Booch

honest question....how is it better tho...the dline?...Vaughters in an upgrade for sure....but he needs to be rotated as does WJ with another end as good or better...who's that end?....it's funny Haba and Garbutt were deemed exoendable but immediately picked up before FA even started...obviously other teams see value and usefuness there...no?...or are they dumb signings? The secondary is probably as good...if not better to be honest...Ford was aa elite Canadian....but an import can offer the same as he did....and we are dep there....dline we have 2 legit proven ends...both albeit on wrong side of 30....One National DT....Lawson.....and 2 promising interior guys....Jake and Scmeck are neither elite...or promising....and just not good enough Receiver to be determined....Mitchell could be a crazy good signing...but he has never been a 1000 yard guy...Demski is always knicked and not getting younger...Clercius is a 2nd yr guy, and nobody knows what Schoen is gonna do out of the gate.....could be a case of not missing a beat...or could be a case of just not Dalton for many game...Banking on him as the bell cow receiver with no issues is a fairly big risk coming off an acl injury. After that...what have we got....Wheatfall only who showed a wee bit of promise...but also a whole lot of stuff he needs to pick up on still....we aren't just slightly worse as it stands OL i have no issue with...and if we actually target and land one of the big fish in FA then even better....and there is no Bighill for arse pulling coming anytime soon prior to TC We are better at returner tho and as a change of pace and package player on offence with Logan, and Jones is a big grab....but where we playing him...Behind the other Jones and Wilson....hopefully not but we all know Osh's loyalty to guys who have been here longer...whether they better or not

yeah was gonna say....he will prob focus things around his boy BO which won't hurt

indeed!

like a sammie??? lol

Buckworked under Lapop for how many years...and was also common knowledge he had a hand in a lot of the play creation....played the game as well....and had more pro experience as a coach...again...a totally different situ

St Vital Mustangs possibly then why not give him the gig??...He arguably was at the helm of one the best...well rounded offences last yr....so have him take a back seat to a guy who has never done it at the pro level....and also havingto integrate a significant amount of new talent into it is just a poor decision....

use and scheme at times tho...makes talent seem less then desired

how so?..Younger was in total control of the defense....if you didnt notice by scheme and philosophy....not evenclose to the same thing...Hall was just here as a courtesy and to finish out his contract and us not having to eat the cost and let him go

i know....funny

we laughed at the Rider OC hire last yr...who's laughing now

You think Jake gonna offer more than his paltry production last yr....prob give less...thats regression or if you wanna call it running with status quo which has done nothing for you for yrs now....and if he on the roster...he will be taking reps in place of better talent...blocking an up and comer from possibly defeloping into something..Samson....and taking reps away from Lawson....You can see it as being better I guess...thats your choice

shut the eff up.....aRB praising his RUNNIG BACK COACH about being in a better mindset and intilling confidence in him to turn his game around ahs nothing to do with being a qualified and experienced O.C at the prolevel...like get off the tugging dude.... haha...yeah whatever...thats just a horrible hire/promotion/heirachy/structure...whatever you wanna call it.....and doing things backwards....but to each their own I guess....not a shocking move tho

then why not give the reigns to the guy who had the most productive offense last yr and experience doing it at the pro level and let Hogan continue to be part of the "team" learning from him....ass backwards structure

did you seriously tho expect anything different from Osh?...I didnt

who the eff is Hogan....or RB coach who has no experince doing this type of job at even a collegiate level???....and why would Osh say that it wont be a surprise? That is a huge surprise to me....i guess he meant by promoting from within I guess

our defensive backfield is already solid with Holm..Bonds...Nichols.Parker..Griffin..Kelly..Bridges....and we have already signed some solid new prospects...dline and LB was the concern....LB may be okay...dline is worse no there's not....average talent maybe....legit difference maker's that automatically make your roster better are mostly gone...I not talking about receiver either...and no we didnt swap one for the other...we had both last yr...and again...Schoen is a bit of an unknown...he's not a sure thing to be ready right outta the gate...and if he is...may not be what he was for a good portion no ****....but whats the point plugging a gap with basically the same or worse than what you had....and who's to say it was an over pay or would have been....have basically seen no numbers for most theyguys who agreed....so we cant say that we passed because they cost too much...thats just speculating

our mediocre talent got scooped up pretty quick tho.....even before the actual free agency...we kept Jake...and Scmeck...how do you see them as good?....there was over 200k right there to be used elswhere...sign them after thenfact..I sure they still be available Vaughters and WJ...Both over 31...they won't be super productive never getting a solid rotation...with quality guys...not parking Jake our at end like we did...we are weaker on the dline currently...and was a sore spot last yr...No other way to slice that one up

who's left that fills a gaping need for us that was better than what we had?....

yeah he's here....but so is Jake....and you know at the very best we can dream the reps will prob be split....which is just pathetically sad We down graded as we lost 2 young ends with experience...could they evolved more..maybe....maybe not...but we will never know...added an over 30 yr old end to go with our other over 30 yr old end...after that currently we have....nothing...Retained an additional yr older Jake...who will continue to get worse...Have Schmeck as the main backup...who has really showed nothing...he stays but the 2 ends dont..and he costs more....Let Fox walk....still have Woods and Adams...but see above re: Jake and Schmeck in the way for reps...and u know they will get them so yeah..we regressed bigtime on the dline...and we were no hell last yr

I would have preferred him over you know who...has way more value......And yes Hollins and Dunbar have experience and we know they c play....but neither should have been a target....of the 2...Dunbar please...and I know we have some differing views but man I dont see the plan yet....Maybe it was a case of guys not wanting to come here too....watching from the outside last few yrs of what went on here via how Osh makes his roster and reps allocated and they said thanks...but no thanks....Of all the guys who have agreed to deals elsewhere...or re-upped...I have a hard time thinking we didnt approach any of them well must be a really low radar...as for where we needed bigtime help and the easy fix via free agency...theres just scrap heaping left.. like I said...we have allowed our roster to erode it's depth away....have had no forward thinking grooming anyone of worth....and have clung to an aged roster far too long...and now we are really in a pinch...we just may have to go with a real green team...we have done nothing in FA of any real marquee value other than getting Logan...and possibly Jones....for a desired destination thats pretty bad man

we all better pray for that...as options are all gone now and hope he can continue what he did...and add more to it

Ford tho really is a blessing to get away from....easily replaced at half the price or less.....Our real issue was Dline/end....LB....receiver...Oline As it is and looking at what's left to scrounge through...our receiving group will be weaker...our dline as well...got older...and weaker....We did grab a legit LB but missed out on a few others....oline hasnt been adressed....yet.....there are guys there but in all honesty other than at center we would have been okay with same group...or one of Wallace/Eli for Dobson's spot if he leaves....our main issue is at center but we already know Osh is gonna hand that job to Kolo regardless of how camp plays out. We just may be going into camp and season with a bunch of unknowns and yet to prove them selves guys...

pretty much.....Not sure how/where we addressed the dline...If Vaughters is it...man we got schooled in FA....Nothing left now unless you wanna go Woody Barron...Oakman...Lanier....that Albright in Sask is intruiging but other than that now just a collection of scrubs...hope to hell this new scouting staff has it's game face on....as we need some legit talent that can play

he is....not much else of any real value now other than him...Be just like us to miss out on all the guys that were options and bring in an aged Dionte Spencer....and trump it up as a solid signing

yup....loss for sure....and we gonna be going into 2025 with a significantly weaker receiving group than last...regardless of who we sign "vet" wise in FA if we even do now seeing as Rhymes is headed to Cgy now...