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Books, Books, Books

Here's your place to discuss your favorite books, great books, interesting books, upcoming books and books in between.  I don't consider myself well-read because I only read in bed and always fall asleep, but I have read a lot of interesting stuff in my life.

This book review has piqued my interest and thought I'd share via a new thread rather than burying it in another thread.

A terrifying, riveting portrait of the KKK in the 1920s

Timothy Egan’s ‘A Fever in the Heartland’ recounts how one man sparked the group’s resurgence in Indiana

Review by Richard Just
May 18, 2023 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
 
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Why are people drawn to demagogues? Why have millions of citizens of democracies chosen, from time to time over the centuries, to pledge fealty to leaders whose actions — political and personal — are obviously repugnant? What could possibly be the appeal?

 

These questions hover over Timothy Egan’s excellent new work of narrative nonfiction. “A Fever in the Heartland: The Ku Klux Klan’s Plot to Take Over America, and the Woman Who Stopped Them” is a highly readable chronicle of how the early-20th-century Klan resurrected itself following decades of dormancy; how it obtained millions of converts, not only in the South but throughout the country; and how, by the 1920s, it had infiltrated all levels of the U.S. government. But it is also a terrifying study of one particular Klan leader — a rapist and bigot who managed, in a matter of years, to acquire a vast popular following and to become the unelected boss of Indiana politics, all while formulating plans to propel himself to the White House.

 

D.C. Stephenson, born in Texas, was a drifter with an amoral entrepreneurial streak, and he happened to find himself in Evansville, Ind., in the early ’20s, a moment when the national Ku Klux Klan was rapidly expanding and seeking inroads in Northern states. “He was a young man on the make, and a quick learner,” Egan writes. “His new life in Evansville was a dash and a dodge, just a few steps ahead of the multiple lives he’d left behind.” Stephenson was hired by a Klan recruiter, and he “presented a plan to leadership: He would conquer all of Indiana for the Ku Klux Klan, not just a bridgehead in Evansville.”

He fulfilled this plan with shocking speed. The Klan’s agenda of white supremacy turned out to be all too popular among rank-and-file Hoosiers, who began joining the terrorist group en masse. Many institutions — especially Protestant churches, whose ministers the Klan bribed — were quickly co-opted. Within years, “the Klan owned the state, and Stephenson owned the Klan,” Egan writes. “Cops, judges, prosecutors, ministers, mayors, newspaper editors — they all answered to the Grand Dragon. … Most members of the incoming state legislature took orders from the hooded order, as did the majority of the congressional delegation.” And this hate-filled reign might have continued if not for the decision of Madge Oberholtzer, who was raped by Stephenson in 1925, to speak out. Her bravery set in motion a trial and conviction that ensured that Stephenson would spend decades in prison. The Klan was humiliated in the eyes of the public, and its power in Indiana began to wane.

Egan is a meticulous researcher and, perhaps especially, a skilled storyteller. His reconstruction of Stephenson’s deplorable arc — his lie-fueled rise, his vile charisma, his ultimate fall — is a master class in the tools of narrative nonfiction: high stakes, ample suspense and sweeping historical phenomena made vivid through the dramatic actions of individual villains and heroes.

But it was the question of “why” — why did so many people place their trust and admiration in this self-evidently horrible man and his fellow terrorists? — that I found myself returning to in the days after finishing this book.

The most fundamental answer, unfortunately, is that bigotry — xenophobia, antisemitism and particularly racism — has always managed to find a receptive audience in American life. Depending on the moment and the context, that audience can be large or small, but it invariably seems to exist in some form. “A vein of hatred,” Egan writes, “was always there for the tapping.”

Yet the Klan benefited from other factors as well. William Simmons, founder of the 20th-century Klan, said his group was aided by early attempts to discredit it, including congressional hearings. “It wasn’t until the newspapers began to attack the Klan that it really grew,” Simmons said. “And then Congress gave us the best advertising we ever got.”

As for Stephenson, Egan notes how adeptly he manipulated the public: “He discovered that if he said something often enough, no matter how untrue, people would believe it. Small lies were for the timid.” Egan also suggests that Stephenson’s abhorrent personal behavior may have actually, for a time, reinforced his popularity. The year before he raped Oberholtzer, he was briefly detained after attempting to rape a manicurist at a hotel and severely beating a bellhop. In the wake of this episode, Egan notes, many Klan members “chose selective amnesia,” and “some were even impressed. For here was a man liberated from shame, a man who not only boasted of being able to get away with any violation of human decency for his entire life, but had just proved it for all to see.”

More sensible citizens, meanwhile, may have been caught unaware. Stephenson and his allies demonstrated what demagogues throughout history have discovered: Odd-seeming movements can migrate from the fringes to the center in the blink of an eye. Egan quotes Robert Coughlan, from Kokomo, Ind., who wrote about the town’s embrace of the Klan. “It first appealed to the ignorant, the slightly unbalanced and the venal,” Coughlan explained, “but by the time the enlightened elements realized the danger it was already on top of them.”

A press that inadvertently makes itself complicit in the rise of demagogues by showering them with attention; habitual liars who successfully blur the distinction between truth and fabrication through endless repetition of falsehoods; leaders admired by loyal followers in part because of their moral transgressions; a movement that begins with the unbalanced and venal before conquering the mainstream: Maybe this all sounds depressingly familiar to you in 2023. Egan mostly resists making explicit parallels to the present, but they lurk just below the surface of this well-crafted and thoughtful book — a grim, necessary reminder that the difficult-to-fathom appeal of the most unappealing extremists never really goes away.

Richard Just is a former editor of The Washington Post Magazine, National Journal magazine and the New Republic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/05/18/fever-heartland-ku-klux-klan-timothy-egan-review/

 
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33 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I like books. Books are good. 

I mainly read books about history or people tho. I recently finished one about Jack The Ripper. 

 

Anyways, is this the place for this? Maybe... recently schools have started to talk about banning certain books? 

Yes or no? 

 

I say no because history is what it is and we can't hide from it and pretend certain great authors didn't exist because maybe they weren't up to today's standard of people 

I agree. A lot of books that are deemed not appropriate for schools really are due to the lessons they contain within them of a moral nature.

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27 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I like books. Books are good. 

I mainly read books about history or people tho. I recently finished one about Jack The Ripper. 

 

Anyways, is this the place for this? Maybe... recently schools have started to talk about banning certain books? 

Yes or no? 

 

I say no because history is what it is and we can't hide from it and pretend certain great authors didn't exist because maybe they weren't up to today's standard of people 

I think any discussion about books and reading is welcome here.  Banning books is a ridiculous notion given how easy it is to find books online.  When it comes to schools and public libraries, I do think there needs to be intelligent, thoughtful and expert guidance on what belongs and I think that for the most part it has worked out very well in Winnipeg particularly, thanks to the expert guidance.

Some red-cap wearing Floridian lady should not be allowed to single-handedly have books removed from schools and libraries across the state like we're seeing.  It's a complex issue similar to curriculum development that can be corrupted if the wrong people are in charge or responding to complaints.

The unfortunately titled Lies My Teacher Told Me delves into the mess caused in Texas jurisdictions by ideologues afraid of history.  I say "unfortunately titled", because for the most part, it's not the teachers' fault in any of his examples, but more on the curricula decision-makers.

It is a fantastic read at any rate.

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getting old.   I have to apologize and correct...

the three books I read by Galeano are "the memory of fire trilogy," NOT "open veins"

"The first book, Genesis, pays homage to the many origin stories of the tribes of the Americas, and paints a verdant portrait of life in the New World through the age of the conquistadors. The second book, Faces and Masks, spans the two centuries between the years 1700 and 1900, in which colonial powers plundered their newfound territories, ultimately giving way to a rising tide of dictators. And in the final installment, Century of the Wind, Galeano brings his story into the twentieth century, in which a fractured continent enters the modern age as popular revolts blaze from North to South.

This celebrated series is a landmark of contemporary Latin American writing, and a brilliant document of culture. "

see here.

https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Fire-Trilogy-Genesis-Century-ebook/dp/B00JK55998

 

sorry bout that.

 

 

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Just now, Mark F said:

getting old.   I have to apologize and correct...

 

All is forgiven.

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hard to find a well written, humorous book.... 

last year I read Don Quixote.... that thing is absolutely hilarious.  three stooges turned into a novel.

going to check dave steinberg's book.

thanks for all these interestingb books. 

oh yeah... sci fi

"Ubik" ... and "a scanner darkly"  Phillip k diiiiiick

both are  hilarious, confusing, sad,  and frightening.    

scanner.....I had friends that lived that life.

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9 minutes ago, Mark F said:

hard to find a well written, humorous book.... 

last year I read Don Quixote.... that thing is absolutely hilarious.  three stooges turned into a novel.

going to check dave steinberg's book.

thanks for all these interestingb books. 

oh yeah... sci fi

"Ubik" ... and "a scanner darkly"  Phillip k diiiiiick

both are  hilarious, confusing, sad,  and frightening.

Al Franken's political commentary books are very, very entertaining.  Forrest Gump may be the funniest novel I've ever read.

I didn't find Lamb as hilarious as my wife did, but it definitely has its moments.

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The birth of Jesus has been well chronicled, as have his glorious teachings, acts, and divine sacrifice after his thirtieth birthday. But no one knows about the early life of the Son of God, the missing years -- except Biff, the Messiah's best bud, who has been resurrected to tell the story in the divinely hilarious yet heartfelt work "reminiscent of Vonnegut and Douglas Adams" (Philadelphia Inquirer).

Verily, the story Biff has to tell is a miraculous one, filled with remarkable journeys, magic, healings, kung fu, corpse reanimations, demons, and hot babes. Even the considerable wiles and devotion of the Savior's pal may not be enough to divert Joshua from his tragic destiny. But there's no one who loves Josh more -- except maybe "Maggie," Mary of Magdala -- and Biff isn't about to let his extraordinary pal suffer and ascend without a fight.

 

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7 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

The birth of Jesus has been well chronicled

reserved it at library. thanks!  been listening to hitchhikers guide by adams at night. silly/entertaining

more new parents should consider "biff", male or female. standout name.

there was a singer from N Manitoba named biff., biff naked.

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4 hours ago, Wilbur said:

I agree. A lot of books that are deemed not appropriate for schools really are due to the lessons they contain within them of a moral nature.

Like the Bible?

1 minute ago, Tracker said:

Like the Bible?

Not really referencing the Bible friend; a lot of schools do not allow that kind of thing, especially here in the Southern US due to how much of a heated thing it is and not wanting to push religion on to kids if you will. I'm a Christian myself, not a hardcore one by any means mind, but I can see why people would want their kids to choose their own religious affiliation if you will rather than have it be forced upon them.

The main books I am talking about are books like Catch-22 and essentially anything by Vonnegut lol, etc. Children need to understand about other places, perspectives, etc.

The Sisters brothers is very entertaining. some violence. I agree with this review:

 

"Hermann Kermit Warm is going to die. The enigmatic and powerful man known only as the Commodore has ordered it, and his henchmen, Eli and Charlie Sisters, will make sure of it. Though Eli doesn't share his brother's appetite for whiskey and killing, he's never known anything else. But their prey isn't an easy mark, and on the road from Oregon City to Warm's gold-mining claim outside Sacramento, Eli begins to question what he does for a living - and whom he does it for.

With The Sisters Brothers, Patrick deWitt pays homage to the classic Western, transforming it into an unforgettable comic tour de force. Filled with a remarkable cast of characters - losers, cheaters, and ne'er-do-wells from all stripes of life - and told by a complex and compelling narrator, it is a violent, lustful odyssey through the underworld of the 1850s frontier that beautifully captures the humor, melancholy, and grit of the Old West, and two brothers bound by blood, violence, and love."

The movie is not good.

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

Any of Alf Silver's books - especially A Place Out of Time.

have you been to the cemetary at the church in east selkirk? probably.

 

I think it is a Metis church. not sure.

 

there is a grave there of someone born in the 1790's.

lot of history around selkirk Mb.

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Gonna start James Clavell's 'Shogun' series here shortly. Read them a long time ago, but don't remember all that much.

2 hours ago, Mark F said:

have you been to the cemetary at the church in east selkirk? probably.

 

I think it is a Metis church. not sure.

 

there is a grave there of someone born in the 1790's.

lot of history around selkirk Mb.

St. Peter's Church - it was built when St. Peter's Reserve was still located there

 

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3 hours ago, Mark F said:

The Sisters brothers is very entertaining. some violence. I agree with this review:

.....

The movie is not good.

I quite liked the movie, but haven't yet read the book.  A friend who read the book first also didn't like the movie.

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3 hours ago, Mark F said:

The Sisters brothers is very entertaining. some violence. I agree with this review:

 

"Hermann Kermit Warm is going to die. The enigmatic and powerful man known only as the Commodore has ordered it, and his henchmen, Eli and Charlie Sisters, will make sure of it. Though Eli doesn't share his brother's appetite for whiskey and killing, he's never known anything else. But their prey isn't an easy mark, and on the road from Oregon City to Warm's gold-mining claim outside Sacramento, Eli begins to question what he does for a living - and whom he does it for.

With The Sisters Brothers, Patrick deWitt pays homage to the classic Western, transforming it into an unforgettable comic tour de force. Filled with a remarkable cast of characters - losers, cheaters, and ne'er-do-wells from all stripes of life - and told by a complex and compelling narrator, it is a violent, lustful odyssey through the underworld of the 1850s frontier that beautifully captures the humor, melancholy, and grit of the Old West, and two brothers bound by blood, violence, and love."

The movie is not good.

have you been to the cemetary at the church in east selkirk? probably.

 

I think it is a Metis church. not sure.

 

there is a grave there of someone born in the 1790's.

lot of history around selkirk Mb.

I actually had to read that book when I took the Library Tech course at RRC, I can't remember the class oh wait Reader's Advisory

2 hours ago, Wilbur said:

Gonna start James Clavell's 'Shogun' series here shortly. Read them a long time ago, but don't remember all that much.

His Asian Saga is some phenomenal reading. I haven't read Whirlwind but the rest are all amazing books (Shogun and Gaijin are two favourites).

56 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

quite liked the movie,

 

I should say, the beginning with the horse burning, was too  much for me, so I bshould not have an opinion on the movie.

vut John C. Reilly  is top notch. 

The book is very funny, entertaining. I read a second book by the same author.... not so good.

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  • 4 weeks later...

started "inconvenient Indian"  but did not enjoy it enough to read it. not sure why. maybe a bit too much of an autobiographical theme.

 

found a writer by chance.... started one book, like it a lot. ( changed my mind see below)

 

Olga Tokarczuk. Polish, Nobel prize. book

 

"drive your plow over the bones of the dead"  

 

"at night I observe Venus, closely following the transitions of this beautiful damsel. I prefer her as the evening star, when sne appears as if out of nowhere, as if by magic, and goes down behind the sun. a spark of eternal light. it is at dusk that the most interesting things occur, for that is when simple differences fade away. I could live in everlasting dusk"

 

some beautiful descriptions of winter, snow, wind, light, cold, that Prairie dwellers all understand. will see.

later.

upon further review, this is a depressing book. good writer, too grim for me.

 

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  • 1 month later...

very funny. really really funny.

anthony burgess 

"Inside Mr Enderby."

consistent guffaws  throughout, and excellent writing.

biography of a poet.

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  • 3 weeks later...

put a hold on this at library.

not sure I can make it through the thing, since it is probably filled with stories of  trampling small people, and failure to hold the highest level criminals to account.

Curious about use of blackmail, which I suspect is a very important tool in the playbook of the corruptors.

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/david-talbot/the-devils-chessboard/

maybe relevant in the trump age. the system has been corrupt for ever, but he has removed the veil, and must be punished to maintain credibilty.

I think that There is a "deep state" but it's not the one imagined by the right wing.

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I'm in the middle of a few things right now..... reading an old CFL book from about '99 that sort of details Grey Cup rivalries between various teams (eg A chapter on Ticats vs Bombers over the years), also reading the newest updated version of Kives' "Daytrippers Guide To Manitoba" which is one of my favourite things to re-read each year. Also in and out of Kives' "Stuck In The Middle 2: Dissenting Views of Manitoba", which has been interesting. 

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Apparently, you can't judge a book by it's cover - especially if the cover quotes from reviews:

 

Two critics who reviewed a book by Jordan Peterson have said their articles were quoted on its cover in a misleading way.

Quotes from reviews published in the Times and the New Statesman were used on the cover of the paperback edition of Peterson's Beyond Order.

The book cover quoted a line from the Times saying the book was "a philosophy of the meaning of life".

But it didn't mention that the review described that philosophy as "bonkers".

 

Peterson and his publishers Penguin have not yet responded to the BBC's request for comment.

The Canadian psychology professor has gained a loyal following partly due to his opinions on so-called "culture war" issues such as white privilege, gender-neutral pronouns and gender roles.

 

But the 61-year-old is a controversial figure who is derided by others for his views.

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life, which was published in paperback last May, quoted Johanna Thomas-Corr's review in the New Statesman on its cover.

She said the quote that was selected to market the book was a "gross misrepresentation" of her 2,500-word review.

Thomas-Corr, who is also literary editor of the Sunday Times, posted on X (formerly Twitter): "I don't have it in me to write some causally witty thing about how horrifying this is." She added that her quote "should be removed".

Thomas-Corr's review appeared in the New Statesman, a left-leaning current affairs magazine, in March 2021, when the original hardback edition of the book was published.

Her article referred to what she called the "inadvertent comedy" of the book, and said Peterson spent several pages "ranting".

 

Her lengthy review also said: "His unwillingness to address detail or confront counter-arguments feels cowardly.

"He repeatedly identifies masculinity with order and femininity with chaos and makes it clear which side he feels we should favour."

But Thomas-Corr's review did feature some praise, and it was these passages that were quoted on the paperback's cover.

One line quoted Thomas-Corr saying it was "genuinely enlightening and often poignant".

Another said: "Here is a father figure who takes his audience seriously. And here is a grander narrative about truth, being, order and chaos that stretches back to the dawn of human consciousness."

However, Marriot has also also suggested his review had been quoted selectively to "disguise" the fact it was largely negative.

In a since-deleted post, Marriott jokingly praised the "incredible work from Jordan Peterson's publisher", adding: "My review of this mad book was probably the most negative thing I have ever written."

The full-length review described Peterson's prose as "repetitious, unvariegated, rhythmless, opaque and possessed of a suffocating sense of its own importance".

Only in a paragraph praising one particular chapter did Marriott say the text was the best prose Peterson had written.

Marriott's full review otherwise said the book "nails together shower thoughts, random prejudices and genuine insights into a decidedly rickety structure", and repeatedly used the word "bonkers" to describe Peterson's philosophy.

At the time of writing, Marriott's review still features on Penguin's online page for the book.

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life was a follow-up to Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos.

Another review by Suzanne Moore in the Telegraph said Peterson's book featured "hokey wisdom combined with good advice".

The book jacket cut out the word "hokey" so the quote read only: "Wisdom combined with good advice."

However, Moore gave a positive review to the book overall, awarding it four stars.

Although it is normal for publishers to use techniques to increase sales, the complaints could raise questions in the publishing industry about selective quoting.

3 hours ago, Noeller said:

Daytrippers Guide To Manitoba"

(other than the money) Manitobans should be thankful for the fact that it is lowly regarded as a tourist destination.

other places, that are endlessly promoted, like Vancouver island, are crawling with people. if you cant climb a mountain, tough to find some peace and quiet.

Manitoba is a gem. 

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