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You know, I agree that it was a bone-headed last minute play. No doubt. But in a 5-4 win, it's hard to overlook a player with a +3 rating and with an assist to boot. So, it is okay to cost your team points as long as you are a plus?What if we didn't get the 2 points and missed the playoffs by one point? Would that be okay.....even if it were Minny beating us out by a point.....Bogo took some dumb penalties last year and Maurice benched him for a period, does he have the cojones to do it to Buff? Agree but thing with buff is he takes these penalties in the last 2 minutes and then plays all dumb like he thought it was ok... that's what pisses me off about some of our guys... Burmi was another with the elbow and was like what me. I'll give Burmi credit because on replay he actually saw what he did and was like yeah ok that's a penalty but buff... man guys brain dead at times

And I 100 percent agree with this one.

Plus minus isn't a good Stat Tho. A guy could be jumping on the ice and have nothing to do with the play and that's plus 1. Buff almost cost the team. Second time he's taken a really dumb almost dirty penalty in the last 2 minutes of a game. Didn't cost them this time. Also he was on the ice for 1 of minny goals. Penalties are costing them. Thorburn should be benched and mau needs to talk to buff or not have him on the ice in the last 2 minutes. Also trouba and Stuart were awful... stu was better. Trouba just sucked. People were talking 6 million a year for trouba but so far... I'd offer him 4 at the most. If that. Just isn't getting better

$$$$ solves everything

Ya but dirty dutch is so good... I'm glad he's back. Maybe because zeb is a heel and maybe del Rio would be cheered. Regardless I like zeb.

Buff needs to go. Dumb penalties. Refs sure let lots of stick infractions by the wild go tho. Ehlers definitely got hooked or slashed or interfered with... pick your poison and cost jets a scoring chance. Refs need to wake up

He wouldn't have been on the Ice but regardless, Jets have started sleeping and have stopped playing. Trying to protect the lead instead of trying to take it to Minny.

With Zeb Colter Lol. Great talker.

Bad play by buff and Toby both pinching. Why are they both pinching with a 3 goal lead. Ehlers was covering their asses. And it was a rebound. Where was buff or Toby

Jets have 14 maybe 15 shots already, Ducks had 15 all game last night vs the Wild. Wheeler sets a franchise record with his assist, 8 game streak is the new franchise record for points... Man, the Kids tho, Scheif,Ehlers,Petan even... Man oh man In a few years a line of Connor,Scheif,Ehlers is gonna be so sick.

It's definitely percentage and has been for years now. The problem they have is they can't create new stars. John Cena was the last star they created and could be argued like Bryan and like Punk... he made himself. Win one week.. lose the next. Nobody is allowed to actually win 2 or 3 times in a row unless you are Cena

Watch him get traded soon

Burmi is number 6, watch him tonight... watch him hold on to the puck too long, watch him not use his linemates properly, watch the play go back to our D zone when he gets the puck in the O zone and holds on to it way longer than he should... It's gonna happen because it's happened every game this year He's not awful, he's good defensively and that's all he ever will be, a good defensive player with absolutely zero upside in the O zone.. You can't score if you don't shoot the puck and you can't shoot the puck if you hold on to it too long Fancy stats say burmi has not been that great this year.

You have to look at each phase differently O, D, Special Teams D = not the greatest but for the amount of time they are on the field, they aren't that bad actually... and no they aren't on the field cuz they can't get off or stop the other team, they are on the field because our O can't do anything. Sack Leader, INT leader, they have talent there, perhaps hall is a little too passive for my liking, needs to be more aggressive in my opinion but basically the D is the reason these games have been so close recently Special Teams - not good to start the year, but like the D has gradually improved, to the point where they have actually won us a game or 2 themselves... our last win, vs BC, was due to D and special teams. Cost us a game or 2 also but... all in all, has shown improvement just like the D The O= OH boy really, worst in the league, most sacks allowed, worst team in the redzone, least amount of yards in total, pretty much dead last in every possible category D and Special teams aren't the best but they certainly aren't the worst, Our O is... Really says it all doesn't it... Our O is the worst O in the league and it's not even close. Someone said we have only score 30 or more points once, that was the first game of the year wasn't it? Vs SASK... the worst D in the league by far.... yup, says it all really.... people can go on about the D or Special teams and pretend they are the issue but... reality, truly is, if you only score 30 points once the entire year, it's not your D that is the problem, it's not your special teams, it's your O and it's not even really debatable. 1 damn game and it was the first of the year where we scored 30 or more points, and guess what, we only scored exactly 30 that game... yeah, the O is the real problem.

Maybe firing MB changes a lot of things, it's hard to say really, Not sure how much of our O's struggles is on him and how much is on the players.... Willy getting hurt certainly didn't help, it was a flawed O scheme and system then, perhaps seeing Nichols and the sorts struggle in it quite badly shows you just how awful it is, Only Willy could make it work.. Stanley Bryant doesn't go from All Star to Not great for no reason, eventho i really don't think he's been that bad, it's more the guard and when Picard played, the center position that really struggled badly, Capers at guard is awful,Neufeld at tackle is awful... Need to upgrade basically those 2 spots on the oline and we should be better, then again, if MB is kept around, doubt he will be, but if he is, you could probably bring in 5 all star oline guys and it still wouldn't matter. Bryant isn't awful, Chungh was a rookie,Goossen looks ok for a guy getting his first real reps at center.. he's an upgrade on Picard that's for sure... 2 spots, Jace Daniels was a huge loss IMO.. perhaps the most telling sign of the scouts is their inabilty to find import oline... I mean, it shouldn't be that hard... then again, like i've said before, maybe the scouts did bring in some talented players and maybe MB just kind of dismissed them without even giving them a chance. I really do think MB is the biggest problem on this team by far... The D can only do so much... you need the O to actually show up for more than one or 2 quarters in games, we always start out so slow, week to plan and we start off so brutal, I don't get it, sometimes it's not all on the play calling tho, sometimes, our QB, (not including Willy)is just terrible, (brohm,marve, nichols a couple games now) Not saying that i ever thought MB wasn't the biggest issue but... pretty tough to look good when Brohm and Marve were playing but with Nichols, a veteran of the league looking like total crap, It's pretty obvious that the biggest problem is indeed the OC. Square Pegs... Round Holes.... not using guys to their strengths, schemes are just not good enough.... Hope to GOD ALLAH BUDDAH whoever... that they fire his incompetent ass this week, why keep him another week, just finish him and do it now. Nothing to lose, everything to gain... I kinda would like to see this team with a competent to average OC... just average even, average is several steps better than what we've seen this year This is my biggest issue, Our D isn't the best, but they are good enough if they have time to actually rest up and don't have to be on the field for pretty much the entire first half... If we had just an average, doesn't need to be best in the league (ideally, it is) but doesn't need to be, if it was just average, like ranked 5th or even 6th for that matter... we'd probably have a few more wins for sure... The O has yet to win a game for us IMO, the D has, special teams has... the O hasn't and that's a huge problem and overall, it's the problem that is holding this team back for sure... Big Time.. Tough to judge talent, all star to not looking so great the next year.... it tells you, it's not so much the player(s)... It's the guy calling the plays.

If MB is back... I'm done

It's easy to say this now but when the new season comes around.... it's a whole other story. Don't think it will take much to bring fans back.... Couple signings... MB bring fired.... once June 2016 rolls around.... things will be different. Lots of frustration right now but... lots of time for change and cooler heads to prevail too.

If they fire MB that will be a huge win in my books.

Useless for sure but not sure firing him earlier would have made a huge difference. Same O I'm sure but different guy calling the plays doesn't change a flawed system

Oh and Johnny Adams Khalil Bass and I believe MO Leggett says hi. Jace Daniels too. Bigger loss than ppl realize. Cam Marshall too. Not his fault the OC don't use him enough. I really do feel it's tough to gauge the O talent when the OC is useless. Technically also Willy was never a free agent... Walters traded Etienne for him.

Nichols won 2 games as a bomber and with a kicker it would have been 3. Regardless tho.. Nichols is a back up

That's what Chamblin wanted too. That worked out well. Edmonton and Hamilton and even Montreal are better examples

I'd like to see the bombers announce that they have fired MB this week. Nothing to gain keeping him. Just be done with it and move on. You have a bye week and last game will be meaningless. Get rid of MB now instead of waiting

I think schemes play a role. Is our oline good? Nope. Are they as awful as the scheme makes them out to be... I don't think so. Fire MB and bet lots changes MB seems to be playing the square peg round holes game. Play to our guys strengths instead of their weaknesses and you will really be able to judge the talent. Stanley Bryant doesn't go from all star to not good for no reason. It's schemes and it goes back to the OC

Gotta wonder if our reputation as an organization who fires people way to quickly is playing a role here. People talk about hiring the right coach but.... why would that guy want to come here knowing that in 2 years or even less people will be calling for his head. As for scouting... Ken moll explained it well a while back... you can put a list together but it takes sometimes 2 years for those players to finally come up here. It takes time.... something they haven't really had. 2 years... next year we should see some better recruiting hopefully. Then again maybe Walters and the scouts did bring in some good players on O but MB never really gave them a chance. Tough to say. Fire MB and let's see what happens. You fire MB and there is no more excuses cuz... I'm not sure anyone could succeed or look great playing in this O. Fire MB and see what happens. Look at replacing hall with a more aggressive minded d coach....