Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

3 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Fact check: A list of 28 ways Trump and his team have been dishonest about the coronavirus

By Daniel Dale and Tara Subramaniam, CNN

Updated 2:38 PM ET, Wed March 11, 2020

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has been comprehensively misinforming the public about the coronavirus.

Trump has littered his public remarks on the life-and-death subject with false, misleading and dubious claims. And he has been joined, on occasion, by senior members of his administration.

We've counted 28 different ways the President and his team have been inaccurate. Here is a chronological list, which may be updated as additional misinformation comes to our attention.

 

(more)

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/politics/fact-check-trump-administration-coronavirus-28-dishonest/index.html

Sorry but CNN is a hotbed of crazed fruit juice drinking, leftist socialist anti-Trumpers, who purvey fake news, at every opportunity. 

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

People only hate Trump because his policies are 100% awful. He is the bad combination of a raging narcissistic ******* without being a good president. 

What a load of crap. 

Trump might of gotten a glimpse of his future if he loses the next election..........................Weinstein 23 years

1 minute ago, pigseye said:

What a load of crap. 

I'm actually going to agree with you here.  There are hundreds of reasons to hate Trump.

4 hours ago, do or die said:

If Trump had any redeeming qualities at all......I would merely dislike him

Finally, something closer to the truth. People hate Trump because he is an awful person, not because of his policies, which the Democrats continue to slide through the house. Only the far left eco-terrorists despise his energy policies and the environment. 

23 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Its not the platform and ideas that are being rejected- it's the question of electability. 

polll after poll after poll shows that US citizens want the stuff Bernie is putting out there. 

Another load of crap, the vast majority of Democrats are still capitalists, it's why they voted Trump instead of Hillary last election. The nearing retirement age wanted to be sure they could get a return on their investments, which Trump delivered on. The younger far left generation is completely living in la la land. 

4 minutes ago, pigseye said:

What a load of crap. 

Nah. What policies of his have benefitted the average American? And try and avoid places like NoTricksZone for source material.

He's currently mulling a bailout for the shale oil industry hit by this week's market slump. Remind me again how corporate socialism is helpful.

5 minutes ago, pigseye said:

Finally, something closer to the truth. People hate Trump because he is an awful person, not because of his policies, which the Democrats continue to slide through the house. Only the far left eco-terrorists despise his energy policies and the environment. 

Yup, corporate entities, and business moguls should be able to carry their business and industries unfettered and unregulated.  Because they care about more than just profits....you can depend on them to simply do the right thing for everybody.   Worked just fine on Wall Street (the Bushs) in the 2000's.

Edited March 11, 20205 yr by do or die

13 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Fact check: A list of 28 ways Trump and his team have been dishonest about the coronavirus

By Daniel Dale and Tara Subramaniam, CNN

Updated 2:38 PM ET, Wed March 11, 2020

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has been comprehensively misinforming the public about the coronavirus.

Trump has littered his public remarks on the life-and-death subject with false, misleading and dubious claims. And he has been joined, on occasion, by senior members of his administration.

We've counted 28 different ways the President and his team have been inaccurate. Here is a chronological list, which may be updated as additional misinformation comes to our attention.

 

(more)

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/politics/fact-check-trump-administration-coronavirus-28-dishonest/index.html

CNN your most trusted news source, lol. 

2 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Nah. What policies of his have benefitted the average American? And try and avoid places like NoTricksZone for source material.

He's currently mulling a bailout for the shale oil industry hit by this week's market slump. Remind me again how corporate socialism is helpful.

Just because you don't agree with making it easier to do business, ie tax cuts, less regulation, creating jobs, you do realize unemployment is at an all time low, doesn't make it wrong, unless you want to be Greta and save the world. Are you Greta? 

Just now, pigseye said:

CNN your most trusted news source, lol. 

Says the guy who sources NoTricksZone on the regular to peddle bullshit denialist rhetoric. LOL

3 minutes ago, pigseye said:

CNN your most trusted news source, lol. 

Yup, should go straight to Fox, where the President of the United States is in daily contact with his advisors ....

4 minutes ago, do or die said:

Yup, corporate entities, and business moguls should be able to carry their business and industries unfettered and unregulated.  Because you can depend on them to simply do the right thing for everybody.   Worked just fine on Wall Street in the 2000's.

It's the same economic policies that have given us the highest standard of living in the world, must be something wrong I guess. 

Just now, pigseye said:

Just because you don't agree with making it easier to do business, ie tax cuts, less regulation, creating jobs, you do realize unemployment is at an all time low, doesn't make it wrong, unless you want to be Greta and save the world. Are you Greta? 

Stay edgy, piggy. As usual, just more hyperbole followed up by idiotic comments.

Feel free to pat yourself on the back with a chair. I won't expect any sources to back up your garbage claims.

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Says the guy who sources NoTricksZone on the regular to peddle bullshit denialist rhetoric. LOL

Not my fault if can't read a peer reviewed scientific study, or don't understand the actual science, finish school first Greta, then come back. 

1 minute ago, pigseye said:

It's the same economic policies that have given us the highest standard of living in the world, must be something wrong I guess. 

Policy and how it is carried out can be two different things.  The Bush administration easing up on existing financial regulatory bodies  led directly to 2008

Just now, pigseye said:

Not my fault if can't read a peer reviewed scientific study, or don't understand the actual science, finish school first Greta, then come back. 

Good English. 0/10

Idiot.

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Stay edgy, piggy. As usual, just more hyperbole followed up by idiotic comments.

Feel free to pat yourself on the back with a chair. I won't expect any sources to back up your garbage claims.

I would present you with sources but you'd just declare them as invalid because they didn't come from your approved list of propaganda outlets. 

1 minute ago, do or die said:

Policy and how it is carried out can be two different things.  The Bush administration easing up on existing financial regulatory bodies  led directly to 2008

No system or person is perfect but it benefits the majority most of the time. 

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Good English. 0/10

Idiot.

It's not my first language, so sorry to disappoint you Greta. 

20 minutes ago, pigseye said:

You just described 90% of the presidents in US history. 

Trying to lower everyone to Trump's level to feel better about supporting him is sad.  The other Presidents arent the current President.  If you're okay with a racist rapist as President, that's on you.  

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-didnt-transform-the-economy-its-mostly-the-same-as-it-was-under-obama-2019-11-12

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Over the past four years since he began his political career, Trump has promised much faster growth and much higher stock markets. He’s promised that all the manufacturing and mining jobs would come back, and he told us that the tax cuts would put more than $4,000 in the pocket of every working family. On Tuesday he said that America was back on its way to dominating the global economy, because his policies had made America competitive again.

None of that has happened.

By most measures, the economy of today is little changed from the economy he inherited in early 2017. Job growth is a little slower, but gross domestic product (GDP) growth is a little faster.

Over the 11 quarters since he was elected, U.S. real GDP has averaged 2.6% per year, not the 4%, 5% or even 6% that Trump vowed. By way of comparison, GDP averaged 2.4% over the final 16 quarters of Barack Obama’s presidency. All of the extra growth (and more) since 2017 was provided by a fiscal boost from tax cuts and spending increases as Republican lawmakers turned from austerity budgets under Obama to stimulus under Trump.

Trump managed to squeeze a little more growth out of the economy, but at the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars from the Treasury. That cost might be worth it if the tax cut had laid the groundwork for higher economic growth later due to large investments in private businesses and public works. It didn’t.

Job growth, which is probably the single most important indicator of the economy’s strength, has slipped slightly, from about 217,000 per month to 189,000. That’s still a respectable number, and there’s no reason for Trump’s economic advisers to lie and make up statistics to try to make it seem bigger.

Remember that time Trump made Murica great again? Yeah... Me, neither. Because that didn't happen.

It takes a special kind of stupid to lap up the kind of garbage Trump spews.

There has been no rejection of the far left.  As someone else pointed out, its electability.  Its about beating Trump.  Its a bad sign for Trump actually.  Although almost all signs are bad for Trump.  

2 minutes ago, pigseye said:

It's not my first language, so sorry to disappoint you Greta. 

Lame excuse. Get well soon, *****.

At least Zontar is getting a well deserved respite......