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And Walters record is 8-12 so far and there's still holes on the team. I get liking this group better but don't use the record to justify that. I'll stand by the claims that Mack left the team in better shape than Kelly did as well. Not to mention I already acknowledged that Mack was not a player in free agency and didn't have as much success drafting as he needed 2. When talking strictly about recruiting american players Mack blows Walters and co. out of the water whether people liked the guy or not. as to the second point, does depth matter if your starters aren't good enough? Speaking of Joe Mack, whatever happened to Ken Moll? He must have played a big part in uncovering talent as he was the only US scout they had at the time.

You know.. Cuz he tested willy and did all the tests on him.. Smh. Guys getting his name out there by rocking the boat. Sure, you could argue the bombers and willy are pushing the limit but again, if he passed ALL baseline tests after hit and then days again later.. What's the issue here? Easy to say but you have to admit that both O'Shea and Willy have been less than forthright in this matter, describing the injury only as "upper body" and avoiding using the word "concussion" at all. Both Willy and O'Shea have said that he never lost consciousness and yet he lay motionless for at least 2 mins. and the photo clearly shows his eyes are closed. Willy was standing in the tunnel still in full gear within 20 minutes of being laid out so if they did go through the proper concussion protocol the results were already somewhat predetermined. In Willy's own words he was ready to return to the game for the 2nd half but the medical staff held him out. As the article explains the real danger for Willy is in the next game, were even a minor tackle could lead to more serious damage. It wasn't that many years ago that Buck Pierce returned to play in games in which he had been obviously concussed. So yes the CFL is taking steps in the right direction but those steps are still guarded by self-interest and the traditions of professional sports and not based on the best scientific evidence. Fans may cheer but it is Willy who has to ultimately pay the price. The photo proves nothing. He could have been mid-blink when it was taken for all we know. Everyone is concerned about the health and well-being of players. The divide is people who think the doctors who have actually examined a player know what they are doing and the other side are people who think they know more than those doctors. Are these the same Doctors that took such good care of Buck?

Not shocking the way the dude landed right on his shoulder after making that catch. He was also knocked out cold at one point, so there may be more to this. Meanwhile over at the Riders forum....Smith has a bigger concussion than Willy, nyah! nyah! nyah!

As long as one of the LB's is rushing on every play but if he's relying on a 3 man rush he needs to make a quick call to Chamblin to find out how well that worked out.

The thing I hate about statements like the ones you're making, is you make it seem like they WANT to lose. Like they aren't trying as hard as they can to win, and doing everything they can to win. You don't think these guys are desperate to win?? What more can they do than everything possible...?? Considering they are trying to build a competitive team , their best "Max Hall" try hard effort isn't cutting it at home. It's the blow outs that drive me crazy, I could actually take more solace in Sask.'s record of 0-2 knowing that at least they were competitive in both games and had a chance to win. Many assured us that the pre-season game against Hamilton meant nothing, while others were quite sure that that they heard the ticking of a bomb before it went off.

Irving isn't even doing things the way he was last year at this point. His level of coverage has dropped off significantly. Bob is still great at PBP (IMO)... but as far as reporting, I think he has basically packed it in... The best of Bob's work can be found on the 2 hour CJOB pre-game show where he and Kelly Moore do more in depth interviews with the players and provide information on their football and family backgrounds and how they came to be Bombers. I imagine this and the play calling is the focus of Bob's work week. In regard to the information the other reporters are providing, it is usually just regurgitated from the semi-daily press-conferences the Bombers hold and for the average fan that summary suffices. Without access to the locker room, players or coaches the reporters really don't have any advantages over the ardent fans on sites such as this.

No worries, the boys are still out there and their still raising hell.

You know.. Cuz he tested willy and did all the tests on him.. Smh. Guys getting his name out there by rocking the boat. Sure, you could argue the bombers and willy are pushing the limit but again, if he passed ALL baseline tests after hit and then days again later.. What's the issue here? Easy to say but you have to admit that both O'Shea and Willy have been less than forthright in this matter, describing the injury only as "upper body" and avoiding using the word "concussion" at all. Both Willy and O'Shea have said that he never lost consciousness and yet he lay motionless for at least 2 mins. and the photo clearly shows his eyes are closed. Willy was standing in the tunnel still in full gear within 20 minutes of being laid out so if they did go through the proper concussion protocol the results were already somewhat predetermined. In Willy's own words he was ready to return to the game for the 2nd half but the medical staff held him out. As the article explains the real danger for Willy is in the next game, were even a minor tackle could lead to more serious damage. It wasn't that many years ago that Buck Pierce returned to play in games in which he had been obviously concussed. So yes the CFL is taking steps in the right direction but those steps are still guarded by self-interest and the traditions of professional sports and not based on the best scientific evidence. Fans may cheer but it is Willy who has to ultimately pay the price.

Here is a second opinion from the Wpg Sun. World-renowned concussion expert says Bombers on thin ice with decision to bring Drew Willy back quickly from head injury http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/07/07/world-renowned-concussion-expert-says-bombers-on-thin-ice-with-decision-to-bring-drew-willy-back-quickly-from-head-injury

I still remember the still photo of Alex Brink being hit in the chin by a Montreal helmet and being sent flying, while Murray Clarke just watches impassively and makes no move to throw a flag. That's how I know refs are held accountable. Clarke has been demoted a couple of times. The real question is why they kept promoting him. I'd settle for him being fitted with a dunce hat for the next televised game.

Westerman is causing havoc and is getting close. It's not as if he's getting stood up at the line or being blown away.

Truly embarrassing judgement, would love to have the ref. held accountable and explain his reasoning. With all the officials on the field with their walky-talky microphonie things and the big "eye in the sky" you'd think someone would have had the wisdom to yell "throw the flag F-head!" even if it was 20 secs. after the play. Covering ass is important in any profession.

Referring to the play that Demski stepped out in the end-zone, O'Shea said that it should have been a safety and that the league had confirmed this. Unfortunately there is no current mechanism in place to have that play challenged. He also said that in 500 games played no league official could recall a play of that nature happening before.

Hard to say but they have to keep him. Bucknor is the weak link in the secondary imo but his passport keeps him in play. Maybe Adams can play LB better than Randle.

Bravo.

Durie's "potential" is already spent, he's 34.

What I have noticed so far this season is a distinct similarity in the Defensive problems that both the Bombers and Sask. are experiencing. Poor pressure from the D-Lines and LB's and breakdowns in coverage in the secondaries are common to both teams. I don't believe that this can be attributed solely to poor personnel as Sask. has an excellent D-Line and yet they have been held to 3 sacks in 2 games. The Bombers D-Line is so-far unproven and has accumulated only 1 sack in two games. Both teams have unproven LB groups and they are both receiving heavy criticism for ineffective tackling and poor positional play. From last years performances I have no problem rating both secondaries in the top half of the league and yet they have looked extremely inept in coverage this year. The common denominator for both teams is of course Richie Hall but I have to wonder if both teams are heavily invested in a similar defensive system that has been badly exposed by the new coverage rules stressing non-contact. I'm unwilling at this point to accept that the defects can be blamed entirely on the player personnel as both D's have plenty of good proven veterans. So, are the Wpg. and Sask. D's virtual clones?

Comparing pass defence in CFL to the NFL is apples to oranges because the receivers are already up to full speed when they cross the line of scrimmage. Anyone know In the evolution of the CFL game when did the shot-gun snap became the norm? If the CFL needs to compensate the advantage the O has been given they could eliminate the use of the shot-gun snap.

From the game on the weekend I don't see Coombs measuring up to Durie in terms of being a direct replacement yet. He seems quite slight and hasn't shown the ability to break tackles the way that Durie could.

Bingo, the last 3 seasons he's been decimated by injury plus he's 34 yrs. old.

Willy should be scheduled for a regular presser sometime this week, the first question asked is going to be about the injury. Whether he answers it or not remains to be seen. I think it could possibly have been a "dental" injury. I don't think many QB's use protective mouth guards because of all the yelling they have to do.

The threat of multi-million dollar lawsuits may be the only thing that convinces that group to change their ways.

You would think that after all the comments and attention that was given to the hit that Willy took, that the refs would be specifically looking for moronic plays like the macho move that Harris put on Harris. Like, right in your face Trevor...BAM 15 harder right there. But no, nobody saw it...lame. I think Macho man was penalized for helmet contact with QB Harris, it was the contact on Whitaker that led to the melee that went un-penalized. Regardless Macho Harris needs to be on the refs. watch list for fines or suspensions for the "in your face" style that he continues to play.

I prefer O'Sheamus. As in please Mike don't O'Sheamus.

It's like diarrhea, too much scoring and not enough resistance for me,