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It shouldn't be up to ZC anyway....it should be due to being healthy, as well as what @kelownabomberfan said performance. If feelongs are hurt than you shouldn't be playing pro sports and what kind of teammate does that make you pouting? I'd give Dru this game soley to really get him up to speed as well as to make certain ZC is 100 percent. If the following week ZC is deemed ready, put him back...but if he is just meh...or looking like previous season and a half ZC then a quick hook should be made...Tome for Osh to be a HC and not a buddy and wanna be liked...team first...not bias If Brown lights it up big time this weekend...why yank him the following game tho?...what's the harm in going with the hot hand, and it also allows ZC to totally heal...or at the least, remain healthy. Sure would look foolish if Brown balls out...rips off some wins...plays lights out and has offence playing in 5th gear, only to be benched to watch ZC come in...as offence sputters around in 3rd gear, and we lose ZC been here going into yr 6....Brown into yr 4...not like he some unknown newbie who hasn't been around a while...he's earned it as much as ZC has when you look at it

Not sure what you see Korn doing...he hasnt made a play or registered a stat yet...gets either blown off the line backwards or locked up and cant disengage Lawson tho has been stout and gets penetration and has made some plays, or had hand in a play being made The last 2 games we haven't been as chaotic in the substituting multiple guys every snap, so that has helped I think Agree that we could/should try Jenkins inside...he's powerful enough to fit there. And if thats not his niche we should be looking/bringin in some guys I think when Dixon is ready...with Lawson and Ceresna, WJ...Reese...Gatkouth thats 6 pretty versatile and interchangeable guys for multiple fronts, and hopefully Schemck heals sooner than later so we can bump Korn right outta town. But be ideal to find ourselves another true inside guy who can be effective and actually DA him and not waste that spot like we did last week...on a no snaps in game plug who offers zip on defence...no way he would have got a snap ahead of the other 7 LB's

You can be concussed with no head impact whatsoever... If your body is suddenly stopped with force...your brain doesn't stop, but slams into your skull with force and speed you were moving. Thats why the use of those foam helmet covers is pointless...unless you get a direct and sever head shot correct...or an actual head shot....momentum of brain moving inside skull and slamming around is the main culprit....a guy running and getting a totally clean shot to the chest with a shoulder, stopping him cold can get you concussed...even without head hitting turf when the guy hits the ground

its his noodle...his immediate reaction prone on the turf was not one of a neck issue...he was stunned Brown vs Ott....with a game under his belt...a week of prep/practice....gotta love it He is chill and mild mannered...but you damn well he is gonna be major revved up to make a statement...and you know his offensive teamates are gonna go that extra mile for him in that game I can see this being one of our better offensive outputs of the yr coming up...And I bet he gets major cheers from the Ott crowd while doing it just to stick it to Dinwiddie...those fans cant be happy

YEAH....Dixon and Woodbey will only make us better when ready, and you have to think when Schmeck is good to go that should be the last we see of Korn...Tho he isnt ideal and a huge impact guy....He serves a nice purpose and will have a role Clercius when back as well should bump Corc off the roster, and if we feel this urge to not use 3 imports, he will actually be a useful piece on offence and have an impact if used not just soley on the outside. If we continue that would like to see Matthew Jackson a bigger bodied DB brought on instead of the wasted choice of that LB we put on last week. I can see him fitting in nicely with what Younger is trying to do. And now is the time to test drive a couple of those PR guys to see what they offer...or of they dont offer much...remove and replace

I actually kinda liked what I saw...and the small shift in player usage...with I think more to come Smith is just getting better and basically played starters reps last game, so when Woodbey is available I can see it allowing us to likely bump Wilson off the roster....or at the least just a role as a DA...Dixon as well will upgrade Fletcher, who has gotten better but still is just adequate at best...we shouldn't settle for adequate Williams as well is really coming into his own and actually brings some actual physicality to the DB's....Still willing to give Nichols benefit of the doubt for now...Is he trying to do too much?...Or is he better suited now to come in at the role we use Kelly...which doesn't need to be a Canadian. Sure he had a better game last week but is still a huge liability out there and not needed. Kramdi too...he is more a liability than an asset...Don't care how smart they say he is...if he that smart let him coach then. To yank Griffin from SAM just to satisfy playing Kramdi would weaken us overall. Griffin has been one our best defenders consistently all yr. Pieces are there...some tweaking needs to be done tho but the defence will round out and be our backbone I think But we cant let Osh waste a valuable DA spot on a redundant player at LB who never saw the field last game...of all his bone headed moves, that one is right at the top...like wtf smarten the eff up.

true...but you can kinda know where you are at around then...if as an organization you are being realistic We wont trade him anyway, so its just interesting banter, and we may be trying to keep ahead of the Cats anyway for a crossover...so helping them...doesnt help us

agree as well...though we all have dame parts and pieces...some just have the unfortunate luck of getting the value pack version and others the premium package Browns one last yr from my knowledge was an MCL issue when tackled from behind/side...Other than that he really hasn't been a walking MASH unit...has he?...I dont really recall a lot of random stuff He's younger tho than ZC and will recover from the standard bumps/bruises/strains so that's on his side. I for one want us to keep both, and I'd roll with Brown until ZC is 100 percent, especially if he is performing well as it will only benefit us deeper in the season, and if that means we have a 100 percent, or close ZC when it realy matters...bonus for us But of we out of running, or we are looking at a cross over hope before the trade deadline...If we can get anything of value for ZC....i'd move him as this is his last yr and we get nothing once the final snap is over.

oh I know....was just be a kidder....that was more for others saying he was injury prone...and yeah some people just have trash genetics

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so...has Browns genetics been analyzed to make tha injury prone claim?...I kid...But yeah thats all a part of it...but also something you can not pre determie....as they say...**** happens No history in my family genes for joint and or ligament...tendon issues...Brother who played...several first cousins who were high level athletes....Nary an injury from any...I blew my knee apart 2x...separated a shoulder...Tore a labrum...broke hand 2x...broke bone in fore arm...4 known concussions...Had a molar knocked out...Just bad luck, and one injury was a poor choice by me in what I did...and paid for it Also....even tho football players are viewed as tough guys...some guys are just pusssies too....and are just mentally weak....that also factors in

I disagree...Injury prone is a myth....Maybe poor conditioned players are apt to get hurt more and have issues basically because they are poor at conditioning their body, but injuries are just a crap shoot....cant predict...and for most part for serious ones from contact sports...hard to prevent other than not playing....or just not getting involved How many times do you see an athlete with zero history of any injury have a non contact season/career ender outta nowhere...and more times than not its a athlete who is extremely fit and athletic...not the big ol brutes and slob looking guys...Its just bad luck....timing and circumstance Brown was pummled almost like how we ended Willy's career here...And his main injury was a mcl strain from being tackled oddly on a QB run..

Of all th new QB's the last 2..3 yrs Powell showed the most in limited time, and you could see from his games he knew what was going on...was cool and poised in pocket...could make all the throws...just needed reps...Kinda like how Dru looked with us after his 1st yr...Powell looked better actually his rookie yr Ford, thats not the ideal backup and his yrs now in league.....we seen his peak...not a smart move....Coulda had their Qb in waiting signed for same or similar money and be in a way better spot of they signed Ezequiel Powell...Thats his name correct? 😁 Desperate teams will make bad reades...or ones they would have gave less if circumstances were different....If they are really tanking and its cause they dont have a legit vet QB...Anything can happen....I'd start Dru this week too even if ZC was close...to see if the one game wasnt an abberation and if he just works here as a legit QB1....I have zero doubts in him just from the eye test last week watching him pre snap...then navigate the pocket and the ease and confidence in his throws....and his general calm demeanor ZC in same system looks almost always panicked and rushed....and at times his throws are from real bad mechanics and set up...cause he more worried about getting ball away in self preservation than letting things really develop

Filthy rich..or stinky stanky rich..there's 2 tiers haha

Nobody is injury prone..its just bad luck for most part...or playing recklessly...or being hung out to dry and pummeled.. body can only take so much Only thing that becomes an "injury prone" thing is head injuries.. they are culminating to the system and every one u get..u never fully get back to 100 percent ZC is prime example now ever since the edm game..he was lucky his time here not getting rocked until then...ever since has not been the same..and has gone out now multiple times since..and the whole while he has looked in decline..bad decisions...panicky in the pocket..slower processing leading to picks and poor throws...awkwardness in some of his footwork and launch points.. He was fine until that game basically..but since its been obvious

and he has been pretty disruptive and created way more pressures this yr, a thing to note as well...knockdowns are not as prevalent, but that's also because he doesn't have to jab step...then drop back looking for it...he's actually allowed to play DE Adding Reese tho been huge....he has to take a lot of attention from olines and is getting better each game, so it's freeing guys up from being doubled up on...Dude is lightning fast Speaking of which...on the Hick's run right after the Pokey fumble...Smith came from the opposite side of center after Jones lost contain and was beat wide and tracked him down from behind to make the tackle....and Hicks isnt a slow back....Great recognition and flow/angle to ball carrier...blew right by Jones to make tackle...Kid should be the fulltime WIL Another of my favs from that game...on the MCI run in the 2nd quarter...BO lead blocking and knocking the snot outta the DB...I wanna see that play too called more often with MCI with speed around the edge...one lil seam and he's busting big yards, and with his power anyway will 9 times outta 10 be positive yardage

mentioned this in another post....he is a lb...we have a glut already and wouldn't take a snap ahead of any of the other7...he wouldn't...or shall i say shouldn't have replaced one of the teamers as that group has been solid all yr...that would be just...dumb...so yup we wasted a DA on a guy who didnt even need to lace up his shoe's....where we could have added yes...a WR who would actually garner attention and be a threat...a DB for depth and maybe take reps away from Kelly, Kramdi...Jenkins also would have added more value as he was already on ST's so yanking him they had to replace his spot....Coulda even just left MAZZ on roster as a road grader on jumbo/short yardage... But nope...just another in the long list of dumbass roster moves from Smuggsy cost us at minimum 2 cups

nor do I...

If Ham offered us McManus and a pick for ZC...Straight up...would you roll with Dru and TE/Perkins....fearing an injury is no way to plan your roster and your season and nexts trajectory...I would make that trade....Thank ZC for all he did...and be done with it...Business is business and it's a cruel world this pro sports Just look at it this way...if say a team in T.O or Hamilton offered ZC a boatload of money before we re-upped him and held us for ransom with that number..and we couldn't match...You think all the warm fuzzy feelings of the past seasons would sway him to stay....doubt it....so if you can get assets for him, and have a starter behind him you take that shot You cant use the what if excuse with injury...it happens...T.O beat us with a backup in Arbuckle...cause he had a good team around him and solid coaching...Christ we also lost to the Faj....and again a loss to T.O with the Pest as a raw rookie after Dimwut yanked useless MBT...and again due to out coached and a good..."healthy" cast around them

Yup...but......when has that stopped osh playing a guy not healthy..actually shouldn't even be on field? Elsbury isnt good enough and a difference maker to be taking a import away from roster elsewhere that would benefit us

Case in point with holes..needing to be filled..this how brain dead osh is We yanked a import olineman..one who took spot of an american who was taking reps in rotation...and replaced said lineman with a guy newest on team at a position we already overloaded with. His only role would be on ST but he didnt supplant any guy on special teams..a unit of which has been really good and yanking a guy would been pointless..and to be honest dumb. So we DA'd a extra lb which we didnt need..never recorded a stat of any kind and I watched game 2x and never saw him take a snap..so dressed just for the sake of what? Where we could have used a wr..which would have helped the offence..Put Jenkins back and see if he got the message..he'd have more impact than Korns meaningless snaps..and wouldn't have stood on sidelines all game...a db could have been added.. used in a kelly role..and be backup if one went down so we didnt have to double duty Vaval..wouldnt be an issue if we dressed earlier mentioned wr Singer...heck even could have left Mazz on and utilize him in jumbo/short yardage..and as depth as well...but nope...Osh does the pointless..most useless roster move possible...basically stupidest..and sadly thats not a shock Someone here explain to me the thought process that went into that move and the benefits of it....good luck Osh is just a tool more often than not

If we scuffling near end of yr..not in playoff race and have a chance to substantially upgrade our team witj a deal...only a fool wouldn't take that opportunity...thats the brutal reality of sports.. But...if we in thick of it...ZC is healthy and eff3ctive...Brown is ensconced as #2 and is getting reps here and there and keeping sharp...we would be a fool to trade him It all depends on the trajectory of the season..and if he did land in the Hammer...and BLM is done..or questionable in 2027..maybe ZC decides he has a yr or 2 more in him being close to his wife's home

You can't base anything on that..osh had repeatedly played players he likes over more talented...or more useful players..that opinion he couldnt beat out kolo doesn't hold weight We let him go..went to the hammer where they had a center opening..he was not "given" the job but was beat out by a converted guard...says alot

Bryant is def not waht he was...Pretty sure we wont see anyone like that again That being said last night he wasnt that bad...every guy gets beat, and I willing to give him until Labour day to see if he just took a lil longer to get back to 80% Stan... I still think that if we shifted Broxton to LT...slid Stan inside and for now tried either Elsbury (who has played tackle) or Vpool at rt and Eli at center would give us a real good brawling oline. Elsbury has been decent in parts of his game....but man last night he had a ton of poor snaps...like consistent low and off center...thats a good way to get someone injured in the backfield...not to mention mess up the timing which we saw. Eli's game at center after the first series where communication with him and Ellsbury seemed off was just fine....We be no worse off with him at center...christ we rolled out Kolo for 4 yrs and he was worst in league I think Stan has it in his head he needs to bounce outta his stance quicker than before now and he is not set in his solid stance cause if it...so it's easier get juked...He's still solid in the short yardage and jumbo, and you still see him up field in runs doing food work...a move inside would do both him and the team a solid Hopefully we see at least Cline show up here at some point after labour day, or even better Manu...Imagine if both do...damn...You could almost instantly have 4 nationals on the oline again with Broxton anchoring LT

Yeah considering he hadn't taken a real game snap since Oct 3rd of 2025...had none in TC this yr and 1 practice with us, pretty encouraging what he did....now imagine how he should look when he in full mode. You could see his pre-snap reads were bang on and knew where he needed to put the ball, and got it there as fast as we have seen in yrs with a Winnipeg offence. He also navigates the pocket real well, and I forgot how quick his footwork is when he see's/senses the pressure and relocates himself to a safer spot and still gets himself set up in a real good throwing base/platform and delivers the ball with a tight spiral....ZC cant do that anymore and when he does ot looks all nectic and he is more times than not throwing a pass in a less than Ideal setup...Hence his increase in picks the past 3 yrs Dru's pick yesterday...I bet 2 or 3 games into his tenure here he makes the TD pass there when he knows his receiver's better and likely would have dropped that backside shoulder where only the receiver has a chance for it. But all things considered that is the sharpest and most fluid tempo offence we have run in long time, and was a perfect scheme for his first game with literally zero reps other than glorified skely ince this week We don't need to rush ZC back, and Dru should get the start next week, to really iron out the rust, plus he has seen the Ott defence all yr up until his release and even tho he is as chill as chill can be...You gotta know he will be chomping at the bit to lay a whoopin on Dinwiddie and crew to show they effed up Amazing part of that last night we didnt even use the run game to open things up for him...he was just hitting his spots as they had it drawn up Once ZC is healthy and back, tough choice for Osh...I know everyone and their dog wants to hype TE but Perkins has earned that SY job...and is pretty much automatic, and as we saw last night when the oline is having an off day and not blowing up the line...he can power his way to the 1st down even when hit right at, the line....and you know he is gonna bust a huge run here sooner than later... Dropping Perkins soley for they hype is the wrong move. TE will develop just as much as the reserve guy watching and learning as he would standing on the sideline, running a sneak here and there Dave quadruple asterisks....hell of a qb hahaha