself...u will lose...we rode guys in their prime and best at their position from 2019 till 2024...and when elite isn't elite no more...the success erodes...much like we allowed our depth to erode in a serious way clinging to the past...we choose to play injured guys...or past their usefulness guys...why...no depth...even tho we told otherwise...it's a matter of the coach doesn't believe it himself and trots out injured guys and less capable ones as we have no depth...or is he just a stubborn fool? What's your answer 

26 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Man, this is too funny considering it's coming from someone here who for years thinks his **** don't stink. 

Mr "he's cooked"