Goalie Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: I just find it amazing the Tea Party went from a fringe group in the Republican Party to basically running it in 8 years. Agreed. It's weird they are even still called Republican when they are certainly not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Jpan85 said: I just find it amazing the Tea Party went from a fringe group in the Republican Party to basically running it in 8 years. And the Qanon nuts make the Tea Party look sane by comparison. Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Did Trump violate state and federal laws by trying to bully Georgia officials into changing election results? The Washington Post has obtained a copy of a recording in which President Donald Trump, on January 2, can be heard trying to bully and coerce Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger into overturning his defeat in the Peach State. Raffensperger, however, wouldn't budge: the conservative Republican, during the phone conversation, maintained that President-elect Joe Biden won Georgia fair and square. Conservative opinion writer Jennifer Rubin examines the legal ramifications of Trump's actions in her Post column and outlines some ways in which Trump might have committed "extortion" and other "criminal" acts on January 2. Rubin explains, "In the call, Trump asked Raffensperger to change the certified vote that was subject to multiple recounts: 'So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.' In fact, he threatened him." The Never Trump columnist adds that Trump was "sounding like a mobster as he often does" during the conversation and went on to tell Raffensperger, "You have a big election coming up, and because of what you've done to the president — you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam.'" Rubin stresses that "pressuring a campaign official to change the vote tally is a federal offense," and she notes what former Justice Department Inspector General Michael R. Bromwich had to say on the subject on Twitter. Rubin also notes that "threatening Raffensperger with criminal consequences is also arguably extortion" and quotes Title 18, Section 875 of the U.S. Code, which says, "Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both." Rubin adds that "alternatively," Raffensperger "might investigate and bring applicable charges under state law" — which "would have one clear advantage: Trump cannot receive a federal pardon for state crimes." "There must be a response to a president who exploits his office for the purpose of overthrowing an election," Rubin stresses. "The evidence is on tape. The next attorney general should move forward, if for no other reason, to deter further attempts at such reprehensible conduct. I would suggest impeachment as well, which could include a ban on holding office in the future, but we know already Republicans will defend anything Trump does." Did Trump violate state and federal laws by trying to bully Georgia officials into changing election results? - Alternet.org bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Oh Blanche you might need your fainting couch if the new Democratic AG decides investigations are in order Wanna-B-Fanboy and blue_gold_84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, bustamente said: Oh Blanche you might need your fainting couch if the new Democratic AG decides investigations are in order Apparently Raffensperger ducked 18 calls from Trump before accepting (and recording) the call. I would imagine that Trump's fury knows no bounds and I would not want to be within a couple hundred meters of him these days. However, if this is the stupidest thing you think he will do, you are wrong. I imagine that Marlon Perkins is hovering nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tracker said: Marlon Perkins i marlon perkins reference. excellent! rip marlon. Edited January 4, 2021 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Raffensperger was wise to record the call. Otherwise he would be seeing a lot of headlines something like this: Under pressure from Real President Trump, Raffensperger admits total fraud!! Although, some outlets in Trumpland media will probably still do it anyways........... Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 17 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: "The Presidential Medal of Freedom is an award ... to recognize people who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors." No mention of sucking up, syncophantic behaviour, treason or cows... this one comes pre tarnished. Wanna-B-Fanboy, bustamente and Tracker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Some serious shade from Tapper... bustamente, Tracker, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Some serious shade from Tapper... Jason Miller, now there is a POS deadbeat a-hole adulterer, Trumps kind of guy Tracker, Wanna-B-Fanboy and blue_gold_84 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, Mark F said: this one comes pre tarnished. I'll just have to send in the 39.99 in four easy payments to get mine. May pass on the life-size Trump cutout, though..... Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, do or die said: I'll just have to send in the 39.99 in four easy payments to get mine. May pass on the life-size Trump cutout, though..... ..............................but that would be the best time to wear your shirt Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) senate democratic whip **** Durbin calls for criminal investigation. this is different than aoc saying it. trump and friends may have gone too far. lol.... censored his first name 🤣 Edited January 4, 2021 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 After all my hard work, didn't even get a T-shirt from Soros Mark F and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mark F said: senate democratic whip **** Durbin calls for criminal investigation. this is different than aoc saying it. trump and friends may have gone too far. lol.... censored his first name 🤣 It pisses me off that this **** can go on and there is no accountability for these grotesque acts- I mean, they are talking about a ******* coup here. Yet, no one from the GOP is saying boo... Marthat McSally and here "Not very helpful call" comment is ****. So a criminal investigation goes on- it will be a federal one- pardoned and done. I say leave it all alone from a federal stance and do a state criminal investigation so he doesn't get away with the double jeopardy law. Mark F, bustamente and Tracker 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Reminder: Washington, DC has very strict permit laws for guns.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Reminder: Washington, DC has very strict permit laws for guns.. "Unless they are white and belligerent" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Trump sooner than later will figure it out that he has no chance to stay in power, some outlets are reporting that he is getting ready to pardon himself and flee and become a ex president in exile, staying in the States guarantee's that he will be fighting investigations for the rest of his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Chief Contee says the D.C. National Guard will be on hand to partner with police in order to maintain security. They'll be there starting tomorrow and through Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 There might be a few FBI agents around.. blue_gold_84 and Tracker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, Tracker said: "Unless they are white and belligerent" Even the Koup Kucks Klan won't be exempt. DC has very strict firearms laws, especially regarding license to carry (concealed) and open carry, the latter being outright prohibited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Odd timing wouldn’t you say? Was he being asked to do something he didn’t want to? (He was appointed by Trump) blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: There might be a few FBI agents around.. All it takes is one zealot with an automatic weapon or explosives and willing to become a martyr. If you think this is unlikely, look at all the adulation the Wisconsin shooter got. bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yup, as soon as the GOP covered for his election interference via Ukraine, everyone knew he would continue and ratchet it up a notch or two each time. I all for impeaching his ass again- give the senate another chance to remove his assets before he attacks another country or launches nukes. If they fail to remove- the GOP can wear what ever the **** he gets up to next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Can't say I'm surprised but this one claims she will be packing a gun when see arrives at the Capitol to serve as a Congresswoman Edited January 4, 2021 by bustamente Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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