Booch

as is Baileys and Woli's

Eventually tho....guys wanna play....and are not happy not yup...he is the problem ya buts and all not shocked...expected this same ol same ol lineup and the addition of another redundant ST only guy...ho will get minimal reps at that...not even the best ST option , and not see the light of day for any defensive reps....and if he does boy are we in trouble and severely hemorrhaging in legit talent Opportunity to add a couple guys if for anything just to gauge what the difference is...and we fail again...cause basically Osh is brain dead and wants to seem like he the wisest guy in the league and plays his bias over talent or best roster WE have had more poor/questionable games this yr really than good ones...yet we roll status quo....pathetic I hate to say this as I never widh on us losing but I hope we get tight spanked again...and next week too....only way we gonna see changes...brutal all around his rope doesnt deserve to be long anymore...he has used up his past good will wih success...years agi....from Manageent...he should have zero rope

yup.....if we go 3 national olineman we only need 1 guy any given snap on defence

Loony toonz does throw a good ball tho all things considered

Service fee if anything

Yeah and was in my fantasy lol

Scheme was more part of that...Griffin has been solid as can be for 2 yrs...u gonna use 1 game where whole defence looked like garbage and call a guy being owned? There is a ratio?? Wow....news flash...good thing you post here as nobody would be privy to that insider tidbit...phew He could start for Bridges...Kramdi...Parker..and shift Parker....very easily...so no issue there And now you make a claim a guy is dumb as rocks? Based on? Maybe our coaching staff is too...from lot what we seen of late that's not a stretch

Does ZC make that play...not anymore...Likely sacked...or rushes a pic

Sign of a smart coach...doing whats best for the "team"

If I was Jones id not agree to be "hurt" so we would have to either roster him...ask him to join PR (which i sure he'd say no thanks to)...or just release him...cause I sure he wants to play but also not be a distraction talking bout it here. He'd be picked up in a heartbeat and in some teams lineup immediately....

and we didnt sign Richards because??...former 1st overall...with starter experience...I sure he wouldnt hurt our depth guess they tired of getting none answers and Osh's typical b.s.....so why bother?? I hopefor a win....always do...expecting a loss tho in this....and prob 1...if not 2stupid roster moves, when we have the opportunity to actually add some guys who could give us a spark/lift....maybe Osh will wow us with his roster....not!!

could be argued the entire defence

yup...and now is this directed to him to do?...if not a free lane to play contain...and look for the knockdown and rely on this scheme of us having 25 db types out there?...most times playing way too soft and passive aggressive?....I think it more that...Just look at the Grey Cup...he was basically free'd up to pay traditional end and had best game of his life....that ability is there but obviously something we are trying to do is just not translating for our ends...End is one the easiest roles to fill in CFL ....and some his frustration penalties this yr is I bet a direct result of...his frustration with how we are doing things....WJ isnt a selfish idiot....and he isnt in athletic decline, or lacks technical skills...Thats reserved for several other of the dead weight we carry but poor on retention...and those guys came from other scouting networks we no longer employ...Sadly there was a buttload of free agent dline guys we could have targeted this off-seson in FA but shoose not to, cause we had Jake..Korn..Schmeck...so we good....another short sighted move of brain deadness....didnt even try to get better...status quo cause we won a cup in 2019 and 2021...eons ago

yup...tho stats dont tell the whole story on the dline Garbutt with 9 tackles and 1 sac...Fox with 9 tackles and no sacs.....is better than Thomas with 2 tackles...zero sacks....and just awful play...Korn with 3 tackles...zero sacks....WJ with 8 tackles...1 sac..Adams with 5 tackles and 1 sac ...Vaughter has 13...no sacs and does get a lot of heat and disruption at times....but justifying their release as "dont do squat" doesn't compute.....Both guys in Hammer are disruptive and get pressures too...and are in a rotation...legit one so likely less snaps too They also both have motors and from what I see when watching don't take plays off.....to say we better without them is foolish...and even tho Woli is hurt....wasnt going into camp so not like we let him go cause we knew something...we didnt....but his smarts...and trust with ZC would be a lot better roster option than Corcorran....Novack..Korn and even Thomas and could have been that super sub on offence who knows all the positions and would provide leadership (which we lacking) and grit...and not like we would have had to break bank to keep him either...he would have stayed on his current deal he had...another brain dead stupid move...who was the main voice behind it who knows...but was dumb none the less Our failures and issues we incurring are all self inflicted...anyone thinking or saying opposite isnt paying attention...or just plain has no clue

along wiyh the rest of the line...for several yrs....scheme ...coaching and supporting cast perhaps....and it is very easy to neutralize and scheme away from players on a dline when they have have inferior guys playing on it....A guys lack of production isnt necessarily related to ability....but scheme and play call....where we seem to really suck....compounded by half the dline rotation basically sucking....and not just this year...since we punted away Jeffcoat and never replaced our last true interior guys....and or refuse to give who we brought in majority of reps to actually get acclimated...in a groove and feet under them...we continually stagnate and prevent player development here...and not just on dline

Walters tho basically does draft work.. he not out bird dogging...but also we will never know if anyone is better cause they don't get played either...so who knows...and 4 reps in a game won't help...or languishing at practice time...practice now does nothing to earn a spot...not how they ran now We caught in a chicken and egg thing here....is it inadequate scouting and management...or is it poor coaching? Do you upset the apple cart by purging g.m...with it all scouting and support and risk having the front end and financial aspects go way down hill...only to find out the same things occur at team level? And truthfully that's what would happen Or do u do as what historically most teams do and work at player level or coach first...purge the guys who havnt gotten it done for yrs now and keep the younger upside and actually useful vets...or remove the HC who has been at the helm and created the game day roster...philosophies...etc? Generally the second scenario is the smarter and right one...and where we should be looking regardless of the yeah buts. The only yeah buts that matter is the 3 recent flops...and 3 consecutive seasons of cracks...eroding play...coaching...talent..and reluctance to do anything about it at the on field level Also...good luck getting a new G.M worth piss to come here if u handcuff him and say job is yours...but u have to keep everything as is below u...being coaches...players...game philosophies...not gonna happen and welcome to shitsville again if u do that...they gonna want their own people... If change is needed and gonna happen...and it definitely needs to be...its gonna and gotta be at the coaching...and player level first True...very true...and even then it was because there was an actual open job available...he didnt push out a vet or tenured player When is the last time with this staff have we had a T.C cut where we sent a vet who been here a while packing for a new guy? Where fans were wow? Happens a lot elsewhere...but I'll tell u how many times here....zero...that i can think of of any relevance

yeah....putting him back in after it was put back in place...who effin does that?

Even since last yr Griffin should have been the actual starter in possibly 2 positions...if not 3.....but he gets relegated to rotation behind the teacher's pets/choices....

ALSO...WE dont need Korn or Thomas on roster...thats also the issue....wasted roster spots..Lawson is fine...Kramdi can y=take reps...and hey here's a thought...start integrating Shay and Smith for reps too....cant develop with no play....but that makes sense......

Lawler would have stayed...Ford would have and not for the dumb money Edm offered....Hardrick yeah but he was sucking here...so Walters made right move there...Garbut and Fox would offer mote than who took their spots...which is....nobody Scheme and ideology play a large part on the suckage...or apparent suckage we see...especially on a dline.....I not sure who the growing tired crowd were with Fox and Garbutt....if people dont see our depth is gutted...some of our apparent "frontline" starters are garbage and guys who have a lot of potential...youth...athleticism are not used so we will never know....and it's on Osh....Not Walters then you are truly blind and yeah...in the nutsac hanging club. And the fact we have defaut starters set in stone before camp even starts is an issue...as is the fact we don't even consider replacing some whether it be via draft...FA...Scouting or trdae is also another...Sure Walter's is the G.M....But only a fool would believe that Osh gets way too much say in who we retain....who we target...and who gets on roster....and that too has to change or the 2 cup wins 5 yrs ago now will be 10...15 in a heartbeat....getting there and flopping is not a success....and we gonna be in a fight for 3rd as it's going now...and all avoidable yeah...totally agree with your first part...without a doubt....but also players were brought in...and we continue to cling to no good anymore vets...ST only slugs who offer nothing other than that...and poor allocation of assets on the PR....Thats not on Walters...Walters doesn't pick the final roster...Osh does....and then when things arent working...we never deviate......Thats the issue.....can't say guys the scouts brought in are not good when they dont get the chance to show....right? And when you see game and game again of guys who clearly are not prime anymore...but still trot em out there....well...we get more and more of what we saw last 2 games...again...Thats the HC...

yeah....4 reps.....is a real indicator..cmon man you better than that....especially when they all space out...dline guys need to get consistant and steady reps to get in game groove....Walters didnt cut...or not roster guys...blame Walters all you want but he has minimal impact on the game day doings....none actually Get off Osh's nutsac...we know you are pro Osh but he the problem more than anyone else....and as much as upi dont wanna admit it a lot of defections are not just for money.....it's the way they used here...or better yet...not

Or what Lawler and Woli gave on scrambles...that's huge...3 guys who feasted on that gone and not replaced Demski can only do so much and teams will sit on him to bait ZC...we already have seen a ton of that last 2 yrs Clercius is learning but it's on the fly so hes gonna have hiccups...like the Pick at goaline And as we have nobody else who offers any threat it's pretty easy to take Wheatfall away as hes still learning on the fly too We are pretty handcuffed on offence...self imposed too...a guy who could help us is Mitchell as he knows where to go...sit down...recognizes when to break off a route but we using this excuse he isnt good inside..well time to coach players and scheme things to have things work...you can catch...get open...run...a pro team will find your spot...and if they can't then there is big issues 11 yrs...long time..things get stale and stop working...especially when you don't wanna believe it and change how you go about your business...after the last 2 losses there should be multiple changes..maybe a shift in who's getting reps too...and almost dumbing things down in some regards to perfect it...then install more...we are our own worst enemies...we being coaching and management

Same thoughts...lack of depth and retention is on HC....Guys wont wanna stay...and its happened....recruitment has been fine but when none get a chance it's easy to lay blame on the G.M....We had a scout leave us for this very reason Cant say next guy is up is better....but how would you know....not know when the HC refuses to play them....and we had way better athletes and players in camp we got rid of....some buried on PR/IR and people can argue the point all they want that they must not be soley cause Dear Leader hasn't rostered them....and thats just false...I strongly feel his eye for talent is poor, and if guys like Thomsd...Korn...Kolo...Schmeck...Kramdi...TJones...Bridges..Sterns....Case....Punter...lesser extent Wilson....Hallett....Gauthier...is what he feels is top notch then yeah sadly we in a very bad spot and it's all Osh as at end of day he decides the roster....and puts the guys out there.... Same with game day decisions...player sets...play calls...etc.......who do you think has 80% control of that...HC....Why you think he has his play card he is constantly looking at....referring to....reading off of as he covers his yap with it so not to be lip read.....he's dictating who/what he wants out there for most part...dependant on time...down/distance.....situ.....and his coord will try to best facilitate it....If people here think he is not controlling any of that in-game you are sadly wrong....thats not how it goes...Co-ord may put his defensive system together for most part....but it's for the HC to use........fact

both those moves make total sense....even give Vibert a game as the 7th oline and use on Jumbo...Short yardage....Christ hate to even say it but Scmeck would make more sense/use as he does well on short yardage push and give him some reps ahead of Jake.....if he shows he still hasn't got much then let him go and fill that PR spot with someone else If Vaval cant go....curious how Osh will use that extra DA spot....or how he will waste it....Does Mitchel get a chance to show anything....Is this J.Jones chance to get on and hopefully show he should never come off? Maybe we will just play a guy short like last yr when we had a guy slapped on the roster as a GTD and brought nobody else...just in case, and just in case happened but we didnt bring anyone....another excellent roster management/coaching blunder that is likely forgotten here by most...seeing as there are so many piling up

it's been suffering for 2 seasons...and 2 main reasons....QB....scheme/gameplan and lack of any adjustments and now factor in personnel for reason 3