Do we go 8-1 or 7-3-1?

I would think that Scheif, Wheeler and Little are locks to be protected and we have to protect Enstrom and Buff because of their NMCs.

Opinions will change as the year goes on and some players play better/worse and some might be traded but right now they would go 8-1.

Wheeler

Scheif

Little

Trouba

Enstrom

Buff

Myers

Helle for a goalie but who is the 8th player we shold protect?

MP? Lowry? Armia? Dano? Copp?

I say send them a draft pick so they take Copp. A 3rd rounder or so.

2 hours ago, JCon said:

Enstrom is far less valuable now to VGK.

I dont think anything changes. If VGK say "hey Toby we want to send you to Pittsburgh at the trade deadline" I bet that NMC just went buh-bye.

Sure the NMC exists but you can still ask.

 

1 hour ago, JCon said:

I just looked it up, for curiosity sake.

1.63 in 2016/17

1.44 in 2015/16

I was citing TSN's Scott Cullen for that number. Actually he said 1.94/60 over the past 4 seasons, so both of our numbers may be right. But Atomic's point about sample size is fair game. Not trying to personally justify it, just trying to offer a possible rationale. I hope he is the one taken over Enstrom (he is more replaceable than a left shot defenceman).

 

Edited June 20, 20178 yr by TrueBlue4ever

 

Was really hoping Chevy was in on a deal with Vegas for a goalie or a young D

On 1290 yesterday they said if Toby goes to Vegas his nmc is nullified. If he stays in Winnipeg then it stays in place.

 

12 minutes ago, Brandon said:

On 1290 yesterday they said if Toby goes to Vegas his nmc is nullified. If he stays in Winnipeg then it stays in place.

 

They are wrong. It goes where ever he goes. 1290 say lots of stupid things that arent true. A quick check of the rules will show you it follows him. 

Edited June 21, 20178 yr by Goalie

5 minutes ago, Goalie said:

They are wrong. It goes where ever he goes. 1290 say lots of stupid things that arent true. A quick check of the rules will show you it follows him. 

I don't think it was "1290" saying it. I think it was a hockey person who called in. 

But there is certainly enough confusion.  Even crazier for Toby to waive if he'd be subject to wherever Vegas wants to send him.  

 

Lets just... 

If you already have a nmc and u waive to be traded... Nmc follows you. If you are like tyler myers where u have a long contract but the nmc doesnt kick in until a certain age and u are traded b4.. The team getting you has the option to not pick up the nmc. Like the jets did. 

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I don't think it was "1290" saying it. I think it was a hockey person who called in. 

But there is certainly enough confusion.  Even crazier for Toby to waive if he'd be subject to wherever Vegas wants to send him.  

His NMC follows him regardless but it really makes no sense to pick him cuz he could easily say i only want to play in Winnipeg. He also made it clear he doesn't want to go to Vegas. They wont pick him. Cuz no sane person starting a franchise would pick a guy who doesn't want to be there. The media are saying they just might because bottom line they dont follow the jets and in terms of headlines and click bait.. Toby enstrom is more known than Marko Dano.

Edited June 21, 20178 yr by Goalie

It doesn't follow you regardless. The receiving team has to agree to accept it (under normal circumstances). 

It wasn't Hustler who said it....  It was definitely a guest on the show.

Edited June 21, 20178 yr by Brandon

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

It doesn't follow you regardless. The receiving team has to agree to accept it (under normal circumstances). 

Yes it does. He goes to vegas. If vegas wants to trade him they have to ask him to waive it again. He could easily say no. If he was 25 or 26... Vegas could not pick it up but because enstrom is 32... His NMC follows him... Like it did with Phaneuf actually when he was traded to Ottawa from Toronto. 

Edited June 21, 20178 yr by Goalie

15 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Yes it does. He goes to vegas. If vegas wants to trade him they have to ask him to waive it again. He could easily say no. If he was 25 or 26... Vegas could not pick it up but because enstrom is 32... His NMC follows him... Like it did with Phaneuf actually when he was traded to Ottawa from Toronto. 

Can you sight a source?  I'm not saying your wrong but there has been other information to indicate that the receiving team must agree. The reason we don't hear about that is because if they don't agree the player being asked to waive would decline. 

Obviously it may be different under expansion but I believe you're incorrect about the routine circumstances of NWC's. 

The Bobfather sure has better middle of the night tweets than POTUS. 

 

14 hours ago, Floyd said:

Was really hoping Chevy was in on a deal with Vegas for a goalie or a young D

Who says he's not?

Okay, heres the tweet storm:

 

 

So we only get part of the picture tonight.

30 minutes ago, Rich said:

 

So we only get part of the picture tonight.

I wonder if the players get to know and if so, how quick it leaks.  Imagine being a player revealed as selected by Vegas...and then tomorrow morning you're told youve been traded somewhere else.

Assuming tonight goes off without a hitch, kudos the the NHL.  This is all very exciting.  The fact there are 8-12 trades completed and we dont know what they are...all to be announced tonight.  AND more to be announced tomorrow and no doubt between Thurs and the draft, even more?  Very exciting!

This one I'm not sure I get from Vegas' side. They must think they can do better than Dumba & Scandella on D.

 

1 minute ago, Jimmy Pop said:

This one I'm not sure I get from Vegas' side. They must think they can do better than Dumba & Scandella on D.

 

Dumba, Scandella, Vantanen, Manson. Ain't got time for that.

McPhee said they have taken a lot of D-men and will be making other deals.  Which makes me think Toby...

If Chevy was busting the phones, we would have heard it by now...

2 minutes ago, Floyd said:

If Chevy was busting the phones, we would have heard it by now...

The Jets are secretive at the best of times, let alone when the NHL has demanded MORE secrecy and other than speculation and innuendo, everyone is maintaining radio silence.  Which is pretty cool actually!

10 minutes ago, Floyd said:

If Chevy was busting the phones, we would have heard it by now...