Tracker Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 When a Flat Earther Refused to Concede and All Hell Broke Loose: The forgotten saga of Zion, Illinois, is evidence that America’s political situation could still be a whole lot stupider. Nearly two months after the election, President Donald Trump still has not conceded his loss, even as members of his own party dismiss his voter fraud conspiracy theories. “You’re headed into the cliffs that guard the flat Earth at that time, brother,” Republican Rep. Denver Riggleman recently told Yahoo News, likening Trump’s claims to those of the flat-Earth movement. That is exactly where Trump is headed. While no modern president has refused to concede an election, his tactics are not without precedent in American politics. Along with an 1873 Texas governor who barricaded himself in office after losing re-election, Trump enjoys some remarkably fringe company—specifically, people who believe Earth is not an oblate spheroid, but a flat disc. In 1909, a notorious flat Earth preacher led a ballot-box putsch to maintain his stranglehold over an Illinois town. With declarations of “war,” two competing governments that claimed to be legitimate, and an armed siege between the two factions’ police chiefs at the county jail, the forgotten saga of Zion, Illinois, is evidence that America’s political situation could still be a whole lot stupider. (This is where Trump says" Hold my beer") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/531823-gop-lawmakers-sue-pence-in-bid-to-overturn-biden-win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/531823-gop-lawmakers-sue-pence-in-bid-to-overturn-biden-win Rep. Louie Gohmert, Pack of GOPers Sue Mike Pence in Bid to Force VP to Pick Trump Electors on Jan. 6 REUTERS A group of Republicans including Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas and Kelli Ward of Arizona is suing Vice President Mike Pence in a desperate, last-ditch attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. The Electoral College is scheduled to certify the win on Jan. 6, a procedural task overseen by the sitting vice president—in this case, Pence, who has not yet publicly acknowledged the fact that Trump lost his bid for a second term. In the lawsuit, details of which reporter John Kruzel of The Hill posted on Twitter, Gohmert, Ward, and 10 other plaintiffs such as Students for Trump COO Tyler Bowyer, Arizona Republican Party Executive Director Greg Safsten, and Maricopa County Republicans Second Vice Chair Nancy Cottle, are asking federal Judge Jeremy Kernodle, a Trump appointee, to declare Pence legally authorized to pick pro-Trump electors on Jan. 6. Since Trump lost his November bid for a second term in the White House, certain members of the GOP have continued to stoke his delusion of having won by floating unlikely—and thus far, entirely unsuccessful—court challenges to President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. Meanwhile, other Republicans have urged the president to gracefully accept defeat. On Monday, Rep. Denver Riggleman (R-VA) retweeted news of the lawsuit against Pence with an exasperated, “This is NUTS.” Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 When Trump is gone you will hear some unbelievable stories from all the enablers of Trump, they will go on any media outlet to cry their crocodile tears trying to save face, they all need to be investigated and let the courts decide their fates Wanna-B-Fanboy and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Wanna-B-Fanboy, Mr Dee and blue_gold_84 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Squeeze every penny out of the rubes Tracker, Mark F and blue_gold_84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 They all knew, they all flip and supported every word and every action he did, now the people of America need to find out why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Everyone knows why he wears ill fitting over size suits Mark F, blue_gold_84 and Wanna-B-Fanboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Boy did she sell het soul for 15 Wanna-B-Fanboy and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, bustamente said: Squeeze every penny out of the rubes The sad thing is that his thralls will believe this without question and fight to the death defending it. Who needs Soma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr Dee said: "Future unclear"? Yeah, nothing unclear about that bill... that bill is going to die on the floor of the senate at the feet of McConnell. Tracker and bustamente 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Things not being done Jan 6th: Unfortunately for Donnie’s Proud Boys, the hotel they usually stay in while in Washington has cancelled all reservations Jan 4, 5, 6th. Hotel Harrington will also close their bar and restaurant for the same period. They appear to be wah-wahing all over on a site called “the Donald”. Fringe chat forums and other online posts indicate far-right demonstrators are “workshopping ways to smuggle guns” into the District of Columbia, the newspaper reported. Carrying weapons without a permit is prohibited in the District of Columbia, and guns are banned at all protests. Trump is tweeting “Be there, will be wild” No word on whether the Boys will be seeking rooms at The Trump International where prices start at $3600 US per night. https://apple.news/AuUuHgfzvS7Cy2cfDSLVe6Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Mr Dee said: Things not being done Jan 6th: Unfortunately for Donnie’s Proud Boys, the hotel they usually stay in while in Washington has cancelled all reservations Jan 4, 5, 6th. Hotel Harrington will also close their bar and restaurant for the same period. They appear to be wah-wahing all over on a site called “the Donald”. Fringe chat forums and other online posts indicate far-right demonstrators are “workshopping ways to smuggle guns” into the District of Columbia, the newspaper reported. Carrying weapons without a permit is prohibited in the District of Columbia, and guns are banned at all protests. Trump is tweeting “Be there, will be wild” No word on whether the Boys will be seeking rooms at The Trump International where prices start at $3600 US per night. https://apple.news/AuUuHgfzvS7Cy2cfDSLVe6Q It seems very possible that Trump is setting the stage for riots in DC when Pence fulfills his constitutional duty (which is both ceremonial and non-optional) and officially declares Biden the winner. From credible reports, Trump is toying with the idea that if/when the riots break out, he will use the excuse to follow Flynn's direction to declare martial law, have the army or para-military impound the voting machines and order another election under military supervision. THIS is the nuclear option which would be legally questionable at best. If you think this improbable, remember how Trump tried to order paratroopers to clear the street so he could have his pathetic photo-op holding a bible which he never read, upside down in front of a church he never visited. Apparently the commanding officer refused the order, so Trump's toadies ordered in paramilitary border and customs staff who had no training at all in this sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Pro-Trump Missouri senator announces he will contest Biden’s certification Acknowledging Joe Biden as president-elect, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has been urging Senate Republicans not to voice objections when a joint session of Congress meets on January 6 to certify the Electoral College results. But Sen. Josh Hawley, a far-right Trump loyalist, has announced that he will contest the certification. With Biden's inauguration only three weeks away, President Donald Trump continues to make debunked claims that he was the victim of widespread voter fraud. The Electoral College certified the election results when it met on December 14, but Hawley, in his statement, said, "At the very least, Congress should investigate allegations of voter fraud and adopt measures to secure the integrity of our elections. But Congress has so far failed to act." Pro-Trump Missouri senator announces he will contest Biden’s certification - Alternet.org................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Wow, nice to see a positive political ad espousing the benefits of voting for someone and what they will bring to the table instead of **** flinging. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Apparently Ted Cruz has been soliciting donations to "fight for free and fair elections in Georgia" but is funneling all the money into his own election coffers in preparation for the next election. The grift goes on and on.... Mark F and bustamente 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tracker said: Apparently Ted Cruz has been soliciting donations to "fight for free and fair elections in Georgia" but is funneling all the money into his own election coffers in preparation for the next election. The grift goes on and on.... With such a vast pool of suckers to draw on..........why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Ted Cruz probably wants to run for President again. democrats need to get some big things done, fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 There was a time when campaigning with a Klansman would forfeit your run for public office... but I don't know about that, given the recent history. But given another era, this would have been a serious mic drop moment. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Trump’s fight to overthrow election now falls to the guy who invented the CueCat Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Trump’s fight to overthrow election now falls to the guy who invented the CueCat Put it this way- Trump's chances of legally overturning the election are no worse than when he started all this crap. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 this is kind of mind blowing: if the GOP had five more seats- they would perform a coup. I have no doubt that they would... the GOP needs to be put to pasture. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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do or die Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 2020-12-30 at 7:21 PM, Mark F said: Ted Cruz probably wants to run for President again. democrats need to get some big things done, fast. Cruz wants to wear the red hats and be the lead dog for the fundamentalists......so does Pence. But Pence is going to take a big hit on the 6th............ Mark F and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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