Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

1 hour ago, Jpan85 said:

I just find it amazing the Tea Party went from a fringe group in the Republican Party to basically running it in 8 years.

And the Qanon nuts make the Tea Party look sane by comparison. Scary.

Did Trump violate state and federal laws by trying to bully Georgia officials into changing election results?

   
The Washington Post has obtained a copy of a recording in which President Donald Trump, on January 2, can be heard trying to bully and coerce Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger into overturning his defeat in the Peach State. Raffensperger, however, wouldn't budge: the conservative Republican, during the phone conversation, maintained that President-elect Joe Biden won Georgia fair and square. Conservative opinion writer Jennifer Rubin examines the legal ramifications of Trump's actions in her Post column and outlines some ways in which Trump might have committed "extortion" and other "criminal" acts on January 2.

Rubin explains, "In the call, Trump asked Raffensperger to change the certified vote that was subject to multiple recounts: 'So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.' In fact, he threatened him."

The Never Trump columnist adds that Trump was "sounding like a mobster as he often does" during the conversation and went on to tell Raffensperger, "You have a big election coming up, and because of what you've done to the president — you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam.'"

Rubin stresses that "pressuring a campaign official to change the vote tally is a federal offense," and she notes what former Justice Department Inspector General Michael R. Bromwich had to say on the subject on Twitter.

Rubin also notes that "threatening Raffensperger with criminal consequences is also arguably extortion" and quotes Title 18, Section 875 of the U.S. Code, which says, "Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Rubin adds that "alternatively," Raffensperger "might investigate and bring applicable charges under state law" — which "would have one clear advantage: Trump cannot receive a federal pardon for state crimes."

"There must be a response to a president who exploits his office for the purpose of overthrowing an election," Rubin stresses. "The evidence is on tape. The next attorney general should move forward, if for no other reason, to deter further attempts at such reprehensible conduct. I would suggest impeachment as well, which could include a ban on holding office in the future, but we know already Republicans will defend anything Trump does."

Did Trump violate state and federal laws by trying to bully Georgia officials into changing election results? - Alternet.org

Oh Blanche you might need your fainting couch if the new Democratic AG decides investigations are in order

 

1 minute ago, bustamente said:

Oh Blanche you might need your fainting couch if the new Democratic AG decides investigations are in order

 

Apparently Raffensperger ducked 18 calls from Trump before accepting (and recording) the call. I would imagine that Trump's fury knows no bounds and I would not want to be within a couple hundred meters of him these days. However, if this is the stupidest thing you think he will do, you are wrong. I imagine that Marlon Perkins is hovering nearby.

13 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Marlon Perkins i

marlon perkins  reference. excellent!

rip marlon.

 

Edited January 4, 20215 yr by Mark F

Raffensperger was wise to record the call.  Otherwise he would be seeing a lot of headlines something like this:

Under pressure from Real President Trump, Raffensperger admits total fraud!!

Although, some outlets in Trumpland media will probably still do it anyways...........

 

17 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

"The Presidential Medal of Freedom is an award ... to recognize people who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors."

No mention of sucking up, syncophantic behaviour, treason or cows... 

 

this one comes pre tarnished.

Some serious shade from Tapper... 

 

7 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Some serious shade from Tapper... 

 

Jason Miller, now there is a POS deadbeat a-hole adulterer, Trumps kind of guy 

33 minutes ago, Mark F said:

this one comes pre tarnished.

I'll just  have to send in the 39.99 in four easy payments to get mine.   May pass on the life-size Trump cutout, though.....

17 minutes ago, do or die said:

I'll just  have to send in the 39.99 in four easy payments to get mine.   May pass on the life-size Trump cutout, though.....

..............................but that would be the best time to wear your shirt

senate democratic whip **** Durbin calls for criminal investigation.

this is different than aoc saying it.

 

trump and friends may have gone too far.

 

lol.... censored his first name 🤣

Edited January 4, 20215 yr by Mark F

After all my hard work, didn't even get a T-shirt from Soros

 

2 minutes ago, Mark F said:

senate democratic whip **** Durbin calls for criminal investigation.

this is different than aoc saying it.

 

trump and friends may have gone too far.

 

lol.... censored his first name 🤣

It pisses me off that this **** can go on and there is no accountability for these grotesque acts- I mean, they are talking about a ******* coup here. Yet, no one from the GOP is saying boo... Marthat McSally and here "Not very helpful call" comment is ****. 

So a criminal investigation goes on- it will be a federal one- pardoned and done. 

 

I say leave it all alone from a federal stance and do a state criminal investigation so he doesn't get away with the double jeopardy law.

Reminder: Washington, DC has very strict permit laws for guns..

 

4 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

Reminder: Washington, DC has very strict permit laws for guns..

 

"Unless they are white and belligerent" 

Trump sooner than later will figure it out that he has no chance to stay in power, some outlets are reporting that he is getting ready to pardon himself and flee and become a ex president in exile, staying in the States guarantee's that he will be fighting investigations for the rest of his life

Chief Contee says the D.C. National Guard will be on hand to partner with police in order to maintain security. They'll be there starting tomorrow and through Wednesday

 

There might be a few FBI agents around..

 

20 minutes ago, Tracker said:

"Unless they are white and belligerent" 

Even the Koup Kucks Klan won't be exempt. DC has very strict firearms laws, especially regarding license to carry (concealed) and open carry, the latter being outright prohibited.

Odd timing wouldn’t you say?

Was he being asked to do something he didn’t want to? (He was appointed by Trump)

 

17 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

There might be a few FBI agents around..

 

All it takes is one zealot with an automatic weapon or explosives and willing to become a martyr. If you think this is unlikely, look at all the adulation the Wisconsin shooter got.

Yup, as soon as the GOP covered for his election interference via Ukraine, everyone knew he would continue and ratchet it up a notch or two each time. 

 

I all for impeaching his ass again- give the senate another chance to remove his assets before he attacks another country or launches nukes. If they fail to remove- the GOP can wear what ever the **** he gets up to next.

Can't say I'm surprised but this one claims she will be packing a gun when see arrives at the Capitol to serve as a Congresswoman

Edited January 4, 20215 yr by bustamente

This guy is another reason why Americans are in big trouble another inept boob who is also a liar