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Game 47 : Jets @ Sharks - West Coast Story
Goalie replied to FrostyWinnipeg's topic in Winnipeg Jets Discussion
Pittsburgh. They were talking to the Jets last year about him apparently. Washington. Tampa. There are teams out there who value defensively responsible players -
Yet Buffalo isn't much better off than we are.
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Game 47 : Jets @ Sharks - West Coast Story
Goalie replied to FrostyWinnipeg's topic in Winnipeg Jets Discussion
There are teams out there in the east who would trade for Toby. Probably would have to take back a cap dump but it's possible -
Hes known to be a hot head.
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I think he has and this is a last ditch desperation effort by a coach who knows he's on thin ice. Jets will have to go 24 11 to have a chance at the playoffs. .. that means winning more than 3 In a row a few times. They are finished.
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If the Jets actually play better defensively they have a chance but if it's the Jets team who has shown up the last 4 games... they will lose. Pavelec is what he is. Career 907 goalie. Helle this year is 907. Hutch is 894. He's better option than Hutch. But thats not saying much. It's a team game and the goalie will only be as good as the team he plays in front of. I still don't see how he fixes our PP or PK or D zone play or dump and chase O play or lack of discipline or a whole bunch of other issues plaguing this team. The uneducated fan will think... oh we won... it's because pav was in goal... but if we win it's because we were the better team and recently outside of the Calgary game about a week ago... the team has been awful. Maurice has ripped in to them 2 of tge last 3 games calling their play horseshit. If they play like horseshit again... they will lose yet again
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It's 90 percent on the coaches. They are the ones who design the structure and system and game plan.
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Because he was waived and unclaimed earlier in the year
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Because this is reality and if someone was interested in pavelec would have plucked him earlier. It's likely that if he's not a jet next year pav isn't in the nhl. Who is gonna pay him 2 3 million a year for 2 or 3 years to backup?
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Isles struggling. Fire the coach. We struggling... bring up a bad goalie.
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Pav or hutch will be traded or sent down... moose signed a guy to a PTO so gotta think one of Hutch or Pav will be sent down soon. Helle isn't going anywhere since they won't risk waivers... Hutch? Who cares. He gets picked up... give pav a 1 yr extension. Philips isn't being called up to the Moose either so this is probably short term.
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Fun fact: Vasilevsky from Tampa was 1 of the first goalies to use the new pants earlier in this season, his first 2 games wearing those pants... BACK TO BACK SHUT-OUTS.
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You'd be wrong then, It's 1 of the problem but it's not even close to number 1. on the list of problems, is theres 10, Goaltending is probably around 5 or 6 You know Helles 907 save percentage this year, that's Ondrej Pavelecs Career save percentage pretty much. So, yeah...Goaltending isn't the biggest problem at all, if it is, that means your buddy and pal Ondrej was part of the problem for 6 seasons also. (which he was) but it's now at the point where the problem is pretty obviously on coaching or lack there of.
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HUTCH was supposed to be the Veteran, he's what? 26 27 years old, prior to this year, had some pretty good NHL numbers, he's supposed to be the guy that when Helle struggled (cuz rookies do that), he was supposed to be the guy that stepped in and stepped up, he didn't tho and hasn't. You can't expect your rookie 23 year old goalie to stand on his head on a nightly basis, and you can't expect him to be lights out every night, every goalie has a bad game or 2 or 3 or 4 plus a year (Holtby let in 6 in the 2nd last night, Price let in 7 vs Minny, Murray let in 7 last night even).. It happens but... what you can expect is your backup goalie to come in and actually give your team a chance, Hutch hasn't done that and I feel, because he hasn't done that and because Maurice obviously lost confidence in Hutch, he started overplaying Helle (the 23 year old rookie), Helle obviously was feeling the pressure a bit, I mean how can't you, You're a rookie and it's basically up to you for your team to win or not, since Hutch certainly isn't/wasn't doing that. Calling up Pavs? Whatever, as long as Hutch sits in the press box is fine with me, maybe Pavs goes on a run, he won't but maybe he plays good enough that the Jets could trade him for something at the deadline. What will likely happen, he will play ok, but the Jets will lose more than they win because the problem isn't actually on the goaltending.
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Why should Chevy's ass be on the line? I get it, people are upset but to ignore the fact that our best players are our youth, the ones who chevy has drafted and developed, well, that's just stupid... Is the Washington GM's ass on the line? I mean Holtby let in 6 goals in the 2nd period last night, is the Montreal coach or GM's job on the line? Price let in 7 vs Minnesota, It happens... But the difference there is the coaches actually come out the next practice and work on the mistakes his entire TEAM made, Maurice? He doesn't, he just rips in to them on the bench it seems now on a nightly basis, a sign of a coach who knows his time is coming to an end.
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I think this is a desperate move by a desperate coach actually, Would Chevy have to agree?sure, but this is Paul Maurice for sure. His ass is on the line and he thinks calling up a below average goalie will help, he won't tho. Maurice is delushional and has officially lost it, I'm not surprised this happened tho and i actually don't hate it, if HUTCH SITS in the press box, the fact they IR'd Chiarot and are gonna be keeping 3 goalies, well, that's pretty interesting, stupid but interesting. But this is Paul Maurice trying to save his ass... Jets have lots of problems for sure, Perreault seems to be one, earlier in the year he threw Trouba under the bus, a couple games ago, he threw goaltending under the bus, this from a guy who just signed a new deal and is playing like total crap, There is no accountability on this team, Vets man, they can get away with whatever they want and there are very little consequences. Does Pavelec take less penalties? Does he fix our PP? Does he help the PK? does he score more goals, does he come out and go to sleep for periods on end and then wake up in the final 2 minutes of a game? Does he play D? Is he going to play Stu on the PK and stafford on the PP? This is all coaching and this right here is a desperate move by a desperate coach. Chevy obviously agreed but.. the fact they kept hutch and helle both up, shows that this iS probably more Paul Maurice.
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The Jets season is done. They got Bigger issues that just goaltending. I'm hopeful this is a move to sit hutch down. Hindsight is always 20 20 but reality is at the start of the year... this is what the majority of fans wanted. Helle Hutch. Hutch has really sucked tho. Couldn't really see that coming.