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This kind of stuff makes me smile rather than bother me. Fans that try to find that “if only” play as a justification for a loss just means they torture themselves more over a loss by deluding themselves rather than seeing that they need to get better. Case in point the “Fajardo crossbar”. The fans are convinced that the errant bounce was the only thing keeping them from a Grey Cup win in 2019, and disregard the four times the ‘Riders got to the Bomber 5 and only generated 6 points in total as the real reason for the loss. And the media is only too happy to sell a “heartbreak” narrative and not let pesky facts like the double coverage on the last play that would have more than likely knocked the ball away or picked it off, or that a TD would have still left them a convert away from only a tie. End result is even better than the clear loss. We still celebrate an earned win, the fans agonize more over a phony notion that they could have had it and it eats away at their soul, and the club accepts the false reality of “we were good enough to win” and doesn’t focus on making improvements, this setting them up for more failure the next season. So, yes, Ticat fans, that rouge was the only reason you lost. How that must sting!

This is the weird one to me. I would have thought someone who suffered financially because of lockdowns would jump at the potential cure. A comedienne named Julie Nolke did a series of online bits describing the pandemic to her past self, pretty clever. In one of the bits her future self shows up and the past version says “oh, you’re back with more bad news. Let me guess, still in lockdown, no vaccines” and the future one says “oh no, we have the vaccines, people just don’t want to take them”. The past self says “wait, people have been protesting the lockdowns and begging for society to get back to normal, now we have the vaccine that is the salvation we have been waiting for, and those same people now don’t want to take it? Seems like a bit of a slap in the face”. Here is a link to the video. It is number 5 in the series. The whole set is worth a watch IMO for a good chuckle.

You still have a working VHS machine? Better get that tape transferred to disc.

Thanks for putting an actual human touch on this pandemic by sharing your experience. These perspectives are valuable in navigating all the issues.

The only true “must” is Collaros. Of all the positions we need to fill, his loss at QB would cripple us.

This is a brilliant articulation. Thank you. There are studies in psychology that show even intelligent, educated people can be swayed by groupthink and whose ego won’t allow them to question the majority they are around. And we are dealing with a gigantic number of uneducated people out there who are all too easily influenced by others to satisfy their confirmation bias. Consistent messaging and better education would be a big help, and not giving oxygen to those “mavens” as you correctly label them would be a blessing. Great discussion all. Thanks for all the insights.

Let me try to clarify a bit. I have highlighted what I took issue with. Before I go down this rabbit hole, let me clearly state: 1. I am VERY pro-vaccination and it drives me crazy to see the continued resistance in some quarters. 2. I am strongly in favour of restrictions to privileges for those who, for other than medical reasons, opt not to take the vaccine. Suspend travel, bar entry to establishments, border crossings, etc., deny first access to medical treatment since you have done nothing to assist in the process and are putting others at risk. My point was that we are not talking about completely emotion-based decisions on one side and completely logic-based decisions on the other side. I believe it is more accurately presented as information vs. misinformation I am aware of the science I follow, and I believe it to be sound (it is the same science you tout, BTW). But you describe anti-vaxxers as using emotion and not logic, but now say logic can be flawed. THAT is my point - in their minds they are using logic, not emotion, and the pro-vaxxers are being emotionally driven by fear in rushing to get the vaccine. It is merely an issue of labelling. And I feel that is is being driven more so by misinformation as the underpinning to these decisions. To them, it is not a hunch, it is based on their form of logic, which is misguided by misinformation. To just shrug them off as using emotion instead of flawed thinking will not fix the problem. Firstly, not ALL of it. People are ultimately responsible for themselves, of course. But I will say that a sizeable portion of the blame can be pointed at those who peddle in misinformation from a position of influence, and we should not downplay the role they have in this, and the role they could play in correcting this misinformation for the public good. Secondly, you reference the misinformation out there from phone scientists and the former President, and say people are idiots who believe what they want to. Absolutely, you are actually agreeing with me. But that belief not emotion-based, but based on this kind of misinformation, and is being spread by influencers who are using the reach of the media, who are not shutting it down but throw it up on their screens. Not so much a defence of them as an indictment of those who spread the misinformation. And my concern is that just dismissing anti-vaxxers as too emotional to be reasoned with leads down the path of “we need to just enforce rules since some won’t think for themselves and are putting others at risk, so screw their feelings”. There is a part of me that does nor mind that approach for the sake of saving humanity, but how far can that approach go, and at what point does the majority make a decision that I think is wrong but is the popular one (remember the debate about the possibility of “herd immunity” and avoiding an economy-crippling shutdown at all costs in the days before the vaccine was available?). Do we just wash our hands of those who disagree, or do we push for better education and more responsible information dissemination from this who have the power to do so? Or are too many people beyond hope of changing their thinking?

To defend the anti-vax crowd for a minute (and this is the only minute l will spend on them) they could make the same argument against the vaccine crowd. “You are being ruled by emotional fear, so you are jumping to take an unproven vaccine that you don’t know the risks of. My logical research tells me there is no way a vaccine could be developed that quickly with no known risk”. The problem is the “logical” information everyone has access to, and the confirmation bias at play for both sides. Whatever logic is being applied has the emotional underpinning of “wanting to believe that logic”. I want to believe that vaccines will protect me, so I buy the reported science behind its safety and effectiveness, and point to the cases of anti-vaxxers dying or ending up in the ICU as validation of my side. They will point to vaxxers still catching COVID or having side effects as proof the vaccines are not working. Both sides can say that their science is sound and the opposite side is living in fantasy world, and there is enough noise out there on both sides to back up the basic position unless one digs past the chatter and gets some honest infallible research behind it, which can too easily get buried in the crush of “information” I put the blame a lot on the changing media landscape which has replaced hard news with opinion and entertainment for the sake of ratings over objective truth, not caring what their “spin” is and how it warps critical thinking so long as it gets them eyeballs and screen clicks. I have very little time for much of the media and the monsters they have created but take no accountability for under the guise of “journalistic freedom”. I will freely admit to having a massive bias based on personal experience.

Since Kane wanted to declare bankruptcy rather than pay his debts off with his $49M contract, he is probably happy that the rest of his contract has been voided so he can claim no means to pay things off.

Open question for the group, just looking for opinions: If people don’t want to enforce vaccinations but are OK with denying access to things or places as a privilege withheld, then how would people feel about denying access to healthcare or the ICU for those who refuse to take steps (I.e. getting vaccinated) to keep themselves and others as healthy as possible, keeping in mind that health care is a right and not a privilege? I am seriously on the fence here, as I don’t like the infringement of rights but also hate the thought of others being denied care because of the overcrowding of ICUs and it puts others at risk for their cancelled procedures.

So even though interference, not a dirty hit by PLD, yet he has to engage in a fight due to the “code”. Wish the NHL would call instigator penalties more when a clean hit results in a challenge fight.

Beaulieu in for DeMelo firmly establishes Heinola as #8 in the defensive depth chart. Guess it wasn’t all on Maurice.

If in “extreme pain”, then why exit in this fashion? Unfortunately for Brown, his history of petulant behaviour and lying in the past (fake vaccine card) works against his credibility here.

Apparently you forget one thing…….how to finish a sentence. 🤣

We should trade for Vejmelka if for no other reason than we won’t have to face him in net any more. 2 games, 2 goals on 93 shots. .978 save %.

Shechnikov-Toninato-Vesaleinen have looked good for 4th line work tonight. Copp-Lowry-Reichel not so much.

Nah, I don’t take anything you say seriously. 😁

???? Any pictures?

Shechnikov breaks the ice. First Jets’ goal on 55 shots against Vejmelka this year.

Kevin Sawyer and Sara Orlesky in COVID protocol.

Sadly, Trump is not the real problem. He is the “useful idiot” who the Republican establishment only needs as the rallying figurehead for the brainwashed masses who vote for “him”. Like Cheney running things when Bush 2 was the puppet President, there will be a smarter, more corrupt puppet master behind the scenes who will call the shots and more quietly destroy democracy. If they can compete with Putin and his attempt to take down the USA through chaos.

I totally agree with that assessment. Some figure that in a league of nine teams, you can tear down and re-build more quickly, and will take that flash in the pan approach. But I am enjoying the sustained success of the Walters approach much more for sure (it helps to stomach that mindset when the long drought is over and we have more patience as fans).

That’s where I was going. Would certainly be a great rebuttal to #1990.

The unintentional hilarity of the Simpsons clip is that their defence is getting torched by Springfield, so the defence quits en masse mid-game to go try their luck in the CFL with the Blue Bombers - as if there were in any holes in our defence last year they would be a replacement for. One of the greatest defensive units in CFL history.