Booch

Maybe Osh renegotiated a revised deal to keep the band together, following the lead of some his vets??...lol.....would be the ultimate show of the culture here and who leads by example....no???

we need to insert Eli...Dobson, and let Gray be the 6th....Holm to safety and we need physical/man to man type HB/CB's to replace him and compete against incumbents at corner...Need to move on from Biggie as a starter, but a role player if cap allows. Get Ford signed and have him play SAM...and if roster allows it have BA as a DA and he can slot in all over the defence back 8...save for MLB...and make either Bennett or Kongbo our FA priority Jackson cannot eat up a valuable DA spot....and if we have a stud to go with the Jeff's that more than adequate..that be exceptional...Need a dominant nose....and this draft year after 1st pick draft guys with ability to take on more a role, and sign/trade/draft a Canadian punter and have 2 Globals to be used in rotation and on teams. I totally fine with offence if all the pieces are back, but competition needs to be brought, and ZC needs to be on a short leash and if he sucking...pulled even if for just a few series to see what he might not be seeing while behind center... That isnt much a turn over and would allow us to run it back with a solid amount of the core guys who are still top notch

Rose's play overall was better than Houston's....and yeah the Jeff's could have used some rotational help and it would have been very beneficial. Fox alone would have had a presence in the middle and a push that woud have allowed just that bit of needed heat that would have took the Faj's quick timing plays and made them hard to execute. Also I don't think Houston can play up on line and have the skill/experience to disrupt quick passing, let alone consistently tackle..Rose can...also i highly doubt he would have got roasted by that winning td...he has seen that play hundreds of times and would have recognized it immediately, and that would have been difference in breaking it up...if not stepping in front of it... Coaches and players have said...Rose is the calming influence out there and basically another coach...he would have been a huge factor all game over Houston...Blinded by the shiny pics our Coach was

yup...and they better overpay the cap if need be...Dont pull a Riders hahaha

yeah I was shooting very high end salary...and if a team makes tht offer in the tamper period..they have to abide by it if we dont match or beat...so that would be playing russian roulette if someone tried that... if he goes...he goes...we be fine...also cant see a first time HC taking on the dual role either...that would be suicide...especially with that mess

key in bold And yeah...our teamers and back-ups for most part were/are awful or non existant...thats the whole point...humg on to way too many for no reason other than been here thank you...some people just cant see the forest thru the trees....its a major issue right now with this teams makeup

It all started with Wade...he was the guy who turned the switch on...when he looked at things, and saw the way things were being done he was pretty livid...and embarrased.... BO wont get much more than 185...maybe 205k here in Canada....hardly debilitating

all 3 got 2 yrs

Glass was a garbage pick up....Lawrence was hurt, and still here...and likely a better option than Houston..Couture left cause we couldnt afford him...and was replaced by Kolo...who was a down grade, and should have been behind Eli..Taylor blew out an achilles...or he would have been back....Rose should not have been parked....I'd say the same for Darby too really....Charles Nelson??...Like really??...Mike Jones also left for more money....not like we wanted to move on...Adams should have been kept but we signed a broken down Ellingson...who was a band aid and did absolutely nothing come playoffs.... Too long guys..Thomas....Briggs....couple guys who languished on PR and never saw light of day....couple still there...and no not talking about Richmond....Why was Scmeckle kept....even Bennett.....offer us nothing....and it's not just aging vets....a vet who serves no purpose other than teams and not a viable backup....what competition was brought in to challenge Jake, Walker....Lawson.....Tanner Schmeckle...or whatever his name is??...puke.....who was brought in to push Biggie and be succesion plan...and be on a PR to develop?...nobody....who was brought in to push Wilson and develop as he wasnt even ready to start season?....nobody....but we rolled out inadequate Briggs and heavy doses of even ore inadequate Thomas....and only viable guy we had to back that up was Schmeckle??....like wtf Clements and Cole...both good solid contributors and hopefully starting next yr over what we have now....but look how long it took us to finally realize Cole was a player??? We carried no viable DA end basically all yr...why?...had 2 on PR...but never saw roster....why?.....Why didnt we bring in a viable return guy when our return game was worse I ever seen in over decade? You tell me....where was the backup plan on the PR....Maybe Schmeckle tries hard doing at in practice.....We cut an actual real fullback...who actually had impact on special teams....and was canadian and would have helped the roster....why?....why didnt the powers that be not see a canadian in that role would be far superior as we could roster another import end..dt...db?...do you seriously think that was best use of roster? Whole lotta why's and head scratchers.... Most guys we moved on from last few yrs were guys who left for NFL....Left in free agency, or were hurt When Kongbo came back the second time last yr we lost him cause we had no cap space...I dunno call me dumb but I would cut Thomas right there and there is a good portion of what would have been needed....as he was already on a serious downtrend and definitely not the future....Thats the tough decisions that need to be made as opposed to making with your heart....and it's not being done here Harris basically checked out here on his own...and slotting him ahead of BO would have been totally idiotic....

Taylor was injured so they really had no choice....35 yr old vet coming off an achilles injury I would hope they moved on from...especially when he wouldnt be ready for the season..And really I would have kept Darvin over Ellingson...He offered tons to the team in many capacities, and could have been a valuable contributor in playoffs

thing is a lot of those guys were young...went to NFL...(Alford...Ford..Kongbo..Desjarlais)...or went and signed back elsewhere...or guys who got injured (Maston...Taylor) so that was not done purposefully...had no choice. In last 2.....3 years what player did we move on from and replaced with a younger...better player who lost his job in TC?....I can think of.........none He said none of the guys in 30+ range showed signs/reasons to be replaced....sure he said changes, but those will be the ones out of his control...NFL opp....Can't afford...but part of that can't afford will be holding on to higher priced vets who really have no place here now contribution wise as a starter, or are teams only guys....twist it all you wnt...but he refuses to accept the idea of being a Bouno..Murphy...Mathews...and will fall on his sword like a Ritchie...and thats a huge Osh flaw...for all his good traits...he has a real bad not good trait

there was none...we had unearthed some....but they were cast away....or stuck on a PR ....and I see zero evidence of it....he could have said in his presser that we will look at the roster and see where we may need to go younger, or move on from...totally acceptable and many coaches before him and after him have said that...or will say it....but he flat out in his Mike Oshea way said there are none....and thats worrisome...especially when some carry significant salaries that will impact re-signing some of our younger talent, or getting a key piece in FA Hopefully Walters and the assistants take that ability away from him....and allocate the dollars elsewhere....

25...but we also have some no-contributers that are new and need to be expunged too....Thats a lot of non-turnover from 5 yrs ago...continuity is good when you dont continue with some too long...we have/had too many continued guys from same time line....need to know when and where to spread it out...and last 2 yrs we havnt at all....and when we did have some guys who could have...should have stepped in...they were blocked by sub par tenured coach's favorites....and thats not a good thing....

Players stay or a bunch of reasons...but generally its team environment/culture...how upper management treats them, and just not on the field, and for their brothers.........I not afraid of a player chasing a coach somewhere.....If we had a team of Merc's sure...but we dont Many of you also think it's just Osh as to why they stay/like it here...and it's not...Starts with Miller and how these guys are treated here, and their families accommodated for....

u just dont get it....and last 2 grey cup failures had a similar feel to them...and that's smack dab due to this philosophy...it worked in 2019..2012....going on 4 and 5 yrs now....you don't evolve and adapt...u fall by the wayside...If you think giving guys like Thomas..Briggs...Jackson...McRea...Bennett...Kolo..Gauthier..Miller...Cadlawader...Schmeckle..Biggie roster spots "just because" you like em, and they been good soldiers, or bring in competition but don't actually 100 percent let them earn a spot....bring back some PR guys we have had kicking around for yrs, but never can push a non-performing vet off the roster....and draft a bunch of Ham and Eggers whose sole purpose is only teams...then I dont know what to tell you....and that would be an epic failure of an off-season of ...well epic proportions. Especially when you have younger, high end talent waiting there....with no hope in hell of getting a shot...and they know it....so kiss your talent goodbye. Fact many don't know is we almost lost Woli due to this, and the lack of use a few yrs back....And it surprised me he actually re-signed. I can see it with others tho now, as things have changed, and we lost 2 straight cups and some of it was due to roster issues....I dont give a crap with the "yeah buts"..."we been to 4"...yap yap yap...means diddly if you don't win the last game of the year....and we should have been reveling in 4 straight wins right now.....but we aren't

yup...ease on outta there and focus on 2024 and Grey Cup 2025 in our barn with us in it...Next season and the minor turn over required and some change in roster limitations will go a long way in ensuring we are in that game

I would hope....and also the Gm and his Asst. Gm's should have a very detailed performance evaluation on guys as well....and that factors into the dead weight slicing and dicing....and not even give Osh the chance to roster aging and useless players....cause we all know he will if they are there for the taking

I really don't like the comments Oshea made in his season ending presser....how he thinks some his vets are still more than capable and sees no reason to move on from some...Big Red Flag in my eyes...and not a good forshadowing for 2024 at all...as it puts team even further behind in reloading and re-tooling for 2025 Either he's really playing sneaky buggers and not letting on...or he is as clueless and stubborn as many suspect, and still playing the favorites and favoring his guys....and I lean to the latter....if we go thru this same bs at start of season I hope Walters has it in him to play the heavy and be Osh's boss!

I dont....I have no concerns with any key guy following a coach anywhere...Nobody did with Lapo...and nobody will here either bROWN won't be going there...They have Harris under contract, for big coin, and what new HC is gonna roll the dice and hope an upstart isn't just a benefactor of the environment and team he is with?...They are gonna want a experienced QB and thankfully they have Harris and likely keep him, cause he is garbage and not the future there...so this song and dance is gonna continue there...for a few more years...and as mentioned BO is here...or nowhere.....thats if the NFL things doesnt pan out....and I'd be shocked if it panned out cap is tight league wide...and lots of teams are not happy about it....only gonna be minimal lateral movement, and this is playing right into what league and governors wanted....consistency and tenure in coaching staffs

Only way I see Buck accepting the Sask gig is that he leaves family put here, and family is ok with that...lot of a big if there, and I also think he is smart enough to not grab a position where it could be an utter tire fire still for likely a few yrs...and possibly ruining any chance again down the road elsewhere ....Like what is currently happening to Dyce in Ottawa and Lapo there before him....Sask has a lot...like a lot of work to do to turn that around...total roster overhaul....will be an all new coachig staff most likely as any new guy likely doesn't want the crap that was there. A new HC dropped in there is not gonna turn that around any time soon...Plus there is still the Oday factor....that guy is prob the worst GM in the league I not too concerned tho about replacing a OC if we have to, there is a few options in-house, as well as quality guys we could either poach with an upgrade to title/pay and a few who are currently employed...You have to remember playbook stays here....sure Buck can take his philosophies and ideas with him, but thats nature of game anyway. I want an OC with the right mindset, and thought process....the plays themselves are irrelevant in grand scheme as all teams run same stuff with wrinkles to suit the players they have, and the mindset of the HC and the Oc

how that turn out??..lol what I meant tho...he can want a guy..sure.....guys also have to want to go....not a given

yup...all ado about nothing right now....some deals are already in the books...have been a while

well....8...Biggie and Schoen for sure...But Bailey and Demski were far far from being effective and able to run all the plays...we hand-cuffed our selves big time...Then factor in the uselesness of Jackson....Omitting Rose off the roster....Bennett who hardly saw field..Thomas...Thats 8 of your 46 who were handicapping us...Thats messed up anyway u slice and dice it

A guy leaving one place just cant take dudes with him...not how that works.....

A Strev Brown combo would work real well actually....pay em both 300k...with start bonuses...and a few incentives.....Sign a rookie entry level guy for the 3rd string spot...would be a net savings overall.....And I'd run multiple combos and sets all game with both on the field at once...Strev in back field...TE...run option with both them....could really create a lot of havoc....Get in his ear now about a contract....and if you get it done you send ZC to the Hammer for their Bennett (or at least the rights to deal with him before FA)...Toss in Erlington an a pick an we forge on