Booch

where would he start in the league other than here....and yeah he is great depth and wont kill you if you need to use him as a starter in a pinch....but he is know where near elite, and his salary making him one of the top paid Canadian defenders in the league is a friggin joke

depends what we running...some 2 true safety sets..we will use 2 guys...then run it again flip em around...sometimes add a totally different guy onto it...so someone has to fill their spot...will have the sam play a hb role and role the hb into the sam spot...we bring kelly in...and not sure wtf role he is..and who comes out cause of it...we will play a lb at end or as a modified rush end/jack....then sometimes run Kramdi up to do it and not sure who falls back to his spot...or we swing Griffin there to do it, so someone has to pick up the SAM spot....Just too much moving parts, and guys playing a role they not really suited to, just for "confusing" the offence? If you want a rush end/Jack kinda guy for some sets...dress one who is bult for and is actually suited for it...Not a db or tweener LB...You want a strong safety type gig...Dont use a Kelly in that spot...as he is not it....We used to fail miserably using Hallett there...now its kelly...Smith played a role like that in College...and played it well...Know your fricken players and use accordingly...thats just some the examples

when you need to know 3 different ones in a game....yu arent reacting anymore...thinking too much...and being a step slow...or confused to what you need to do...can look like both...not knowing assignment, and being out of position

media ran with Osh's comments a few yrs back...and then just make it as so..Ive said for yrs he is not full time starter good...he's decent in a role...and situationally but he is definately not top tier...he just not...But Osh has a Kramdi boner so thats the be all end all Look at his stats compared to any other SAM...bottom of barrel...and he didnt get moved from SAM to safety because he was gonna be elite there...coaching realized Griffin is the better option...and has been since he arrived so they had to put him somewhere seeing as he the highest paid 'former" SAM in league...3rd highest defender on our team...and that was only option

Yup..Clercius will be good to compliment Demski and Neild and be the first guy up for injury to a Canadian as well as being used properly within the offence...But him when being back shouldn't be more confirmation in our coaches minds that 3 CDN guys is smart...cause its not Ceresna went out basically whole 2nd half...the fact we don't have a plan to adjust scheme with personnel if injury occurs and play to strengths of who is still able to play is just coaching blunder and ineptitude to the highest degree...and why I think at times our coaches look dumbfounded when things arent working...and players confused...christ 75% of game is played with guys out of natural position...or trying to perfect knowing 3 different spots on defense in a game..no wonder it looks disjonted and like utter confusion...guys are just playing to not eff up...having to think before reacting...not just playing fast and free and instinctively reacting in a split second...the 1..2 second lag where guys arent just reacting like they should is killing us...prob why some give such a cushion cause they need the extra lil bit of time to see what they need to do...and teams have picked up on it and a fast striking offence just eats us alive Time to give it up...realize your base set defense and who fits best where...and let them play...rotate as needed and when down/distance and circumstance calls for it Bringing gys in over and over...moving guys out of their actual spot to just give a different look...but basically still playing your actual same defensive style and scheme fols nobody, but our actual guys on defense...and is pointless...and not needed no...they should focus on their actual defined role...and stay in it...not be made to play 2..3..4 different roles...alongside other guys moving around constantly...getting in no flow...killing familiarity...that be the fastest and easiest fix...that is why there is always this confusion..lack of execution...guys always a step too late...a yard or 2 too far away..they cant just react without thinking...they have to think..process...then react...and that time they are already in chase...or the offence has completed the play for a easy gain..

Easy fix...Roll with Eli at center...Neuf and Wallace....an you can easily add an import reciever....An import reciever gives more bang for the buck than the 3rd import Olineman and if you weigh both...the reciever makes our offence better...Its not like Elsbury is this allstar who us just dominating....And Eli was more than fine...and will be even better with Neuf That and drop one of Jones and Wilson and again you can add a more productive player...be it another DB to keep Kelly off the field (We would be better off as well with Vavl doing his role) but seems our brains trust calling the game day shots are too terrified to do that in case of injury...stop coaching scared and coach to win...and with that goes the smart move to use Singer as a 3rd import receiver and backup returner if required...but we have a dunce as a coach...And if we keep Cobb on roster he as well can be used in a pinch and wont kill us. Corcoran is pointless and useless other than his piss poor contribution to our offence Look at our bottom 3..4 on roster...Boulaine..Stuart...Kelly...Pooching all 3 and adding Peterson, Oyelola would make us better. The rookie Clark being hurt...hurts as he was killing it, But replacing the first 2 and then Kelly with Clark when back...none would be missed Sadly our PR is such a crap construction we have no other real options to get rid of under performing Canadians And the fact we dont have a viable DT ..or even Tweener guy of any usefulness to come in if Ceresna is not able to go...Just screams for the re-instatement of 10 times cut Kirny to gobble up lotsa reps and basically just make us weak as hell up the middle

I had no issue with the Daniels fumble...it happens and he was trying to make things happen so I am sure he will focus on ball security more, and I like the fact we actually used him somewhat and made teams now see him as a viable option

They have him buried behind Jones and Wilson...Much like Smith he needs/shoud be playing at least in heavy rotation if for anything to see if he is actually a guy with potential...All the signs and metrics point to him being very usefull...but in an Osh world you dont get a real chance unless multiple guys go out with a season ender...dont resign here...or retire and we have to make change and if we really being honest...of which none will ever be an actual starter type player....and maybe...maaaaybe 1 may get rotational reps...but could be about as effective as Kelly too tho....just more of our brain dead draft philosophy because we are to reliant and hung up on returnee players and aged out vets...basically same ol same ol that has caused our downward spiral of each of last 4 yrs being worse than previous

were there not 8 receivers grabbed before Cenacle as well?...Surely we could have grabbed one of them not named Daniels who would have offered us something more than Corcorran I could see if he was a right demon on ST...had returner ability...was a lethal blocker in run game when he is in...uber athletic...to justify his roster spot...let alone justify getting offensive reps with the lame decision we can go 3 Nationals....he is absolutely none of that...he is pretty poor at all of them and is one of the most unathletic receivers we have had here in yrs...if not ever...I cant think of one who offered less... Just another in a long line of poor roster decisions...poor allocation of assets and poor assessment of actual talent....

Nailed it!

Griffin does start but Smith needs/has to start...Not starting him is just stunting his development as when he plays he plays well....so let him grow into it..free up that import spot elsewhere...Will Osh dump one his fav vets who has been underperforming off roster...thats the issue. And really I'd keep Wilson on over Jones as he offers more in what he can do, and in a situational role would be quite effective...he hasnt been that bad this yr tho the unit as a whole has been bad... and actually played pretty decent last yr Reese like Smith needs to play...this stupid logic we have that a rookie cant be usefull and start or get significant reps is nonesense...let your best play...Other teams have no problem doing so. Jenkins got basically the gifted pre-determined spot even before camp based on one game last yr where he looked legit..Reese is the better player currently...let him play Cersesna kinda limped off field after 1st series in 3rd quarter....had a lil chat with osh then went to locker room not to be seen again...so who knows his status If Osh does the brain dead move and place Korn on the roster as the replacement which I fear he should be canned...We would get more out of bringing in a import guy..a true DT type and coach him up this week and let him have at er...but based on history we will bring back a cut of ours who couldnt beat out what we already had...and be worse than we were to start the yr

Knowing osh he will pick up the guy we grabbed from Ottawa and then cut to remain status quo or that QB convert we grabbed off edm scrap heap we cut Has to be Singer as he showed the most and offers the most..id even go with Womack before Fredrickson for same reason...we dont need a slow one dimensional guy in a dynamic role pokey gave us

Roster on offence too...hadnt hurt us until last game..but insistence to start 3 canadians when we dont have to...just plain dumb...stupid really...I could see if we had in addition to demski and Neild a Philpot...Gittens...Emilus..etc..but we dont...not even close...Clercius would help if moved inside but still not ideal...Neild is good but he not a difference maker or tone setter...hes a good under radar guy who will hurt teams if they choose to ignore and focus on our top 3...and our top 3 really are middle of pack at best too...they need to really step up if osh chooses to continue the nonesense

Yup..no playmakers whatsoever No big thumper or guy to cause any tentative play by opposition Coming out looking either unprepared or confused...fix a few things in the 3rd quarter but not able to sustain it in critical moments to close games This shouldn't be a everygame thing but it seems to be..but we'll look at the film and correct the mistakes...or we didnt execute...which is it...and how can new mistakes seem to be happening each game...or are they not seeing what needs to be fixed? My thought is its the execution or lack of...and mistakes are the players not good enough in some spots to actually execute...that and our roster makeup of a swath of guys who cant actually play effective snaps and are just ST players..gee how many yrs we been bemoaning that? Our defence as its designed right now doesn't scare anyone and teams have figured out how to pick away at it and control time of possession and keep our offence off field..essentially bagging them out because we have no impact players setting a tone and making disruptive plays..or we just aren't letting them..we play a passive reactive defence now since JY took over..lowest league totals in sacks..ints..prob forced fumbles...id like to see stats for total team tackles for losses too...and in those yrs we have tanked 3 cups and got bounced out. But we will look at the film and fix it and guys will see what they did wrong..yup..sure

100 percent...and coaching who cant find an answer...or take too long to deviate from their original plan Last week was execution..guys not on same page and communication issues What's this week's excuse? Maybe osh will say i didnt prepare my team enough and maybe should of watched film on Edm and schemed to neutralize them as opposed to scouring film on last week and fix that on something that wasn't really effective there anyways..thats a neat plan maybe..or evaluate the roster and switch out some players.. maybe some others can "execute" ...there's a thought also...

The excuse as well that a part of team sucked in first half...but got better in 2nd half..only to collapse when it mattered in the end is a sappy excuse...or reasoning We come out time and time again unprepared and get in a hole..and shouldn't take half a game or more to figure it out...only to play a passive try not to lose scheme to close out...only to lose...this isnt an isolated thing...its a trend if not our identity...coaching fails us more than it helps us..and as @Mike said we shouldn't have to hope and plan that everything goes right to win a game. Look at Mace last game..just outside the other teams 40 yard line...3rd and 4...they go for it..and make it...osh would never...relying on his boner that Sergio has made long bomb kicks And same with roster..wasted spots...depth in areas we dont need it but bodies in basically the same one...LB doesn't translate to actual depth when several are no good in rotation and ones that are have to take a backseat to his favorite vets Then the offensive blunder...pokey goes down...basically handcuffed ourselves for rest of game...funny part us as fans said that if we incurred an injury we be kinda hooped...we see it but this apparent legend HC cant? Like reallyy?? And this kinda crap isnt isolated or an outlier rare thing.. its a consistent constant going on 4..5 yrs now...when is enough truly enough.. Non threatened vets who know poor play won't get them off roster..and so they play in almost self preservation mode and not in an attack mode or any attitude..too many nice fellas who pander to osh idea of ideal player...time to sign some badass guys...or let some here actually play as such...there is nobody on our defence that a player on another team is looking over their shoulder for...they roam freely in open space with no worry in the world and just make plays

Yeah looks like a good atmosphere..this broadcast pair is surely the C or D squad..Willson blows Suitor right out of the water.. Suitor offers nothing of any substance or value..basically just points out the obvious but no explanation of what he pointed out

Games and strategies..preparing change...Osh is oblivious to it

Haha...I tried...few listened

the repeated unpreparedness...and lack of fire...all on coaching...and it happens way too often...Once in a blue moon it happens...with theis crew of late the last several yrs...happens almost every other game The last 2..3 seasons of failure with basically the same reasons for it...should have been all the rope...Walter's maybe should have a bit more...he did have what seems like a good off-season...and pooching the coach may reveal he made bad choices in talent brought in and who he chose to keep....if nothing really changes with a new coach if he gets the pink slip this yr and it's apparent the talent just isnt being brought in...then after yr 2 make the GM purge happen...both together is just too much upheaval when it's not a certainty it was the issue

yup...but also some of the guys could have been good..hard to know as we clung onto old vets and marginal coaches favorites...I still stand on my opinion that Osh is a lousy evaluator of talent plain and simple...and the things he looks for and parlays to his scouting staff to find doesn't translate into elite players...maybe elite people and good guys...but you need more than good guys...and definitely need some thugs and just mean nasty guys...we have zero I not saying bad character guys before some get their panties in a twist...but some badass dudes....and a lot of times those dudes are great leaders and the team follows their way of playing...you can be badass and mean and still play within the rules I remember Ty Jones and to a lesser extent James WEST in warmups and before the game making a point of interacting and pissing off and dissing their opponents to th point they went right off their game trying to extract retribution and neglecting their assignments... and we feasted...

i think its entirely obvious actually I approve of this message lol

I like the jib of Miller as your HC...I think tho he heeds to go for it a bit more, but I sure will come with time...You guys in good hands there...I jealous yeah excelled off script...and with receivers who knew what to do when things broke down....he doesn't have the ability now to do that like he did consistently.... the vibe their coach gives off..the enthusiasm...the engagement with staff and players...it permeates their lineup...guys were goin balls to the wall and hard and fast We don't see that here...passive...playing not to lose...seemingly at times lost in lala land...not playing with any urgency cause they know if they suck...they will still start....we have issues and they not minor...hope we can turn it up...and turn it around Cause if we pull another dud next week in the Hammer....That Argo team and what I saw will likely beat us...cause they are gonna be getting better...we just stay the course and figure things will work out causse they did in 2019...2021

WAS gonna say..T,O has its version of Schoen....speaking of which....wouldnt be counting him out for a comeback late this yr...def next

U could be right